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Chuck versus the NeoGAF - The Official Season 4 Thread - Mondays on NBC

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TheOddOne

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Solo said:
Outside of the segments with Rye, which were fucking excellent and hilarious, this one didn't do much for me. I've had about enough of the Chuck-is-helpless-and-needs-Sarah's-help/Sarah-doesn't-think-Chuck-is-a-real-spy/Chuck-is-butthurt-because-Sarah-doesn't-think-he-is-a-real-spy plots in this series. Its the fourth season now, yet every single one has had a variation of this, and its tiresome. Im also starting to finally realize that Zachary Levi has about all of 2 or 3 facial expressions.

- Intersect testing at the start with the scientists? Uber cheesy
- I approve of Sarah’s red bra
- Summer Glau still can’t act
- Intersect testing with Rye? Much better :lol :lol :lol
- more “special” effects :lol OMG so fucking terrible the greenscreen is in this show
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Not gonna change, thats the heart of the show.
 
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Wads

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Apoc29 said:
It had to be done.

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Wow, singling it out like that. Doesn't take too much imagination! ;)
 
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Shouta

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Man, Summer Glau looked good in this episode. I usually think she looks kinda freaky but she was really hot this time around. Goddamn amazing what wardrobe, make-up, and not having to do android warmachines faces does for you!
 
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TheOddOne

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Shouta said:
Man, Summer Glau looked good in this episode. I usually think she looks kinda freaky but she was really hot this time around. Goddamn amazing what wardrobe, make-up, and not having to do android warmachines faces does for you!
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The stripper highheels also helped.
 
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Solo

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TheOddOne said:
Not gonna change, thats the heart of the show.
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It was back in S1 and about halfway through S2, yes, but the show should have evolved past that like Chuck evolved beyond being completely useless. But no, the writers won't let it go. As much as I love Fedak and Schwartz for creating the show, I hate them just as much for their insistence on continually infusing the show with these same elements (relationship drama and/or angst and Chuck is a real spy - or not). The show really should have moved beyond this stuff a while ago. Its a big reason that, despite this season being better than S3, Im not enjoying it any more than I did S3.
 
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CzarTim

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That's a problem with most shows like this. The writers get into a group-think mentality and can't escape the themes established during the first few seasons. Everyone tries to recapture the best part of the early season with little thought on how to move the story forward.

This is why most shows shouldn't be allowed to last more than 40 episodes.
 
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TheOddOne

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Solo said:
It was back in S1 and about halfway through S2, yes, but the show should have evolved past that like Chuck evolved beyond being completely useless. But no, the writers won't let it go. As much as I love Fedak and Schwartz for creating the show, I hate them just as much for their insistence on continually infusing the show with these same elements (relationship drama and/or angst and Chuck is a real spy - or not). The show really should have moved beyond this stuff a while ago. Its a big reason that, despite this season being better than S3, Im not enjoying it any more than I did S3.
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Chuck was having some progress though, but I agree the writers clinge too much on the tried and true formula.
 
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Cornballer

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Solo said:
It was back in S1 and about halfway through S2, yes, but the show should have evolved past that like Chuck evolved beyond being completely useless.
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I agree to some extent, though it hasn't really pushed me to the point of enjoying the show a lot less. Sepinwall also brought up a good point about Chuck being a good spy (sort of) in the past even before he had the Intersect 2.0:
But Chuck had his uses in the first few years beyond the Intersect data, and some of the show's more memorable plot resolutions involved Chuck saving the day in spite of his utter lack of training, whether stopping a bomb with a porn spam virus or bluffing Michael Clarke Duncan with his battle plan from Call of Duty. The one thing the show and/or Chuck himself lost with the addition of the Chuck Fu was that - not just the comedy of it, but the idea that Chuck had things to contribute beyond the computer in his head. And once the series finally went down the "superhero loses his powers" well, I hoped we might get reminded of that.
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Granted, they couldn't lean on the Chuck-is-an-unconventional-spy and have him use geek skills to get them out of trouble indefinitely (again, there would be a lack of progression in the character), but having him end up being completely useless w/o Intersect 2.0 isn't the right way to go, either. Hopefully he gets the Intersect (however it may have been modified by his mom's device) back and running soon.
 
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Cornballer

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Just a reminder that Zachary Levi is on Fallon tonight:
ChuckTV.net said:
Zachary Levi appears on Late Night with Jimmy Fallon tonight (November 18) on NBC. He’s there to promote Tangled, but maybe he’ll let some Chuck intel slip.
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Woffls

Woffls

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I'm really not enjoying watching this show any more. It has gotten so formulaic and reliant on the same tricks, I expect this will be the last season, so hopefully they'll think up something interesting to end it with. Unless things change drastically, like getting rid of the god damn Buy More and all the characters associated with it.
 
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GDJustin

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Woffls said:
I'm really not enjoying watching this show any more. It has gotten so formulaic and reliant on the same tricks, I expect this will be the last season, so hopefully they'll think up something interesting to end it with. Unless things change drastically, like getting rid of the god damn Buy More and all the characters associated with it.
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Kind of agreed. I recognize that by most objective measures this season is superior to season 3... but I'm pretty much over Chuck at this point. I just don't care about the overall arc.
 
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bathala

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NBC is getting annoying with their product placement. 1st it was their Days of our lives, and now this.

like the cliffhanger ending
 
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gdt

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Good episode, BOSS ending.

Yeah, I'm not in absolute love with this show like I was during S1/2 (especially 2), but no biggie. I still very much enjoy it.

Side note, my S1 BRD came in today :D . I'll order S2/3 soon as possible.

New to BRDs (only have LOST, which look unbelievable), how are the Chuck BRDs?
 
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Cornballer

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- Chuck versus the Podcast #73
“Chuck vs the Fear of Death” was a fun, intense ride… and Mel caught up with Chuck executive producer and Fear of Death director Robert Duncan McNeill to talk all about it!

Hear also details about the very real possibility of a crossover between Chuck and another of your favorite shows, enlightening and insightful listener emails, details about a very nerdy convention, and much more!
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PhoncipleBone

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Medalion said:
Every episode is an Yvonne showcase...this show needs to be renamed Sarah, not Chuck :lol
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Hey, I started the Yvonne Night trend last week. It is my mission to recruit more to the cause.

Granted, there is nothing wrong at all with Chuck Day. I always look forward to it. It is something the wife and I can both share in. But Yvonne Night is just for me.:D
 
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Solo

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Slow week.... looks like Dexter and Chuck are the only two shows I watch which are on this week. Goddamned US Thanksgiving!
 
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gdt

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Solo said:
Slow week.... looks like Dexter and Chuck are the only two shows I watch which are on this week. Goddamned US Thanksgiving!
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No Walking Dead? Boardwalk Empire? Sons of Anarchy? Terriers? Step it up!
 
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gdt

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Solo said:
Zombies, lol
Waiting for the BD release for Boardwalk (only watched the pilot)
Bikers, lol
Terriers, cancelled
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Zombies...we talked about that!
BE...okay.
Bikers....give it a shot! I'm not into bikes either.
Terriers...even if it's cancelled, it's still fantastic. Better than Justified, which I enjoyed alot.
 
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Cornballer

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Zachary Levi is on Conan tonight.
Solo said:
Waiting for the BD release for Boardwalk (only watched the pilot)
Terriers, cancelled
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Be sure to check out Terriers when the DVD/BRDs are out - it's the best new show this Fall. Boardwalk Empire has been great, too.
 
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Tashi

343i Lead Esports Producer
Cornballer said:
Zachary Levi is on Conan tonight.
Be sure to check out Terriers when the DVD/BRDs are out - it's the best new show this Fall. Boardwalk Empire has been great, too.
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Oh nice! It should be a hilarious interview
 
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Cornballer

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Word on the street is that tonight's episode is TV-14 rather than the usual TV-PG that Chuck gets, so I guess they're upping the violence this evening?
 
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ConfusingJazz

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Cornballer said:
Word on the street is that tonight's episode is TV-14 rather than the usual TV-PG that Chuck gets, so I guess they're upping the violence this evening?
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I am hoping they are upping the Yvonne. I am pretty sure you can lop a man's head off and still get a TV-PG at this point.
 
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Cornballer

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ConfusingJazz said:
I am hoping they are upping the Yvonne. I am pretty sure you can lop a man's head off and still get a TV-PG at this point.
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I wouldn't mind that, though they've pushed the limits with Strahovski before, and I'm not sure how much more leeway they have to work with when it comes to her attire.
 
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ConfusingJazz

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Cornballer said:
I wouldn't mind that, though they've pushed the limits with Strahovski before, and I'm not sure how much more leeway they have to work with when it comes to her attire.
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Actually, they have pretty much reached the limits acceptable in broadcast tv when it comes to how much skin she is showing. They might be able to do more suggestive actions, but that's about it.
 
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