See I'm in agreement with all of that. I'm just saying to give the notion that Superman's history / story is VERY well known with young adults isn't correct anymore. There is plenty of blame to go around. Hell, if I didn't get into comics at all and never watched the Superman: TAS I would know absolutely nothing to this date about the character.MisterHero said:
Christopher Nolan is back for Batman 3 and is "mentoring" a Superman reboot
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I'd like to see Giovanni Ribisi play a villian in the next Batman movie. He's a great actor. Check out these scenes:
The Gift - Directed By Sam Raimi
Saving Private Ryan
The Gift - Directed By Sam Raimi
Saving Private Ryan
MisterHero
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Fair enough. The only reason I got into Superman in the first place was because my parents bought me VHS copies of the Fleischer cartoons when I was little. :lolSanjuro Tsubaki said:
Now that does make me wonder; how do kids get exposed to characters like Superman these days? For example, did the abstract Teen Titans cartoon really translate into new readers?
However, this is not the thread for such shenanigans!Like I said, some kids do know.Wrath2X said:
If I rounded up ten kids ages 5-10 of all different upbringings. Possibly one or two at BEST would be able to answer,
A. What is the real name of Superman?
B. What is the name of his planet?
C. Who is his main adversary?
D. What is the newspaper he works for?
E. Who is the photographer, lead reporter, and editor for that newspaper?
F. Name me one other major villain he faces?
In my case if it wasn't for Batman I would only be able to answer question A.
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DMczaf said:How is Avatar trolling me? I guess you need every "win" you can get after my year of Quantum of Solace
Don't worry, I'm sure Martin Campbell will bail you guys out agai....oh wait, he's with us now!
What the hell are you guys talking about?
DMczaf said:How is Avatar trolling me? I guess you need every "win" you can get after my year of Quantum of Solace
Don't worry, I'm sure Martin Campbell will bail you guys out agai....oh wait, he's with us now!
:lol
On a sidenote: Campbell is much older than I thought. He's gonna be 70 this year.
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Sanjuro Tsubaki said:
As long as they know he's invincible, they got the base covered already.
Also, they might know about 'the stuff' that Superman can't touch. But for the love of god, don't ask a kid a bunch of useless trivia that they wouldn't even want to know about, even if they could.
But then again: why bother making a Superman movie for kids to begin with?
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Sanjuro Tsubaki said:
for kids between 5 and 10 they are. And that was what you were talking about.
Furthermore: what's the name of the franchise again? (this is a hint, just in case you missed it *superobvious wink* )
I'm using them as an example. The Superman franchise is marketed towards a mostly male audience of all ages and children are certainly a very important part of this.Zeitgeister said:
The only exposure he has gotten in the 90s forward have been...
Superboy
Lois and Clark
DCAU
Smallville
Superman Returns.
None of the live action versions really nailed the heart and soul of the character. Lois and Clark is probably the height of Superman's popularity with a mass audience in two decades.
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Mengy said:
Why not make the movie in a way that Superman can be hurt in more of an emotional way. Say for instance, after having to make a big moral choice which still lead to people killed.
He is super, but he can't be in 2 places at once.
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Or when Daniel Craig becomes Batman. Also, what is with all the aussie news sites claiming Sam Worthington is being touted to replace Craig as Bond? :lol
We sure like to toot our own horn at even the idea. :lol
Penguin said:When will the Solo/DM feud finally end?
Will they call a truce in the name of our true Lord....
She will be back.
Yes, I can't wait for the next installment of watching some stuntman in tight leather for 70%, poor CG for 25% and Halle Berry for the remaining 5% of Catwoman's screentime.
Nolan shouldn't waste his time with Superman, unless they finally ditch the origin story style and go straight into him fighting intergalactic shit. If it focuses on him being affected by kryptonite again I will not be seeing it, shits old as fuck.
On another note, I'd like to see less origin stories in the future and actually take these franchises somewhere please. And filling the last third of your origin story with making them lose their powers to show their human side has become much too old and cliche to really work anymore without seeming hammy :/
On another note, I'd like to see less origin stories in the future and actually take these franchises somewhere please. And filling the last third of your origin story with making them lose their powers to show their human side has become much too old and cliche to really work anymore without seeming hammy :/
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DMczaf said:I like how just the "rumor" (pretty obvious this was leaked on purpose) of Nolan working on Batman 3 and Superman has killed Sony's Spider-Man 3D announcement.
"Always mind your surroundings, Sony"
Joe Blow on the street has no idea this stuff is happening. Somehow I doubt Sony or WB is panicing over these developments.
Put any cahracter in primary colors and slap a PG rating on it and parents will take their kids to see it.
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Me too, jett, me too.
:lol :lol :lolDMczaf said:How is Avatar trolling me? I guess you need every "win" you can get after my year of Quantum of Solace
Don't worry, I'm sure Martin Campbell will bail you guys out agai....oh wait, he's with us now!
Game set match to DM.
Solo never had a chance, it all started out with lowballing TDK.
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You forgot that his death was a huge deal. But yeah, both the comics and Lois and Clark provided the next evolution for his character: getting married.Sanjuro Tsubaki said:
I would've said that the Chris Kent storyline would've been a big step for Superman this decade but they screwed that up (in my opinion).
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The problem with the Superman films, IMHO, is a severe lack of definitive action. Here's a man who's stronger than anything else, and supposedly as fast as The Flash, but mostly they show him floating around and blowing on things.
This is gonna sound awful, but... they should take a page out of Dragon Ball Z. An intense, high-flying battle with rapid-fire action that you can "feel" would be more satisfying than him just lifting and throwing things. At least Spider-Man had scenes like that...
(For the record, I read Superman for several years in the '90s.)
This is gonna sound awful, but... they should take a page out of Dragon Ball Z. An intense, high-flying battle with rapid-fire action that you can "feel" would be more satisfying than him just lifting and throwing things. At least Spider-Man had scenes like that...
(For the record, I read Superman for several years in the '90s.)
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Action scenes in Superman need to be like the airplane scene in Returns. The dude is practically immortal and we know he isn't going to be killed even if you stick kryptonite up his ass. he lifted a mountain of the shit in Returns. that was retarded.
Make it more about the urgency of a situation, like the plane crash, or several disasters going on at once. Even a one on one fight against another super powered enemy would be a bit boring if that was the only focus. Brainiac would be the most obvious choice from a villain because he could cover both the "dudes duking it out" and causing shit to go wrong all over the place.
and +1 to bring Routh back. Just don't make his hair so weird in this one.
Make it more about the urgency of a situation, like the plane crash, or several disasters going on at once. Even a one on one fight against another super powered enemy would be a bit boring if that was the only focus. Brainiac would be the most obvious choice from a villain because he could cover both the "dudes duking it out" and causing shit to go wrong all over the place.
and +1 to bring Routh back. Just don't make his hair so weird in this one.
I think the Supermanmovie should bring him some big guns: Bizarro, Doomsday, Lex Luthor in a powersuit or something like that. In the meanwhile, have Guy Ritchie do his Lobo-movie to establish the character among the movie-going crowd and get a big-ass Superman vs Batman vs Lobo movie confrontation.
The way I see that: Superman goes mental after the battle in the now upcoming movie and Batman is called in to set him straight. Meanwhile, Superman's actions have attracted the attention of alien lawenforcement and they call in Lobo to capture Supes. Now Batman needs to set Superman straight, not to save Metropolis, but Earth itself, because that crazy mofo is bringing the smackdown HARD and only Superman has a fighting chance against the blue bountyhunter.
The way I see that: Superman goes mental after the battle in the now upcoming movie and Batman is called in to set him straight. Meanwhile, Superman's actions have attracted the attention of alien lawenforcement and they call in Lobo to capture Supes. Now Batman needs to set Superman straight, not to save Metropolis, but Earth itself, because that crazy mofo is bringing the smackdown HARD and only Superman has a fighting chance against the blue bountyhunter.
I'm sticking mainly to popular media. I'm a fan of comics, but realistically even then it still amounted for a very small portion of the audiences in comparison. However you are correct. If there is one Superman story that received any sort of attention this was it. Problem is other than actual death of the character people remember very little about what caused it and the aftermath. Even Smallville is small potatoes to Lois and Clark.MisterHero said:
In my opinion they should do the origin again. They could easily adapt it to better explain the introduction to another villain rather than just throw one at you. Doing this gives you proper time to develop Clark and even a backstory with Lex setting the tone for future installments. You can't do a reboot and leave this out.
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