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[Neuromancer]

Hey what's the deal with (what I think is) the end of level 5?

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Past all the bosses you're done before, the part where there's a picture of the girl in the middle. Basically it's like the whole screen goes pink and I died without even knowing what hit me! What am I supposed to be doing?

 

[Phonomezer]

Hey what's the deal with (what I think is) the end of level 5?

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Past all the bosses you're done before, the part where there's a picture of the girl in the middle. Basically it's like the whole screen goes pink and I died without even knowing what hit me! What am I supposed to be doing?

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Is that where those big, worm-things made of cubes are moving around it? There are two things - you will see a circle of thin purple lines (|||||||||) closing in on the sphere as you are shooting them - aim for their tails. If you do not defeat them before the circle encloses the sphere will shoot out a load of gold stars that you must destroy with the rapid fire

 

[Neuromancer]

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Is that where those big, worm-things made of cubes are moving around it? There are two things - you will see a circle of thin purple lines (|||||||||) closing in on the sphere as you are shooting them - aim for their tails. If you do not defeat them before the circle encloses the sphere will shoot out a load of gold stars that you must destroy with the rapid fire

Ah thanks!

Now I have to do the whole level over, not sure I have the heart tonight.

 

[saunderez]

Ah thanks!

Now I have to do the whole level over, not sure I have the heart tonight.

Here's what worked for me.

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When the creatures surround Lumi take out your rapid fire laser and fire into the middle until they change colours. They will go purple and then blue I think. When they are blue they leave the surface and you can use the lock on laser to target the small yellow targets around Lumi. They will then turn purple and you will need to use the rapid fire laser to stop any purple debris from hitting you (it approaches from the right). Rinse/repeat until it's all over. Would be so much easier to explain this if the game wasn't just a heap of abstract creatures and colours lol.

 

[kyo27]

This game worth more than those Call of Duty games. Those boring annualize Call of Duty and Madden should have been the ones going for $15 as they are basically the same game every year. It's not like they need to put any work to make in them anyway. Copy and paste and call it a day.

You might have a case with Madden, but to say Call of Duty is the same every year is just ignorant. The fact is the multiplayer really gives those types of games tremendous replay value which justifies its cost. Single player only games don't have nearly the replay value no matter how good it may be. It seems like this forum likes to hate on anything mainstream just to be hip.

 

[Phonomezer]

Call of Eden would be cool, it would be set in WWII after the British government administered LSD to some troops and they have to shoot "the colours" in sync with the music

 

[mattfabb]

You might have a case with Madden, but to say Call of Duty is the same every year is just ignorant. The fact is the multiplayer really gives those types of games tremendous replay value which justifies its cost. Single player only games don't have nearly the replay value no matter how good it may be. It seems like this forum likes to hate on anything mainstream just to be hip.

TBF, if you have money to squander on yearly iteractions of 'shoot the nazi', you probably should not be speaking about 'value'. its a subjective issue, I personally rather spend 10 hours on CoE than 300 on COD.

 

[NeXuSDK]

This game right here finally shows the real potential of Kinect. It's amazing. The best game I've tried in a long time.

 

[Shaneus]

TBF, if you have money to squander on yearly iteractions of 'shoot the nazi', you probably should not be speaking about 'value'. its a subjective issue, I personally rather spend 10 hours on CoE than 300 on COD.

10 hours on CoE and 290 telling everyone how awesome it is! If that's long enough, that is...

This game right here finally shows the real potential of Kinect. It's amazing. The best game I've tried in a long time.

If they can get this sort of responsiveness before the Kinect has been updated/patched (or whatever) to improve bandwidth, imagine what games down the track like Project Draco will be like. The bar has been set, IMO.

 

[Phonomezer]

If they can get this sort of responsiveness before the Kinect has been updated/patched (or whatever) to improve bandwidth, imagine what games down the track like Project Draco will be like. The bar has been set, IMO.

Replaying through Child of Eden just makes me think of how awesome a Panzer Dragoon would look on current hardware, and how it would feel using Kinect.

I really hope they knock it out of the park with Project Draco.

 

[Nemesis_]

It's good to see that Kinect is capable of being much more responsive. Look at how responsive the cursor is on the title screen compared to the dashboard alone. Great stuff.

 

[jizzlobber]

I thought the delay was a hardware thing, I want patches for everything else so it's this snappy, there's almost zero delay here!!

so many people bag kinect but the hardware itself is great, just needs more/better games to support it

 

[JustAnotherOtaku]

Reading through this thread it's so great to see how many people have fallen in love with this game and have it as their current GOTY. Even if it falls down peoples lists as we enter Q4, given what games have already come out this year, it's something of an achievement

 

[NeXuSDK]

It's good to see that Kinect is capable of being much more responsive. Look at how responsive the cursor is on the title screen compared to the dashboard alone. Great stuff.

So true. While I've been longing for more Dance Central-esque menues since I tried that menu, Child of Eden proves that the "hover to select" paradigm works extremely well when it's just been programmed the right way.

I hope the new Xbox interface acts similarly.

 

[golem]

Replaying through Child of Eden just makes me think of how awesome a Panzer Dragoon would look on current hardware, and how it would feel using Kinect.

I really hope they knock it out of the park with Project Draco.

They better have something new to show at TGS!

 

[Special J]

fml

 

[Shaneus]

Replaying through Child of Eden just makes me think of how awesome a Panzer Dragoon would look on current hardware, and how it would feel using Kinect.

I really hope they knock it out of the park with Project Draco.

Left hand = dragon steering. Right hand = shooting. BAM.

 

[MightyHedgehog]

Left hand = dragon steering. Right hand = shooting. BAM.

Open hand = paint lock-on, foward motion/close hand switch = fire off volley. Closed hand = rapid fire/pistol. With a method to change viewing quadrants, like shoulder tracking or gestures, it could be done well, IMO. Kinect is the my preferred way to play CoE as I just score higher with it though not as consistently as controller.

 

[Shaneus]

^^ Even better!

I just like the fact that such an awesome game is the first to really reduce the lag down to a barely noticeable margin. Makes me more confident with the possibilities and potential of the device more than just Wii knockoff games.

 

[Untracked]

I bought Kinect just for this game and so far (just cleared Matrix) it's worth ever penny. Had some Kinect hiccups at first and was about to give up and use a pad, but after recalibrating it's all working fine.
I've got my vibrating pad in my hoodie and I'm loving it.
On to Stage 2.

 

[Coldsnap]

Anyone notice when you let go of a lock on shot (pressing foward with hands) then camera moves up from the movement?

 

[Jintor]

I was watching GAME show off a demo on the show floor (Supernova Sydney) and a) it was preview code, so not as accurate as retail code, b) the booth was poorly placed, because it had to draw in crowds, but it kept picking up back people instead of the person standing directly in front of the thing, and c) nobody actually explained how to play it with the Kinect to people playing. So you get just people flailing around in front of the thing, with no understanding of what they were doing...

Terrible conditions for an incredible game, but I appreciate that it's difficult to show off a Kinect game, really - so much potential for mishaps.

 

[Aruarian Reflection]

If you listen to the 8-4 Play podcast, they reveal that the game was designed for controller in the beginning, Kinect was added later

It's hard to design for technology that doesn't exist. Then the Kinect was introduced to them and they realized how compatible it is with their vision.

My biggest takeaway from the podcast is that they were able to achieve near one to one accuracy with Kinect. The delay, as slight as it is, was deliberately programmed to encourage the players to play with smooth sweeping motions. That bodes well for the future of Kinect

 

[STG]

what exactly do I need to do to unlock all the garden stuff, just played one stage in hard mode and it had 'new' version of one of the garden items, but only one

how do I get the other ones? :I

 

[H3rTz DoNuT]

what exactly do I need to do to unlock all the garden stuff, just played one stage in hard mode and it had 'new' version of one of the garden items, but only one

how do I get the other ones? :I

You can replay each archives as many times as you want, even on normal to collect all the items. They basically are awarded just for beating the archive. Once you picked one it will never show up in the rewards window again at the end of the stage, so every time you beat the archive you get something new

 

[STG]

well thank you good sir!

 

[Reluctant-Hero]

Damn, the third archive s kicking my ass.

 

[blizzardjesus]

Got to experience COE last night, it was also the first time I tried kinect. Saying I was blown away is an understatement. Reminded me of the first time I played samba de amgo in the arcade. I love it when a game feels more than a game.
I don't think my arm has ever been this sore...more than worth it.

 

[Neuromancer]

It's good to see that Kinect is capable of being much more responsive. Look at how responsive the cursor is on the title screen compared to the dashboard alone. Great stuff.

Part of it is you don't have to hover your hand over the option you want for nearly as long, also the menus are much more streamlined.

 

[Quicksilver4648]

So, the reviews and impressions for this game have been excellent. The problem? I don't own a Kinect or Child of Eden. I am thinking about picking them up but I am looking for the best deals. Best Buy is selling a Kinect for $150 but you then get a $25 gift card and Toys R Us is selling Child of Eden for $40. Does anyone know of any other better deals?

 

[Neuromancer]

So, the reviews and impressions for this game have been excellent. The problem? I don't own a Kinect or Child of Eden. I am thinking about picking them up but I am looking for the best deals. Best Buy is selling a Kinect for $150 but you then get a $25 gift card and Toys R Us is selling Child of Eden for $40. Does anyone know of any other better deals?

Toys R Us is definitely the best deal for CoE that I'm aware of. That Best Buy deal sounds very good too.

 

[FrankT]

Perfect pack in for Kinect in the fall really. I'm sure they would rather go with a first party but whatever.

 

[Untracked]

I'm really struggling towards the end of Archive 5. Not exactly sure what I'm supposed to be doing. The Boss health bar isn't going down, I must be missing something...

 

[STG]

enough for now, my thumb is hurting from all that press, hold, release action

it is REZ all over again, I love this pain :>

 

[Doodis]

I'm really struggling towards the end of Archive 5. Not exactly sure what I'm supposed to be doing. The Boss health bar isn't going down, I must be missing something...

Check out saunderez's post earlier up with the spoilers blocked out. Explains what you have to do.

 

[LiK]

Got 5 stars and over 800k in Matrix. Part of the club with Wario now. ^^

 

[Untracked]

Check out saunderez's post earlier up with the spoilers blocked out. Explains what you have to do.

I figured it out but thanks anyway.

Just finished Archive 5... wow.

 

[Deleted member 22576]

Getting very familiar with the game now. It is such a worthy successor in every way. Fucking amazing game. I'm legitimately surprised how good it is.

 

[Neuromancer]

So I just beat the game and unlocked some

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Prologue level or something. Where do I find it

? thanks.

 

[Phonomezer]

Got 5 stars and over 800k in Matrix. Part of the club with Wario now. ^^

Fuck, I keep getting 99%... I have no idea what I keep missing, I have a feeling it's one of those annoying little octopus things

Only 600K too, any tips for scoring?

 

[Neuromancer]

How do you unlock the other 2 visual modes? Are any of them any good? The first one just seems to be

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negative, not very exciting.

 

[7echnicolor]

Ok so I'm #2 on the overall leaderboards in Matrix Normal (Controller).
I have 1,119,800 pts and 5 stars. How much points do you have to get for a freaking gold star?!

 

[bubnbob]

Ok so I'm #2 on the overall leaderboards in Matrix Normal (Controller).
I have 1,119,800 pts and 5 stars. How much points do you have to get for a freaking gold star?!

You need 100% Purify and 800k+ for Gold

 

[kiryogi]

Curious. Does the 800k apply to controller or is it also kinect?

 

[Opus Angelorum]

Perfect pack in for Kinect in the fall really. I'm sure they would rather go with a first party but whatever.

Microsoft should have made this an exclusive, it seems to be the perfect Kinect advertisement.

 

[Phonomezer]

Well I figured out what I have to do to get 800K/1mil+ on Matrix, I was using the rapid fire rather than the lock on for the boss, herp.

 

[goldenpp72]

Curious. Does the 800k apply to controller or is it also kinect?

What do you mean, can it be done on either? the requirements are the same for both.

I just gold starred level 1 on hard, this game is insanely frustrating when you constantly miss 1 percent.. I haven't even begun levels 3/4/5 on normal for score, lol.

 

[Untracked]

I'm so impressed with Kinect on this game. After watching Microsoft's E3 Conference I was sure I'd never buy one, all the games they showed put me off (specifically the Star Wars lunge towards enemy stuff). I said things like "it's for casuals" or "it's taken the skill out of gaming".
I actually find Child of Eden easier to control and more responsive using Kinect than with a pad.
I'm amazed!
Also, Heavenly Star (Glorious remix?) could quite possibly be the most infectious tune I've ever heard. I cannot get it out of my head. Is there a soundtrack I can buy anywhere?

 

[TheChewyWaffles]

Pretty interesting game, but it's a pain standing the entire time with the Kinect.

 

[Phonomezer]

I was able to use it sitting down, but I hade to put a CD rack behind my tv and put the kinect on top so it was tilting downwards at me.

Feels pretty strange doing it sitting down, it's a lot more natural playing this game standing.