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Edit: The first video, while in-depth, contains disturbing images. Viewer discretion advised.
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Charlie Kirk assassinated at Utah campus event
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DeafTourette
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I really wish people would stop sharing the video... Unless they somehow get off on traumatizing folks
j0hnnix
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Cleanup in society is happening. We are definitely on the Culture of Consequence phase now. Took awhile..
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It was not my intention to traumatize anyone. If I did, I apologize. For my part, I was relieved to learn that he didn't suffer when it happened.
j0hnnix
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I tried to avoid my finace seeing it and then my teenage son sees it while browsing and then shows it to her. I really despise social media.
DeafTourette
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No. Not talking about anyone in this thread. I'm talking the folks on Twitter and YouTube. You're good, bro.
DeafTourette
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The constant doom scrolling has to stop. Especially now that his death is basically trauma porn for some folks ... Even the ones who are upset at it all.
Trilobit
Absolutely Cozy
That can be deceptive though. I read an article in European Conservative that spoke of Yugoslavia before their civil war:
Civil War Approaches
One of the key conditions that King’s College professor David Betz says leads to civil war: an elite radically disconnected from the masses.
europeanconservative.com
Of course, Yugoslavia and USA is far from a 1:1 comparison, but it shows that the vitriol can be simmering under the surface until it's suddenly ignited. Once a civil war starts, atrocities begin and who knows how long it'll take before things settle.
I hope it never comes to it in USA or Europe, but ignoring signs and saying that it's impossible to happen in the modern Western world can lead to blindness of real risks.
GymWolf
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Does that montage even include some of his "best" moments?
Dude is a retard, uber naive or the best troll ever
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I can't see a scenario where there won't be a civil war in the not-so-distant future in Western Europe. It feels inevitable because not all cultures are compatible with each other.
Trilobit
Absolutely Cozy
You know the WP is taking stuff seriously when even a black woman gets fired.
'a white man'
AJUMP23
Parody of actual AJUMP23
'a white man'
Columnist is FIRED by Washington Post over post after Kirk murder
Prominent columnist and editor Karen Attiah has been fired from the Washington Post over a series of posts she wrote following the murder of Charlie Kirk.
Tabloid article. She leaned way into hate.
laynelane
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That can be deceptive though. I read an article in European Conservative that spoke of Yugoslavia before their civil war:
Civil War Approaches
One of the key conditions that King’s College professor David Betz says leads to civil war: an elite radically disconnected from the masses.
Of course, Yugoslavia and USA is far from a 1:1 comparison, but it shows that the vitriol can be simmering under the surface until it's suddenly ignited. Once a civil war starts, atrocities begin and who knows how long it'll take before things settle.
I hope it never comes to it in USA or Europe, but ignoring signs and saying that it's impossible to happen in the modern Western world can lead to blindness of real risks.
That's why I put "(usually)" in my comment. I'm aware that there are examples in history that disprove the majority are moderate - civil wars were exactly what I was thinking about. I also hope it never comes to the USA or Europe, but the immediate aftermath of a graphic and public murder (this atrocity was viewed by millions and is still being viewed by new people - which is definitely impacting peoples' emotions) is not the best place to search for "signs" either. People are understandably worked up and it doesn't help that there are many who seem intent on fanning those flames further.
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DeafTourette
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I hope everyone is doing well today. Don't let this change you or make you fear. That's what the loud minority wants!
I lived through a coup d'état in a miltary family. I think I know a thing or two.
An invasion from who? No it doesn't make it untenable. Unless you think army bases are free pickings at night time? The army would be more heavily fortified and experienced than a bunch of people who bought a rifle from their local best buy. Occupation is tenable even when there is military might defending, I don't know why you think a bunch of inexperienced people who bought a gun can stop that. Look at Ukraine or countless other countries where even with military technology they were overun by another army.
The US military is becoming a caste. The recruits are overwhelmingly from certain areas, because thats where the bases are, where it is more favorable to retirees, and 30% of recruits have a parent in the military, 70-80% have a family member in the military. Given that there are only 1.5mill active duty out of 350mill population, this is EXTREMELY insular, and getting mor
e so.
So if you are going to 'fear' the US Military, you need to take a good hard look at the data I've provided to see how unfounded that is in general, unless you live in New England I guess (and quite frankly, you can have it
An army can very easily wipe out your average joes with guns but what is the point? People bring up the Taliban or Vietnam as examples of primitive tech beating newer advanced tech but in Vietnam the Vietnamese lost 1,100,000 (half civilians) people vs 200,000 US and allied losses but it was the "hearts and minds" campaign that failed and ultimately made it an unwinnable war not that the punny weapons were a match for warplanes and helicopters. unless they straight killed everybody there the US couldn't win, they didn't win the hearts and minds of the Vietnamese that they set out to do. They could have continued carpet bombing the hell out of that place but to what end? Millions more deaths? Same with the taliban in Afghanistan or Iraq. The US can occupy those places easily but what good is continued occupation if the Taliban have the hearts and minds of the people there in the end? Guns weren't even the big danger in places like that. Nowadays you send in a small drone and you can easily wipe out any armed militia. It was mainly IEDs that were a danger and yet we have such strict dual use chemical restrictions on civilians and less restrictive gun laws because the later is protected by an outdated law. Only because of the second amendment, because the right to keep and bear arms helped ensure states could form militias to check a government in the past. The government today though has a lot better tech that the civilian population doesn't have access to. It's not an even playing field anymore, it was when we had guns as the most advanced killing technology and the second amendment was made.
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calico
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I glanced at her whiny ass substack post about her firing and predictably is claiming she was fired for 'speaking out about political violence' and doesn't mention her racist remark. She also repeats the false quote doing the rounds of what Charlie supposedly said about black women, so she doesn't even have the most basic integrity or competence a journalist should have.Columnist is FIRED by Washington Post over post after Kirk murder
Prominent columnist and editor Karen Attiah has been fired from the Washington Post over a series of posts she wrote following the murder of Charlie Kirk.www.dailymail.co.uk
Tabloid article. She leaned way into hate.
Idleyes
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Based on what's been shared, it sounds like both the shooter and some family members had oppositional views toward Kirk, but the reports don't reveal whether they had the same reasons or intensity of disagreement. At this moment, no further information is available, so anything beyond is speculation influenced by personal bias, in my opinion.
Considering this is Reddit you're talking bout, which is basically the internet's catch-all forum, open to just about every subject, you're probably seeing just one subreddit. I highly doubt it represents the whole platform. For example r/Conservative.
AJUMP23
Parody of actual AJUMP23
Well the quote about black women I looked up. he was being specific about 3 black women, Sheila Jackson Lee was one of them. And I know of her reputation in congress among the interns. You did not want to work for her because she made interns lives hell. The guy I worked for made our life a lot of fun.
ResurrectedContrarian
Suffers with mild autism
I can't help it, this is the funniest thing I've seen in a long time
I just wish Philip Seymour Hoffman was still alive to play the calm guy here in a film adaption
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Mistake
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Viva Frei and Robert Barns covered this on rumble. If you don't know them, Viva I see as very moderate and is good at asking tough questions, like putting the shoe on other foot or devils advocate type stuff. Barns is libertarian, and I consider him to have a good track record when it comes to cases. He's called out Candace Owens and warned about Dominion machines having a winning lawsuit for example. They helped me keep my head straight on more than one occasion, so I recommend them.
We live in crazy times and all this information can be hard to digest. Talking with each other and asking questions is more important than ever
We live in crazy times and all this information can be hard to digest. Talking with each other and asking questions is more important than ever
DeafTourette
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Thanks for the suggestion!
StreetsofBeige
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Side topic. Why does NY State have hardly anyone? All the other big states seem to havw tons of people. Is it simply because the Virginia/N Carolina are close enough to NY their military will cover them?You don't have a very clear understanding of how civil war works. Personal firearms won't stop tanks, supersonic bombers, and drones, that is true. That's why you ALSO need a good defensive military guarding borders to prevent an INVASION.
Personal firearms are about making OCCUPATION untenable. Because, to no surprise, tank drivers, drone operators, and bomber pilots do actually have to get out and sleep, so if they are surrounded by an armed and hostile population they are trying to oppress, their personal security becomes EXTREMELY difficult. Trying to control cities, bridges, airfields, sources of resource production, power generation, manufacturing, refining, all the reasons WHY you would invade a region in the first place, an armed populace can make controlling those places almost impossible because guys in a tank or flying in a plane can't run an assembly line, process food, or build bridges.
I recommend watching Red Dawn (80's version, 'natch) to see the logistical difficulties that lightly armed guerrillas native to the region can inflict on invaders with superior technology. And then contemplate that if the US militiary was told to violently suppress, say Texas, that A TON the US military trigger pullers ARE FROM TEXAS, or have been in Texas, and might be sympathetic to Texas. You can start to see the difficulties in using the US military to 'pacify' certain regions of the US.
The US military is becoming a caste. The recruits are overwhelmingly from certain areas, because thats where the bases are, where it is more favorable to retirees, and 30% of recruits have a parent in the military, 70-80% have a family member in the military. Given that there are only 1.5mill active duty out of 350mill population, this is EXTREMELY insular, and getting mor
e so.
So if you are going to 'fear' the US Military, you need to take a good hard look at the data I've provided to see how unfounded that is in general, unless you live in New England I guess (and quite frankly, you can have it
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Dr.Morris79
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So by your logic it's nicer to be drone bombed unarmed?
My chart isn't where the military is based, but rather where recruits come from. There is a fair amount of overlap, as California, Texas, Georgia, North Carolina, and Virginia are all homes to massive military bases.
New York has Fort Drum with the 10th Mountain Division, West Point, and a couple much smaller places. I just don't think many folks retire to NY, so their kids don't come from there as a recruit. That whole area has a low representation in the military, folks GTFO to the South
In the US the active duty military is expressly PROHIBITED from operating within the nations borders (Posse Comitatus Act) so the locations of bases are more aligned with space for training, access to roads, rail, and ports to be shipped overseas, and where weather is more forgiving for year round training (this is why so many of the big bases are now in the southern US). So they are not placed for defensive purposes as we really have little to no need for it. The risk of military invasion from Canada is almost non-existent these days, and Mexico SHOULD be a border concern but we have only very limited authority to use the military to enforce that border. So our troops are mostly in remote areas, far from the large urban centers because it is cheap, we have the space to drive around shooting things, and then over time retirees clustered around those bases, their kids go into the military, and now we are here.
Culture plays a HUGE aspect as well. Big cities seem to have a reduced awareness of military service, I think the colleges in that areas are less likely to have ROTC, recruiters, etc. But go to some big Texas colleges and they are practically a direct military pipeline. The government is VERY aware of this trend and is trying to combat it because its getting closer to having a military that COULD turn on the coastal urban areas, and there are not enough rural farm boys anymore to meet the need. Whether the recruiting shift will work...that's a topic for another thread.
ReBurn
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Good to see that Geraldo is still retarded after all these years.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Ya, I misread your charts. Thanks for the write up.My chart isn't where the military is based, but rather where recruits come from. There is a fair amount of overlap, as California, Texas, Georgia, North Carolina, and Virginia are all homes to massive military bases.
New York has Fort Drum with the 10th Mountain Division, West Point, and a couple much smaller places. I just don't think many folks retire to NY, so their kids don't come from there as a recruit. That whole area has a low representation in the military, folks GTFO to the South
In the US the active duty military is expressly PROHIBITED from operating within the nations borders (Posse Comitatus Act) so the locations of bases are more aligned with space for training, access to roads, rail, and ports to be shipped overseas, and where weather is more forgiving for year round training (this is why so many of the big bases are now in the southern US). So they are not placed for defensive purposes as we really have little to no need for it. The risk of military invasion from Canada is almost non-existent these days, and Mexico SHOULD be a border concern but we have only very limited authority to use the military to enforce that border. So our troops are mostly in remote areas, far from the large urban centers because it is cheap, we have the space to drive around shooting things, and then over time retirees clustered around those bases, their kids go into the military, and now we are here.
Culture plays a HUGE aspect as well. Big cities seem to have a reduced awareness of military service, I think the colleges in that areas are less likely to have ROTC, recruiters, etc. But go to some big Texas colleges and they are practically a direct military pipeline. The government is VERY aware of this trend and is trying to combat it because its getting closer to having a military that COULD turn on the coastal urban areas, and there are not enough rural farm boys anymore to meet the need. Whether the recruiting shift will work...that's a topic for another thread.
MacReady13
Member
Please tell me what violence he espoused? Please tell me as I haven't seen him tell anyone to go forth and commit any crime whatsoever! Why do these fucking psycho's feel the need to make shit up to justify murder?
'a white man'
p_xavier
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He was playing Doom. That was the only reason.
MacReady13
Member
Good. Fuck em. Fuck em all I say. Your actions cannot go without appropriate consequences. I have zero sympathy for these fuckos.
paolo11
Member
He was spewing hate then makes a video denying these. What kind of person is this individual?
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
In the film Hollywood would never produce in 1,000 years?
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"We fired some people for something...no details available."
WTF kinda press statement is this?
Putonahappyface
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Antwix
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chalk another one up for "white" people bad
The federal government officially categorizes people with origins in Lebanon, Iran, Egypt and other countries in the MENA region as white.
Insane Metal
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Holy shit. That's amazing.
Mr Moose
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