Circana July 2025: #1 College Football #2 EA Sports MVP Bundle #3 Donkey Kong Bananza ; Switch 2 LTD ~2.08M (~480K in July), PS5 #2 Units + Rev

adamsapple said:
Correct.

Kepler Interactive (the publisher) is not an NPD/Circana partner, they don't report sales.




Not entirely accurate, in the comparable things we can track (the UK physical sales and JP sales), it's behind DS1.

We don't know the complete digital comparison between the two.
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LordOcidax said:
The user base of PS5 is around 75M, plus is the big PS exclusive game of the year… There's no excuse, the game flopped hard.
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Kacho said:
They don't provide sales data iirc. adamsapple adamsapple I need an adult
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We shall see in the end of the year. But I'm pretty sure the sales numbers will suffice and the game was already profitable for a so called "niche game". For a game that is very much hated by bitter and jealous pc, nintendo, and xbox fans just because its not multiplatform at launch, and also by Kojima haters and against Nintendo Switch 2 launch period, DS2 July numbers is still a win.
 
DenchDeckard said:
69.....

Big console declines all around. Switch 2 is luckily here to save the day.
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Now the big question is are things going to get better or worse for Nintendo when they unleash their Pokémon bundle over the holidays? To some around here, this answer is easy. To others whose narratives are being rekt daily...they have to perform mental gymnastics to continue down their rabbit holes of denial.
 
yogaflame said:
We shall see in the end of the year. But I'm pretty sure the sales numbers will suffice and the game was already profitable for a so called "niche game". For a game that is very much hated by bitter and jealous pc, nintendo, and xbox fans just because its not multiplatform at launch, and also by Kojima haters and against Nintendo Switch 2 launch period, DS2 July numbers is still a win.
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I don't know why you called this game "niche" when the game has all the ingredients that the PlayStation fanbase likes… story driven, gorgeous graphics, exclusive and the beloved Kojima. On the paper is a winning formula. What's the issue here?
 
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Nothing really standing out to me here. I could care less how well DS2 is selling. I thought the game was fantastic and I don't need a part 3.

LordOcidax said:
I don't know why you called this game "niche" when the game has all the ingredients that the PlayStation fanbase likes… story driven, gorgeous graphics, exclusive and the beloved Kojima. On the paper is a winning formula.
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Yea but the gameplay is niche as hell which you conveniently left out because you know this already.
 
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LakeOf9 said:
Talent always wins
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Understand Captain America GIF
 
It's funny to see Mario Kart World below Mario Kart 8 in physical sales haha.

Happy to see strong launches for Tony Hawk, DK and Grounded 2.
owandeseis said:
Is Switch 2 eating from the other consoles cake then or something released last year that made numbers go up compared to 2025?
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Last year had the rebirth of College Football, which was current gen exclusive. PS5 went up 25% and Xbox Series went up 48%. This year's College Football didn't have that effect.
 
mayham2199 said:
Nothing really standing out to me here. I could care less how well DS2 is selling. I thought the game was fantastic and I don't need a part 3.



Yea but the gameplay is niche as hell which you conveniently left out because you know this already.
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The gameplay is above mediocre, but the technical aspects of the game are top notch, and before that was the most important aspect for the PS user base. It looks like that those audience moved to PC. I can see DS2 doing great on PC.
 
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Kacho said:
Yeah, not dunking on Yoga here, but DK cracked the top 20 with a fraction of the user base.
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Ds2 is a niche game, I admit that, but it is still an impressive number and will get better as we approach end of the year. I think even Kojima never expected a 5 to 10 million numbers at launch for Ds2. I think 2 million worldwide right now is decent enough. Anyway what matters is the game beautiful, very based, none of that woke twisted gender ideology crap and one of the best game this era.

Don't get me wrong, DKB is a great game, one of the top contenders for game of the year. DK was 100% expected to top the charts. DK is one of the most well loved franchise in history of gaming, just like Mario for Nintendo, or Halo for Xbox or GOW for Sony, nothing can beat that. Add to that Nintendo is the goat right now, the home for true exclusives especially beloved franchise games like Mario, Pokemon, DK, etc. While PS is losing so many fans and alienating many PS owners, for porting exclusives to other platforms, not to mention PS exclusives are so few in this Ps5 era. And worse, Sony focusing on woke infested gaas instead of reviving beloved Sony IP.
 
LordOcidax said:
The gameplay is above mediocre, but the technical aspects of the game are top notch, and before that was the most importan aspect for the PS user base. It looks like that those audience moved to PC. I can see DS2 doing great on PC.
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Being Ps5 exclusive will suffice. Ds1 directors cut on PC and steam are not very good. It will just turned into another spiderman 2, and horizon lego. PC port will just be a risk and add expenses to Sony and Kojima team.The Ps5 numbers will suffice and Kojima team and Sony will just move on to there next gen project which is Physint.
 
yogaflame said:
Ds2 is a niche game
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Dude, this is pure cope and I say that with love and respect for you. People only started calling it niche when it was obvious it underperformed. Yes, it's "niche" compared to Assassin's Creed but it's not "niche" like Silent Hill or Everybody's Golf. It's a big budget sequel made by Kojima exclusive to PlayStation where the majority of his fanbase is. The game flopped because people weren't interested. It is what it is.
 
Kacho said:
Yeah, not dunking on Yoga here, but DK cracked the top 20 with a fraction of the user base.
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The userbase is always a bad excuse. Games sell consoles, not the other way around. People don't just buy consoles and sit around waiting for games, they buy them when games they're interested in are available.

Games like Zelda, Mario, or Spider-Man are system sellers. Death Stranding clearly isn't.
 
Kacho said:
Dude, this is pure cope and I say that with love and respect for you. People only started calling it niche when it was obvious it underperformed. Yes, it's "niche" compared to Assassin's Creed but it's not "niche" like Silent Hill or Everybody's Golf. It's a big budget sequel made by Kojima exclusive to PlayStation where the majority of his fanbase is. The game flopped because people weren't interested. It is what it is.
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Exactly, the game has all the elements to be a huge PS franchise.
 
Nintendo proved that you don't need a very powerful console and those RTGI and Path tracing gimmick to succeed. Along with fun gameplay, what is important is Nintendo stayed with there principle on exclusivity. Staying with that principle on exclusivity whether the game sell or not, made Nintendo successful and very much loved by there fans throughout the year. This is what MS xbox and Sony PS does not understand right now.
 
switch performing at this level in the west should be an eye opening thing for sony. Unlike the Wii to Wii U situation, nintendo is seeing the same success SO FAR that they saw with the first switch, which put them at 150 M+ units. We shall see if it continues, but switch 2 is blowing away all expectation especially at a $449/$499 price point.
 
leo-j said:
switch performing at this level in the west should be an eye opening thing for sony. Unlike the Wii to Wii U situation, nintendo is seeing the same success SO FAR that they saw with the first switch, which put them at 150 M+ units. We shall see if it continues, but switch 2 is blowing away all expectation especially at a $449/$499 price point.
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Never mind the same success +75% increases Gen on Gen!!!!
 
Kacho said:
Dude, this is pure cope and I say that with love and respect for you. People only started calling it niche when it was obvious it underperformed. Yes, it's "niche" compared to Assassin's Creed but it's not "niche" like Silent Hill or Everybody's Golf. It's a big budget sequel made by Kojima exclusive to PlayStation where the majority of his fanbase is. The game flopped because people weren't interested. It is what it is.
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It's definitely Everybody's Golf tier, a 3-4M range series while Death Stranding sold 4.3M units on PS4 in a bit over two years (and months after a permanent price cut to $40). The concern trolling is cute for a little bit, but let's not pretend otherwise.
 
nial said:
It's definitely Everybody's Golf tier, a 3-4M range series while Death Stranding sold 4.3M units on PS4 in a bit over two years (and months after a permanent price cut to $40). The concern trolling is cute for a little bit, but let's not pretend otherwise.
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Everybody's Golf will not sell anywhere close to 3-4 million.
 
Kacho said:
Dude, this is pure cope and I say that with love and respect for you. People only started calling it niche when it was obvious it underperformed. Yes, it's "niche" compared to Assassin's Creed but it's not "niche" like Silent Hill or Everybody's Golf. It's a big budget sequel made by Kojima exclusive to PlayStation where the majority of his fanbase is. The game flopped because people weren't interested. It is what it is.
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From the start, I know DS is a niche game. Even Ds1 was called a niche when it was release. I don't even like it when Ds1 was announced but I became curious and tried it, and I was shock that I enjoyed Ds1.
I admit it is not for everyone. The game is more of a psychological game, a chill and relax game, sort of cathartic. Anyway, Ds2 for me is still the best game of this Ps5 era. I rank it as number one, 2nd is Astrobot and 3rd is Stellar blade.
 
yogaflame said:
Ds2 is a niche game, I admit that, but it is still an impressive number and will get better as we approach end of the year. I think even Kojima never expected a 5 to 10 million numbers at launch for Ds2. I think 2 million worldwide right now is decent enough. Anyway what matters is the game beautiful, very based, none of that woke twisted gender ideology crap and one of the best game this era.

Don't get me wrong, DKB is a great game, one of the top contenders for game of the year. DK was 100% expected to top the charts. DK is one of the most well loved franchise in history of gaming, just like Mario for Nintendo, or Halo for Xbox or GOW for Sony, nothing can beat that. Add to that Nintendo is the goat right now, the home for true exclusives especially beloved franchise games like Mario, Pokemon, DK, etc. While PS is losing so many fans and alienating many PS owners, for porting exclusives to other platforms, not to mention PS exclusives are so few in this Ps5 era. And worse, Sony focusing on woke infested gaas instead of reviving beloved Sony IP.
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Kacho said:
Everybody's Golf will not sell anywhere close to 3-4 million.
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4M was overselling it, perhaps, but 3M? >2M is pretty much what it used to do in USA + Japan alone.
The new game will flop, sure, but that's because it's a low effort, licensed BNE title.
 
Deerock71 said:
"Nintendo Switch 2 drove July's hardware spending growth. July dollar sales of PS5 hardware fell 47% compared to a year ago, while Xbox Series spending dropped by 69%."

But...no one's buying it, right?
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To be fair 480k imo seems quite a drops for the second month of the year launch.
 
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nial said:
4M was overselling it, perhaps, but 3M? >2M is pretty much what it used to do in USA + Japan alone.
The new game will flop, sure, but that's because it's a low effort, licensed BNE title.
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It used to be relevant but nowadays it's extremely niche. The audience that bought them have aged out of gaming. It's going to sell less than Astrobot despite being multiplatform, even after multiple years at deep discounts across multiple storefronts. I wish that wasn't the case.
 
Karim said:
Ok but 480k for the second month it's quite a drops.
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Well yes, especially if you're coming from the biggest first month for a console ever. But taking into consideration it was July is a solid number + +75% in the first two months compared to Switch 1. We should wait for the big months to have a better metric.
 
Mr Moose said:
July isn't a big month. PS4 in its first July (I know it's not the same, since it launched in November, but still) was 187K. 480k is pretty good.
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Launching the console in June had the risks of not having two big months compared to launch the system in November but in the other hand Nintendo now has the chance of stoke pile consoles for November and December and have a bigger user base for the holiday season software.
 
Update from Mat:

July - Units Switch 3 XBS 4, Dollars XBS 3 Switch 4
YTD - Units and Dollars XBS 3 Switch 4
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Will be interesting to see if Switch or Xbox Series finishes third in units for the year.

Karim said:
Ok but 480k for the second month it's quite a drops.
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For context, here are some other non-holiday drops.

Switch

March - 911,000
April - 281,000

3DS

March - 398,000
April - 194,000

PSP

March - 620,000
April - 351,000
 
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