dapperbandit
Banned
Well it's been two years since the last one and traditionally, Civ games only get two expansions so I wouldn't count the days lol
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Civilization V Brave New World |OT| More than Content Tourism
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Well it's been two years since the last one and traditionally, Civ games only get two expansions so I wouldn't count the days lol
A Serious Man
Member
I'm hoping for a total conversion like Civ IV: Colonization, but this time based on Alpha Centauri.
shiftplusone
Member
does anyone know if the GMG key works for the mac version?
I assume so since its just a steam key and the steam key is for both the mac/pc client
although the GMG key wont let me apply a coupon to it so I guess I could just buy it straight from steam...
I assume so since its just a steam key and the steam key is for both the mac/pc client
although the GMG key wont let me apply a coupon to it so I guess I could just buy it straight from steam...
I doubt we'll see another expansion. Maybe some more DLC?
CyclopsRock
Member
Do you need to be on the VPN when you buy the game expansion, when you log in or just when you go to download it?
It's a bit of a cop-out to say "It depends on the civ you're playing" but... it really kinda depends on the civ you're playing.
The good military civs pretty much all have reasonably early, powerful unique units. The Huns are a good example: the Battering Ram is vicious, and it's available as soon as you research Bronze working. If you're playing them you want to be picking fights in the ancient era, come hell or high water. Find cities that ain't yours then ram 'em and raze 'em (or puppet 'em if you don't care about your battle strategies having cutesy alliterative descriptions). Rome's at its strongest relative to other civs when its Ballistae and Legions are current, so the Classical era is when you should be aiming to start fighting, and so on.
Absent any special units or whatnot, I usually aim for three timing windows: Classical era as soon as I have Catapults and Composite Bowmen, Medieval era as soon as I've got Trebuchets and Crossbowmen, or the Industrial era as soon as I get Artillery and can outrange enemy cities. I usually avoid picking major fights during the Renaissance if possible, on account of that's where the military unit upgrade paths go bananas and I become fearful and uncertain on account of that. The Renaissance and I just don't get along very well in general.
That's the general idea I follow when aiming for an aggressive game. I usually vacillate between Emperor and Immortal difficulties, and I can vouch for their efficacy on those settings, but I usually avoid Deity and don't play multiplayer so lots of luck if you try to apply any of these ideas there.
Just to start the download, once it starts you can go back to your own IP.
I used spot flux, switched it off as soon as the download started so I would get a decent speed.
Edit- I had preordered last week, doesn't matter what ip you preorder under.
zombipuppy
Member
No rush for sure! Just gets me curious about what is planned for the next update. I'm definitely enjoying it at a slow and steady pace!
CyclopsRock
Member
Awesome, thanks man.
No problem, enjoy!
Architechnophile
Member
Didn't get to install it last night, due to wife yelling at me to go to bed.
I'm just going to try to live vicariously through those who can play while I'm at work.
I'm just going to try to live vicariously through those who can play while I'm at work.
CyclopsRock
Member
That's a good idea. I fucked it on my playthrough with Rome, I didn't even use either of the special units as I was turtling away. Actually, I lie - I used one legion to build some roads, that's it.
My next game will be a BNW one - I might go back to my good ol' England for my first go. I feel at home there.
I feel like England is underpowered in this. If you get a continent or pangea map your uu and ua pretty much mean nothing.
Ofcourse if its a map with a decent amount of ocean you absolutely dominate.
dapperbandit
Banned
It's a great game for sure. Civilization is one of those few games that's nigh on infinitely replayable, even more so now that Gods and Kings gave you so much flexibility with religion and Brave New World gives you ideologies, all of which you can tinker with to suit the hand you've been dealt.
dapperbandit
Banned
Can't underestimate the power of the longbow my friend. With that range, it's like holding off a midget trying to punch you while you kick him in the balls.
PoweredBySoy
Banned
This has always been one of my biggest critiques of Civ V - that a large number of the Civs are largely dependent on terrain. And when you don't get that terrain it's kind of a downer and probably enough excuse to start over.
I've always wished that policies and techs allowed you to better adapt to terrain - especially harsh terrain like desert and tundra - so you can adapt your Civ around the world you're given. Petra next to desert city is great, and almost OP, but it's a Wonder, so it's sometimes tough to get, plus it only works for one city.
Another solution to this would be to strengthen the starting bias. If I'm Montezuma, I want more jungles and lakes around me. Pachuti, give me hills and mountains. Isabella, put a natural wonder near my borders. Etc. Sometimes it's fun to choose the map based on your Civ, like small islands and Kamehameha, but that almost seems like cheating.
The only map where England is disadvantaged is Pangea - there's certainly enough naval action on a continents map to abuse their UA as well as the ship of the line.
You have to remember, English Longbows are probably one of the three best UUs in the game, along with Cho-Ko-Nus and Keshik's. They are effectively artillery two eras early and in the hands of a player are absurdly powerful - plus their promotion means you get2 range Gatling guns, machine guns and bazook's which are also ridiculous.
The Ship of the Line is the best unique naval unit in the game, hands down - again, on any map other than Pangea hitting SotL should mean the death of every empire on a coast.
My main frustration with England is the AI is coded to play them in a very odd and perplexing manor. They are one of the top war civilisations in the game bar none, with two of then best units in the game and an ability that guarantees they win any naval combat, and yet the AI tends not to expand and waste its time throwing temper tantrums.
You have to remember, English Longbows are probably one of the three best UUs in the game, along with Cho-Ko-Nus and Keshik's. They are effectively artillery two eras early and in the hands of a player are absurdly powerful - plus their promotion means you get2 range Gatling guns, machine guns and bazook's which are also ridiculous.
The Ship of the Line is the best unique naval unit in the game, hands down - again, on any map other than Pangea hitting SotL should mean the death of every empire on a coast.
My main frustration with England is the AI is coded to play them in a very odd and perplexing manor. They are one of the top war civilisations in the game bar none, with two of then best units in the game and an ability that guarantees they win any naval combat, and yet the AI tends not to expand and waste its time throwing temper tantrums.
Fragamemnon
Member
England's extra spy is also underrated-the earlier you get a spy, the more likely you'll get a chance to get it promoted. England is all-around good in Civ 5.
On the subject of terrain dependency, at this early juncture one of my favorite new things about Brave New World is that Iron is now revealed as soon as you research Bronze Working, so you've actually got the opportunity to plan ahead. No more grabbing Iron Working only to find out that you ain't got none of the stuff to work.
That'd been bugging me ever since the game's original release.
That'd been bugging me ever since the game's original release.
can i not change Trade Routes?
You need to set them up every 24 turns.
After making a few trips your Caravan or Cargo Ship will prompt you to choose a new destination for trade. Choosing a trade route isn't permanent; even if you chose a bad destination you haven't screwed yourself permanently.
When I preordered BioShock back in March I got a $30 credit for any digital 2K Games game from Amazon, which I specifically planned on using for Brave New World. Now the time has come and the credit isn't applying, and support wans't able to help me, so they've forwarded my issue to the promotions and marketing department and said it might take a couple of days for them to get back to me.
Glad I decided not to take today of work as I often do for highly anticipated releases, but still.. sad face.
Glad I decided not to take today of work as I often do for highly anticipated releases, but still.. sad face.
Civ V has always just been one entry on Steam, install Civ, you install everything you own
Got mine a little after 4:30am EST this morning and I just activated it on Steam with no problems.
I live in the UK, and I was able to activate the game by using Spotflux as a proxy to login to Steam. When it started downloading I disabled Spotflux. Afterwards I had to download the /expansion2/ folder DLL. Now the game plays fine even if I don't use a proxy to login to Steam each time I play.
Mengy
wishes it were bannable to say mean things about Marvel
I know I will play the shit out of this like I always do with Civ games, but since the steam summer sale is so close I'm actually going to be strong and wait a bit. Hopefully BNW goes on sale and I can snag it cheaper, if the sale runs it's course and it never goes on sale then I'll just buy it outright.
Sometimes a little patience can go a long way....
Sometimes a little patience can go a long way....
A gaf user was selling them for 12 dollars
A fellow GAFfer is selling keys for 12$ a pop, i don't think even steam can outdo him.
SpotFlux doesn't work here, i got a VPN up in the US, but it started downloading, got at 25.4mb and is not progressing at all
Mengy
wishes it were bannable to say mean things about Marvel
12 dollars? How, this just came out??? Are they legit keys? If I could buy BNW for $12 I'd do so immediately, LOL!
Yea, there was a mix up on brazil steam pricing, they were selling for 1.50 so I guess people bought them in bulk
I haven't gotten mine to work but its prob cause I'm on Mac
SpotFlux doesn't work here, i got a VPN up in the US, but it started downloading, got at 25.4mb and is not progressing at all
If it started downloading then that's good news. Turn off SpotFlux and it should proceed to download on your regular connection.
I planned on using my 30 dollar credit today on this. Amazon only said the credit wasn't valid for pre orders.
Same, I sent them an email hoping to get this figured out.
Spirit of Jazz
Banned
I'm guessing you're from the US. I'm in the UK and I've yet to see my code.
PoweredBySoy
Banned
GAH FUCK! I totally forgot I had that credit too.... What else is 2K releasing this year?
*crickets*
Fragamemnon
Member
quill is an amazing guy but deity or bust for any civ LPs I watch.
Early impressions of the Shoshone :
Either a liberty or tradition start is fine with these guys, but I kind of like Liberty if you can swing it since you have so many tiles that are going to need improvement. Pyramids seems easy to get and is worthwhile even on higher difficulties if you are going to have room for 6+ cities. You really want to use the last couple of ruins available for your pathfinders to get their composite bow upgrades. You also should be on the lookout for conquest going out of the early game since you get such a strong start.
Barbs seem more aggressive now and that new hand axe unit is hugely annoying.
and let's all rejoice that coastal starts no longer suck. They are actually pretty awesome, you want some coastal cities and you want to specialize them for $$$$, and your inland river cities for science or military production.
Early impressions of the Shoshone :
Either a liberty or tradition start is fine with these guys, but I kind of like Liberty if you can swing it since you have so many tiles that are going to need improvement. Pyramids seems easy to get and is worthwhile even on higher difficulties if you are going to have room for 6+ cities. You really want to use the last couple of ruins available for your pathfinders to get their composite bow upgrades. You also should be on the lookout for conquest going out of the early game since you get such a strong start.
Barbs seem more aggressive now and that new hand axe unit is hugely annoying.
and let's all rejoice that coastal starts no longer suck. They are actually pretty awesome, you want some coastal cities and you want to specialize them for $$$$, and your inland river cities for science or military production.