dripdripsplash
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She said absolutely nothing in Kong.
Like why was she even there...
Like why was she even there...
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Chinese actress gets big Hollywood roles, No one knows why
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FinaruDensetsu
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Why do movies have random scenes in China for no reason?
yeah, its weird, since that show also has some really great actors in it. Altough I guess that guys like Harrington and Madden have some stage credit. Do have to say that Clarke's and Harrington's characters are pretty boring compared to lets say, the material a Theon can work with. Funny thing is that I'm actually not that bothered anymore by Sophie Turner's acting (some progress there) but whenever Emilia Clarke enters the frame my eyes tend to roll back until the scene is done.
Here, I think its less about her and more about the way Hollywood is being affected by China's growing market. I don't see what the big deal is, but some people seem to get really bothered.
Not really, his movies aimed more towards women like The Vow, Step up, Dear John, etc. Always did bank. With him basically blowing up with Magic Mike and 21 Jump Street.
Worthington and Kitsch on the other hand, one got blessed by the magic Cameron touch than disappeared and the other basically went from not even supporting roles to leading three.
ClosingADoor
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Looking at her IMDB, she has been 3 Hollywood productions. Over 2 years (2 this year, 1 next). This is perfectly normal. They are trying to make her a star, it probably won't work, but we see this all the time, where an actor or actress is suddenly in a few large movies after each other. If this were an actor, we would be saying he had good management for getting him those roles with little actual acting skills.
She has 3 Hollywood roles - The Great Wall, Kong Skull Island, and Pacific Rim 2. They were all cast within a 6 month window. One movie came out at the end of last year. One movie just came out. The last one is still filming. Out of the two films released, she is a supporting role with speaking lines in one of them, and she is a minor role with almost no lines in the other. Is this a case of people attempting to manufacture a star with bit roles in bigger films and probably failing? Sure. Is this some weird thing to get suspicious of when she doesn't have a single lead role in these films? No.
Damn I got owned on this. Yeah, credit where credit's due. He's no Sam Worthington lol.
SomedayTheFire
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tbf not like JLo did much in film especially big budget films and Taylor Lautner was in one relatively low budget series that spiralled upwards. He's getting the least acting gigs out of twilight alums for a reason.
he was gr8 in scream queens tho
Gotta get that Chinese demographic to show up to theaters somehow!
I wish people would figure this out and jai Courtney.
FinaruDensetsu
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Jing Tian has had even less gigs than that. But yet money laundering conspiracy abounds. It makes no sense.
Was going to say, it's no different than Kitsch who went from a supporting role in Wolverine Origins, to leading Battleship, some other big ass bomb, and that one where the two dudes are drug dealers and tag teaming the same girl.
I really don't remember the names of the films and don't want to look them up right now.
They want an actor that can appeal to both Chinese and American audiences is all. Manufacture as all hell, but it happens all the time in Hollywood.
Looking through it now, but Nicholas Spark movies had, Gosling, Hemsworth, Tanning, and Efron all in the beginning of the decade.
DarthMasta
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Guys, make up your damn mind.
You want to have Asians starring in Hollywood blockbusters? There will need to be Asian movie stars. She's young, pretty, I assume can act, if she was white nobody would be scratching their head going "How can this be?"...
You want to have Asians starring in Hollywood blockbusters? There will need to be Asian movie stars. She's young, pretty, I assume can act, if she was white nobody would be scratching their head going "How can this be?"...
SomedayTheFire
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agreed. stupid "conspiracy" shit, really. duckroll got it right just above my post.
DiipuSurotu
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?? She looks her age.
Like, I know that's the reason she's there but they could've given her a real role or something.
It honestly felt like at the last minute they said, "oh by the way, we need you guys to write a new character" so they kinda just put her in the background.
dripdripsplash
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Naah man. The thing is she can't act.
Did you read the OP ? She has won two out of three 'Most Dissapointing Actor' prizes.
hurricanes
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I see both of you only looked at English sites. She was cast as major characters in Chinese cinema and TV shows before the Hollywood part. The 2011 "The Warring States" cast her as the lead female character flopped hard.(I think 80 million yuan gross vs 150 million budget) and that is only one of the many flops... yet she got cast again. Again and again.
perfectchaos007
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To make it in Hollywood, the most important thing is attractiveness. Next most important thing is acting chops. If you aren't attractive or a good actor, you better be funny. If you're none of these things, you won't get many roles and you'll never get a staring role. You may be able to hack it as an extra, but you'll need lots of work to make a living wage.
ClosingADoor
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So have Halle Berry, Demi Moore, Jennifer Lopez, Sandra Bullock and Cameron Diaz. Not all the greatest actresses, but I have heard nothing about money laundering conspiracies behind their roles.
SomedayTheFire
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leo dicaprio has a razzie, they're not exactly a high bar to judge actors. hell, technically he has two for one film!!
ScarJo gonna lose her job soon. RIP.
DarthMasta
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I've never seen any of her work, so I don't know, somebody else's "Can't act" can be my "Fine".
Still, lots of bad white actors got a shot at being big, don't see what's so strange when a Chinese actress gets it, especially now with China actually being relevant to the business.
Which, BTW is how I think you'll get movies with representation, once studios understand they can make money with it...
hurricanes
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LMAO. A flop with a famous actress is definitely the same as multiple flops with a c-list. Because studios is known to throw away money with someone that has a track record of losing them money.
If you don't want to engage with actual conversations on this topic. Suit yourself.
Serpentine
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Oh! Yeah, she was cool in that so she's cool by me
ignoring her nothing part in Police Story 2013 tho
andythinkpad
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No one know why as in no one has figured out she has tie to which political figure. There is obviously some one pulling the string for her in the background.
This is not a simple case of Zhang Yimou likes her or she has tie to some rich guy like Jack Ma.
This is not a simple case of Zhang Yimou likes her or she has tie to some rich guy like Jack Ma.
maybe she's more prominent in the china version of the film? don't some films do that now? iron man 3 comes to mind
ClosingADoor
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I don't know all the budgets for these movies, but both Police Stories 2013 and From Vegas to Macau seem to have made almost $100 million at the Chinese box office. How is that a track record of losing money, when there are clear successes there also?
chromatic9
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Seems the same as always. Actor gets a push and do they stick or fade into obscurity. Should a nondescript American based actor get the part or something?
If Hollywood wants to champion diversity and mock others then they're going to have to concede roles.
If Hollywood wants to champion diversity and mock others then they're going to have to concede roles.
Don't think they have an alternate cut for this one, but I'm sure our friend here who's an expert will tell us all about it if there is, and how they spent 50 million on the extra scenes only to have it all be wasted because she's a FLOP FLOP FLOP. We must get to the bottom of this VERY SERIOUS OUTRAGE. How dare an actress not be ejected from the industry after failing to make money for a studio. D-list slut probably slept with everyone in the production!
Sorry, got carried away there. Carry on.
Kitsch starred on a popular show, where he got quite a bit of attention. Produced by Battleship director Peter Berg to boot. He was mainly lucky that Battleship and Carter got delayed enough to get him another lead role.
Oh, yeah, fair enough
She's not even that attractive lol
Mr. Giggles
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I know why but I'm not going to tell GAF because I want GAF to suffer.
He's forgivable. His dance number in Hail Caesar was pretty impressive.
PdotMichael
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Can't wait till a Korean actress makes a big breakthrough
I don... What was the topic again?
hurricanes
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She was not cast as a main In those films.. She would have to be something magical if could pan a hit series by just being part of it. Her flops are her major roles, "Glory of Tang Dynasty" panned critically and commercially
I see your imagination has run very wild indeed. There are plenty of Chinese actresses who 1. can't act and 2. Has a cute face and doesn't get the "she must have someone behind her" reputation she got. And I don't think anyone in this thread is accusing her to sleep with anyone to get roles. This is on you.
ClosingADoor
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She is also not cast as the main in Kong. Don't know the extend of her role in The Great Wall and Pacific Rim 2, but she is not the main character in either.
And again, it's not like this stuff doesn't happen all the time. Beauty + connections = easier time in Hollywood. But for some reason, in this case there is a "conspiracy" behind it, while for the likes of Emilia Clarke and others we have no problem with it.
I'm not sure why this is a story? Jing Tian definitely has business connections with Legendary. They are the reason she's in 3 Hollywood films because Legendary is now a Chinese company. So? Fan Bingbing was in Iron Man 3 and DoFP. Li Bingbing was in RE: Retribution and Transformers 4. This is something that happens.
So... for about a year?
Mentioning Fan Bingbing in one breath with those two.
Meet me outside.
hurricanes
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She's the lead female in the movie as far as I know. Though I would have bet that the movie would flop anyway with or without her.
The point is: She kept getting roles that mostly go to famous actors while not being famous or earning the company money. Thus rumor about "knowing important people".
Duckroll insists making everyone who agree with the rumor sexists who "witch hunt" her for being "sluts".
videogamephilosopher
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Her split kick in special id was....nice.
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