chinmonster
Member
bad pictures, but the monitor kicks ass for both pc and ps2 (19 inch samsung). I'd definitely recommend it.
cheap HDtv
- Thread starter Captain N
- Start date
bad pictures, but the monitor kicks ass for both pc and ps2 (19 inch samsung). I'd definitely recommend it.
PhoenixDark
Banned
DaCocoBrova said:
That's what I plan on doing; have you done this, if so what are your experiences with it? Any input on this from anyone would be greatly appreciated.
What's the best monitor to buy, resolution wise? I would like to play games in 720p without the black lines, or some any good resolution that'll fit the entire screen and look great.
http://www.compusa.com/products/pro...5&Pn=AL1917Asm_19_inch_LCD_Multimedia_Monitor
Would this be a good choice? It's 5:4
chinmonster
Member
PhoenixDark said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16824001073
Do it to it. It runs 720p like a champion, and works well with PS2 and computer (see above pictures). 16:10 screen ratio, but it's hardly noticeable.
Diablohead
Member
Anyone know if the 940mw is software updateable? I got my screen nearly a year ago now. In fact could anyone with one and a 360 with a vga wire test out component RBG and then vga from the 360 and tell me how bigger difference there is? because im sure im still not getting 720p correctly.
Rabid Pancake
TheTrin's underpaid lackey
Any Samsung product. You get what you pay for.
32" Vizio $699 http://www.amazon.com/Vizio-L32-Widescreen-HD-Ready-Flat-Panel/dp/B000BWY0BC
got rid of my 30" Phillips HD at Costco and picked this up, yea the samsung 23" was the same price....but this thing has hdmi, vga, 2 component inputs and has held up pretty well, 360 games are really great looking (it was night and day compared to my HD tube), even the standard def stuff is decent, yea you could spend more money on something better but i`m buying a new tv in 2 years for 1080p and the new HDMI tech.....its held up real well and im more than ready for the next gen stuff
got rid of my 30" Phillips HD at Costco and picked this up, yea the samsung 23" was the same price....but this thing has hdmi, vga, 2 component inputs and has held up pretty well, 360 games are really great looking (it was night and day compared to my HD tube), even the standard def stuff is decent, yea you could spend more money on something better but i`m buying a new tv in 2 years for 1080p and the new HDMI tech.....its held up real well and im more than ready for the next gen stuff
B_Rik_Schitthaus
Banned
Thankyou GAF, I picked up the Samsung 940MW after reading this thread, I did a google search and found no UK enteries so I assumed this was US only, flicked through the Argos catalog and there she was....
and damn am I pleased, I was using VGA on a 4:3 17" CRT moniter and whilst it was good, it was nothing compared to this (even just for the effect widescreen has). So many connection options, even scart for us euro folk. I've been messing around with the Componant vs VGA cable and have found myself leaning towards componant, the picture seems more vivid and alive (alive?) despite the fact I lose the Picture in Picture/ pBp feature and upscaled DVD's.
Standard 576i Pal looks fine, freeview looks a bit dodgy but thats due to the horrible mpeg 2 source, There's a ton of picture and sound options and the sound itself is very impressive, I'm still torn between virtual dolby and BBE.
Setup was a peice of piss and everything works how I think most menus should work.
and damn am I pleased, I was using VGA on a 4:3 17" CRT moniter and whilst it was good, it was nothing compared to this (even just for the effect widescreen has). So many connection options, even scart for us euro folk. I've been messing around with the Componant vs VGA cable and have found myself leaning towards componant, the picture seems more vivid and alive (alive?) despite the fact I lose the Picture in Picture/ pBp feature and upscaled DVD's.
Standard 576i Pal looks fine, freeview looks a bit dodgy but thats due to the horrible mpeg 2 source, There's a ton of picture and sound options and the sound itself is very impressive, I'm still torn between virtual dolby and BBE.
Setup was a peice of piss and everything works how I think most menus should work.
Diablohead
Member
Im in the uk too, how much did you pay for this the other day? It set me back £300 a year ago!B_Rik_Schitthaus said:
Don't you find vga looks tons better then component?
B_Rik_Schitthaus
Banned
Diablohead said:
Same price, it wasn't any cheaper from online stores like Dabs and Ebuyer either. Great price though and perfectly in line with models of the same screen size but with less features, Aldi (I love Aldi, thier medion PCs own hard, so do thier yoghurts) had a bush one at the same price a while ago and I've seen goodmans at the same price aswell neither as high resolution nor as feature packed
I'm still experimenting with the VGA there seems to be a bit of grey wash which I'm sure is solvable, the colours don't seem to be as deep which again I'm sure is solvable.
Just a quick query Is there anyway to use the Red and White audio cables on the VGA cable on the TV itself rather than pluging them into my stereo?
Diablohead
Member
I use a converter that turns them into an earphone like thin plug, I think the converter came with my official vga wire but maplins sell them for like under £1 (converters)B_Rik_Schitthaus said:
Yeha the colour is a ton nicer in component but the resolution in vga will get you hooked
TheJollyCorner
Member
raYne said:
Question for anyone in particular that knows-
So I have a 30-inch 1080i Progressive Scan, flatscreen ADVENT HDTV, but it doesn't have HDMI. Is that gonna have much of an impact on me, or can I expect to still get some good results with PS3 (and some decent component cables)?
X360 looks pretty good on it, but I was completely spoiled after seeing it on my friend's
50-inch, 720p Phillips plasma HDTV. Holy shit did that look way better than mine.
Was it simply the plasma and more screen-size that made it appear better?
TheJollyCorner
Member
JB1981 said:
Best Buy in my area was closing out the brand, so I got it for $399. I've had it almost two years with no problems, so I have absolutely nothing to complain about.
As a starter HDTV, it's been great... I do, of course, plan to buy a new (bigger/better/badder) TV probably late next year, but for now I just hope this sucker shows me why 1080i is supposedly better than 720p.
B_Rik_Schitthaus
Banned
Diablohead said:I use a converter that turns them into an earphone like thin plug, I think the converter came with my official vga wire but maplins sell them for like under £1 (converters)
Yeha the colour is a ton nicer in component but the resolution in vga will get you hooked
Oh christ of course the 2.5mm audio in, what a dumbass I am.
Yeh VGA would be the preference I'll just keep experimenting, god knows there's enough options.
Alright, I hope someone here can help me with my decision. Im looking to get an external monitor for my Notebook, and I might play a little on it as well (X360, Wii), however I won't be watching any TV.
Here's a couple of models that I'm considering:
Acer AL1916W Black 19" @ $189
SAMSUNG 940MW-SV Silver 19" @ $329 (any sense in buying this one, if I'm not going to watch TV?)
ViewSonic Q19wb Black 19" @ $196
DELL 2007WFP @ $339
Thanks
Here's a couple of models that I'm considering:
Acer AL1916W Black 19" @ $189
SAMSUNG 940MW-SV Silver 19" @ $329 (any sense in buying this one, if I'm not going to watch TV?)
ViewSonic Q19wb Black 19" @ $196
DELL 2007WFP @ $339
Thanks
Is there even a VGA cable announced for the Wii? 'Cause that's sorta important since some of your choices are pure monitors with VGA being the only input.zou said:Alright, I hope someone here can help me with my decision. Im looking to get an external monitor for my Notebook, and I might play a little on it as well (X360, Wii), however I won't be watching any TV.
Here's a couple of models that I'm considering:
Acer AL1916W Black 19" @ $189
SAMSUNG 940MW-SV Silver 19" @ $329 (any sense in buying this one, if I'm not going to watch TV?)
ViewSonic Q19wb Black 19" @ $196
DELL 2007WFP @ $339
Thanks
-Dell: Skip it because of the 16ms refresh. You want 8 or preferably under.
-Acer: Doesn't have any speakers. Could be a problem depending on what setup you're going for. Good choice all around but...
-Viewsonic: ...does everything better. Lower refresh, higher contrast ratio etc. Plus, speakers.
-Samsung: Unless you need the TV tuner & the inputs it provides you can save yourself the money and go with a pure monitor. I will say that the inputs could come in handy though. Plus, you never know when you may need a spare tv... even it's it's just for POP (Picture outside picture :lol)
If you go with any of the pure monitors (or even the Samsung depending on how anal you are about sound quality) you may have to invest in some speakers.
Sorry to bring back an old thread, but im also in the market for a "cheap" hdtv. And I dont know too much about HDTV, so please bare with me. Im just a fellow gamer trying to get the best picture possible with this monitor.After searcing on the forums i came accross this thread and the samsung according to those that have it..seems like a good monitor. But my concern is this. With some questions.
I have an xbox 360.
I dont have an hdtv.
I do have component inputs on my tv(which looks alright)
Will my xbox games be in HD with this monitor using the component cables? And will I have to turn the switch on the 360 cable to "hdtv"
Can I achieve a better picture if I buy the VGA adapter for 360 and use that instead of the component. (excluding the possibility that a dashboard update may bring)
Now about the TV part of this monitor.
This monitor is "HDTV" ready
Does this mean all I have to do is plug in my cable to the back, and tv programs that support HDTV, will be in HDTV without the need for a HD reciever?
Thank you for your time and I apologise for my ignorance
I have an xbox 360.
I dont have an hdtv.
I do have component inputs on my tv(which looks alright)
Will my xbox games be in HD with this monitor using the component cables? And will I have to turn the switch on the 360 cable to "hdtv"
Can I achieve a better picture if I buy the VGA adapter for 360 and use that instead of the component. (excluding the possibility that a dashboard update may bring)
Now about the TV part of this monitor.
This monitor is "HDTV" ready
Does this mean all I have to do is plug in my cable to the back, and tv programs that support HDTV, will be in HDTV without the need for a HD reciever?
Thank you for your time and I apologise for my ignorance
Crazymoogle
Member
kewlsanx said:
Good.
If the monitor is HD, yes or probably yes. You'll need to set your 360 to the proper resolution. Component does allow for HD signals so you're good there.
Very likely.
Depends on the monitor. Component may look great, so if you have that try sticking with it for a bit.
That means HD, but no tuner. Which means you're good to go for games and whatever, but screwed for antenna TV broadcasts.
If you're going to get HD via cable or satellite than you'll need the HD receiver they offer, regardless of what your TV has. (some sets support cablecard but that's an entirely different bunch of crap we don't need to get into.)
JoshuaJSlone
Member
Here's the Philips Electronics Outlet, but it doesn't have quite what you ask for. There are 30" CRT 16:9 HDTVs in the $400 range, and then there are 32" LCD HDTV at $700+.Vieo said:
B_Rik_Schitthaus
Banned
Argos online
Special offer on the Samsung 940 MW at argos, online and instore (I think)
Down to £249.99 from £299.99,
It really is THAT good and at that price it makes it even more worthwhile.
Edit: Or This I Havn't got a clue what its like
Not quite the same as the samsung.
Edit 2: Or This, Whats going on? Shift out all the HDTV's day
Special offer on the Samsung 940 MW at argos, online and instore (I think)
Down to £249.99 from £299.99,
It really is THAT good and at that price it makes it even more worthwhile.
Edit: Or This I Havn't got a clue what its like
Not quite the same as the samsung.
Edit 2: Or This, Whats going on? Shift out all the HDTV's day
frAntic_Frog
Member
any more updates/reviews on the olevia 23" TV? hows the display when you hook up to your PC via VGA? i heard its blurry when you do so......
i'm practically deciding between the olevia or a samsung 940MW 19"......but leaning more towards the olevia since it has an HDMI port so i can directly hook up the PS3 without going thru a HDMI --> DVI converter. hows the sound of the olevia when you hook up headphones?
appreciate any feedback!
i'm practically deciding between the olevia or a samsung 940MW 19"......but leaning more towards the olevia since it has an HDMI port so i can directly hook up the PS3 without going thru a HDMI --> DVI converter. hows the sound of the olevia when you hook up headphones?
appreciate any feedback!
frAntic_Frog said:
I just got one a few days ago.
Picture from VGA is nice. It doesn't look as sharp as my monitor unless I turn up the sharpness quiet a bit though.
Sound is great when it's not coming from the TV's speakers. I would suggest buying a cheap two speaker set. Headphones sound great.
brandonh83
Banned
My mom just popped the question to me -- not that question, har har -- the what do I want for Christmas question. I told her I just wanted an HD monitor, not a full blown HDTV, a small one between 19-22 inches, that does up to 1080i... my biggest questions/thoughts now are:
1) I want to hook the Wii up to it, mainly for Zelda widescreen goodness--now I've heard standard def signals look bad on HD sets, but if I used component cables, wouldn't it look good? When I played it at the tour, they were hooked up to HD monitors and it looked great. Just wondering what I would need to make the Wii look the best. Also, I may be mistaken, but wouldn't the best signal for a standard def console be 480p/progressive scan?
2) do HD monitors have HDMI connectors, or should I just be okay with DVI until I get a PS3 and a bigger HDTV next year?
Thanks for any help, as this stuff confuses the hell out of me.
edit: see chinmonster's HD monitor is exactly what I'm going for. It's a good size for me and the picture appears to be very crisp with a standard def game.
1) I want to hook the Wii up to it, mainly for Zelda widescreen goodness--now I've heard standard def signals look bad on HD sets, but if I used component cables, wouldn't it look good? When I played it at the tour, they were hooked up to HD monitors and it looked great. Just wondering what I would need to make the Wii look the best. Also, I may be mistaken, but wouldn't the best signal for a standard def console be 480p/progressive scan?
2) do HD monitors have HDMI connectors, or should I just be okay with DVI until I get a PS3 and a bigger HDTV next year?
Thanks for any help, as this stuff confuses the hell out of me.
edit: see chinmonster's HD monitor is exactly what I'm going for. It's a good size for me and the picture appears to be very crisp with a standard def game.
brandonh83 said:
This thread convinced me to go monitor-shopping today and I bought that Samsung monitor too. I've only connected my ps2 on it with rgb cable and it looks good, but I wanted to know the same things as you brandon: whether it's worth it to buy component cables for Wii (and ps2), will there be a noticeable difference?
Go with the Olevia Brand, for the price their LCD's can't be beat, they are styleish, have good feature sets and mine doesn't have a SINGLE bad pixel. If you Need SUPER cheap go with the 323V at less than 400 for 23" 720P set, for a little more 550 or so you can get the 327v at 27" ( I got this one) a nd finally for 600-700 you can get the 32" models, NOW these are HDTV Monitors, and don't have the HDTV(or any other) tuner built in but as long as you have a cable or satelite box you should be fine otherwise get a set top tuner or go with the Olevia 5 Series that has the same specs as the 3 series but includes the tuners.
raYne said:
woah, that looks about perfect does it come in 24 or 30 or anything a step over 19" ???
what about this?
http://www.samsung.com/Products/TV/LCDTV/LNS2651DXXAA.asp?page=Specifications
Irish Icon
Member
Yeah I am seriously considering buying the 23" Olevia for $380. You can't beat that price for the feature set. Plus, a 23" in my room would be a lot better than a 19". I have a 26" CRT Samsung HDTV and it has an amazing picture quality, but w/ a 19" screen I don't really know if I'd notice a difference between the Olevia.
brandonh83
Banned
Darunia said:
Well yeah with component cables it should look much better. I'm not sure how RGB cables differ from component though.
Irish Icon
Member
Hey Olevia owners, how is the picture of Standard Def stuff coming through regular cable?
DaCocoBrova
Finally bought a new PSP, but then pushed the demon onto someone else. Jesus.
^^
Just get a receiver to handle component switching... Easy and not expensive at all.
Just get a receiver to handle component switching... Easy and not expensive at all.
JoshuaJSlone
Member
I got either the same or a very similar model, as they've done a bit of price shuffling in recent months. On the back it's got 1 of each type of input, and on the side there is an additional input that's composite+S-video.Chris_C said:
As for quality... well, I'm pleased with what I got for my money, but considering I don't currently have anything to input that goes beyond 480p, it's hard to go much beyond "Anamorphic F-Zero GX and Big Top Pee-Wee sure look nice."
Yeah, just what I did.DaCocoBrova said:
JoshuaJSlone said:
I'm not a videophile, so I can't speak to the quality as it compares to other HDTV's, but it looks pretty good to me when I play 360 games and watch 720p game trailers. The only problem I've had with it is that the image on screen seems to be "zoomed in" an inch too much, it hasn't been a problem yet, but I can see from the Brothers in Arms: HH trailer that it'll cut off a part of the HUD. As far as I know there isn't a way to resize the image on screen.
JoshuaJSlone
Member
I believe overscan tends to vary a bit by specific television, as well as specific input. Like, F-Zero GX doesn't quite use all the available width when stretched, though DVDs through PS2 do. On Xenosaga it seems like a bit of height is being cut off.Chris_C said:
I think these things can be attempted to be fixed through the user-unfriendly service menu. Though I've found the remote combination to get in, I haven't seen a decent guide for how to use it, so I haven't made any attempts to adjust it.
This is one I considered, too, being similar in size and price to the Philips refurbs. The main thing that turned me off, though, was that it was 1080i only, whereas the one I got had both 1080i and 480p modes, so better for my current systems and Wii without any need for scaling or line doubling.Smokey Bones said:
Xdrive05
Member
What do I need to know about a computer monitor VS hdtv? I need something in widescreen around 23" that will do 720p or thereabouts, for around the 400 - 500 dollar mark.
Circut City has this deal:
http://www.circuitcity.com/ccd/productDetail.do?oid=161753&sourceid=qIpmRUi8fhJVAlrDJXvL&affiliateid=39502629&carriage=befree&AID=10375042&PID=600263&URL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.circuitcity.com%2Fccd%2FproductDetail.do%3Foid%3D161753&JSESSIONID=FL8pSWX5GpnqWxkR4B1pnJwQQjb6dQ!725796413!1162394750457
Would I be better off going with something like that instead of a real hdtv with tuner? Of course, I DO really want tv inputs like component, s-video, audio-out (headphones at least), but can I get some kind of converter to offer those features with a monitor?
Circut City has this deal:
http://www.circuitcity.com/ccd/productDetail.do?oid=161753&sourceid=qIpmRUi8fhJVAlrDJXvL&affiliateid=39502629&carriage=befree&AID=10375042&PID=600263&URL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.circuitcity.com%2Fccd%2FproductDetail.do%3Foid%3D161753&JSESSIONID=FL8pSWX5GpnqWxkR4B1pnJwQQjb6dQ!725796413!1162394750457
Would I be better off going with something like that instead of a real hdtv with tuner? Of course, I DO really want tv inputs like component, s-video, audio-out (headphones at least), but can I get some kind of converter to offer those features with a monitor?
DaCocoBrova
Finally bought a new PSP, but then pushed the demon onto someone else. Jesus.
The main difference between a monitor and an HDTV is input options, built in SD/HD tuner and remote control.