Vestal
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I think the real question is to what degree?
Charlie Kirk assassinated at Utah campus event
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If I was a politician I'd do whatever I could to make the economic future for gen z and millennials as bright and stable as possible otherwise shit will get messy.
If, after they pass away, the boomers and gen x wealth get absorbed by the 1% and corporations via tax cuts and asset acquisition, things are gonna get really really bad.
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HeisenbergFX4
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"A rifle behind every blade of grass"I think the real question is to what degree?
Really spoken or not it was true then and even more true now
12Goblins
Thinks Sydney Sweeney is a man
I think the real question is to what degree?
and the mujahideen have mastered gorilla warfare, they were born in it, and look how it went for them..
I think you underestimate modern military equipment
Vestal
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My questions was to the degree of help said weapons gives a person against the Government.
kevboard
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I think the real question is to what degree?
you'll get killed faster.
not sure if that counts as "help"
Don't the Taliban currently control Afghanistan?
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kevboard
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Don't the Taliban currently control Afghanistan?
yes, because the US packed in and let them take over without any resistance.
Over 20 years of no resistance.
12Goblins
Thinks Sydney Sweeney is a man
i mean we could have stayed there and kept killing them if we wantedDon't the Taliban currently control Afghanistan?
Flash Junkins
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This
Gexxy1
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You're looking at it from an individual's pov instead of the group.
Yeah, the army has tanks, rocket launchers and planes. Their capability of killing is a lot higher. But they are also around 1.2 million in total personnel. Their ability to conquer 200-300 million armed citizens is extremely difficult, even if said citizens were only armed with rifles and pistols.
crazepharmacist
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Lol that's my point though.does anyone really think your guns are going to help you against a tyrannical government? I feel like most people agree guns are mostly for personal/home protection at this point. Not sure what your guns are going to do when they drone strike ur house :<
it's gona be these things going door to door
god help us
If Trump didn't turn his head 1 inch to the left…
Guns are effective for that purpose.
Trump isn't a dictator though. Just to clarify.
calico
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Multiple antifa-aligned messages on the bullet casings is Olympic levels of mental gymnastics? It seems like a clear link or at least a political alignment with the group.
Every time you pop up in this thread I'm not really sure what point you are getting at. What do you mean by 'ever since the guy was shown'? He looks like basically every other sniper-style attacker in American history: a white male.
ResurrectedContrarian
Suffers with mild autism
Have you paid any attention at all in past 24-36 hours?
This is a trans ideological killing, and certainly antifa-adjacent. Confirmation of his trans boyfriend (officially confirmed now, by the way) has blown this up, and all their furry/trans/leftist group account memberships online are exposed. The only question is how many others in his circle may have had knowledge he was going to do it.
Flash Junkins
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Agreed 100%
calico
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Enough to make the state consider whether it's really worth doing the thing they are considering doing that would make the citizenry take up their arms and use them.I think the real question is to what degree?
The primary value is as a deterrent against the temptation to become tyrannical. That's not so tempting for the state if 'winning' still means ending up in a worse position than it started.
MidGenRefresh
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Darkmakaimura
Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
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Israel / the "Jooooooz"
Transgender people
I guess we'll never run out of scapegoats.
Singular7
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That is actually powerful.. say he's crazy for those views on reality about the universe being created etc etc, but at least its just a human talking to a human.
I never really watched the guy, appreciate the insight into his character.
ResurrectedContrarian
Suffers with mild autism
one of these things is not like the others
Singular7
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I hope we never need to deal with this... but what an interesting topic both from a "game theory" and human history perspective.
1) the American continent 'natives' were destroyed by superior weapons
2) the Iraqis for all intents did hold off the strongest military ever created
Point?
Superior weaponry is not a guarantee of a win. E.G. IF the US military goes crazy and starts using drones to wipe US citizens out, its definitely not guaranteed that they win.....
So an argument against the 2nd amendment that "the government has better weapons" doesn't matter doesn't fully translate.
I'll tell you that me and the neighbors in my cul-de-sac are more heavily armed than 90% of Europe's governments... LOL
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This isn't really doxing, these folks put this stuff on social media themselves. With their pictures. And their names. Often with their job.
Doxxing is taking a post from a forum like this and sleuthing out who they are.
From the site:
This is not a doxxing website.
This website is a lawful data aggregator of publicly-available information. It has been created for the purposes of public education.
We seek to collect and archive instances of individuals promoting or glorifying of political violence, much like archive.org or archive.is. We firmly denounce all political violence and criminal activity.
We do not publish data.
Our thoughts and prayers are with Charlie Kirk's family.
Unknown Soldier
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Honestly I care about this less than I care about how the universities are trying to protect the professors who brainwashed them to be like this
The saga at Clemson is just one example of that
StueyDuck
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I don't know how, but the US and UK need to do a hard reset on all their universities.
unplug it and plug it back in situtation.
It's so blatant now that the hardcore mental brainwashing and retardation of youth is happening on campus.
Singular7
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Why did they even do this brainwashing in the first place? It's bizarre and seems like an obvious outcome.
So did "they" want this outcome?
Oye.. Weird stuff. All these elites of the day had to do was promote the high science high morality world of 1950 USA and the world would be on a good path.
So maybe its the Bolshevik revolution all over again, which is this bizarre combo of atheism and age-old hate of the jews. Kinda sorta funny to consider too lol
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Mistake
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It's not only weapons the government would need to think about. They have no chance of keeping anything running if 50% of their personnel up and left. A friend of mine works on a military base, and they had to rescind the covid shot mandate because they wouldn't have staff. Don't forget those same people are trained and now how everything works
StueyDuck
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well if i put my tinfoil hat on, my initial thought would be that it started initially by men in suits just trying create worker ants.
But somewhere along the line, communists and Marxists figured out that a 20-year-old is the dumbest thing on the planet and had been building up this for many , many years now in the hope of causing civil unrest.
a distabalized west looks pretty nice to some other nations.
This is complete thumb sucked from my arse though, like if we did know the root cause i think this would be alot easier and quicker to fix.
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clem84
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Might be just my imagination, but the anti-gun narrative seems to not be quite as loud as it used to be on the left. The criminal justice reforms of blue states and blue cities have created very unsafe neighborhoods. Many in those parts of the country, regardless of party affiliation, just want to arm themselves.
Singular7
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Yes! Great point. The last ~10 years makes no sense strategically (from that 'elite' world controller view)
So either this is the plan (the breakdown) OR their plan is just failing OR there is no "they" and this is a big mess the supposed oligarchs have no control over.
Gp1
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See what happened with Nepal...
3liteDragon
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It's clear they're the root of the problem, there needs to be an institutional purge.
TransTrender
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Singular7
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Excellent points.... so if your tinfoil hat is correct, then its basically China doing a philosophical / psychological war against the western system... maybe.... seems a bit too obvious if we can see it though.
So the reality is probably a couple layers deeper.
StueyDuck
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literally one year, close all the universities down, don't accept any new students, and seriously investigate and audit the fuck out of them, just one year.
like i say, a hard reset. One year of pain, those new kids can take a gap year, i did, it was great i partied, got laid, got drunk as a skunk, they'll survive one year and its probably better for them to take a year of from school to really just figure themselves out, rather than get brainwashed by nutjobs.
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StueyDuck
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i don't know about china specifically, but it certainly could be one of the key contributers.
could just be the left over nazi/soviet sympathiser communists from back in the day, honestly who knows at this point.
it's just clear that there is a problem.
12Goblins
Thinks Sydney Sweeney is a man
If tyranny were to occur in the US, in our lifetimes anyway, it would be in the form of nationalism and the people in control of the military. I can't really see it happen any other way
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Unknown Soldier
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They combined extremely restrictive gun control with criminal justice policies that basically don't punish crime because criminality is the result of racism and therefore releasing criminal is social justice
The result is the the brutal murder of the Ukrainian refugee on a bus by a 14 times previously arrested violent criminal in Charlotte NC
calico
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Right, but the Taliban made the cost more than it was worth, and they were only able to do that because they were armed.
Could the US state kill enough Americans to subjugate the rest of the population? Sure, probably, assuming the military went along with it without splitting. How does the state come out ahead in this scenario? They would rule over a shattered country instead of de facto ruling an in-tact one. Other than the inconvenience of having to hold mostly illusory elections every so often, it costs them little to allow the citizenry to keep the rights they currently have.
If on the other hand the citizenry is unarmed, it is a trivial matter to subjugate them. The potential cost would be so negligible that rights could be removed on a whim.
Tyey exist because the US decided to not bomb them into oblivion.....
.....and you underestimate that the very same military equipment that COULD eradicate life on vast swaths of the Earth is controlled by Americans who have to be the ones to execute any commands. And if you think bomber pilots, drone operators, and mechanized units are some sort of homogenous "follow any order" type automaton, might want to think again.
Utilizing National Guard to enforce law and order in a city is a faaaar stretch from using the active duty military to 'pacify' entire states.
Singular7
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I completely agree. Committing to a hard view is impossible at this point.
Mistake
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If you want to find someone who hates the government the most, talk to a marine. Don't worry about it
Angry_Megalodon
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I already posted a video from 1985, FORTY YEARS AGO, a russian defector explaining the process of social brainwashing in the US, how they infiltrated the universities and what was their endgame. The timeline matches 100% what we are witnessing today. It's the collapse of the West, in perfect coordination.
Everybody who believes this is "coincidental" needs to wake the fuck up and treat these ghouls as puppets of the enemy.
Singular7
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OK yes, I have seen those Yuri Besme-something videos, and also yes, that is what is happening.
But its so long ago... do we really think that a ~70 year old Russian-communist plot is the cause of this stuff? (its not impossible, just seems unlikely)
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