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Civilization V Brave New World |OT| More than Content Tourism
- Thread starter Fragamemnon
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Usually from different techs (Sailing, Compass, Engineering etc.), Venice get double.
-tetsuo-
Unlimited Capacity
Sid pls
That's not true BTW - you can pick multiple tenets per tier. MadDjins 'Beyond the Monument' cast last week showed you get 5 tier 1 tenets, 4 tier 2 and 3 tier 3 tenets when the tree is maxed out. However you need a certain number of each tier before you can buy another policy of the next tier - so you basically need to have filled out the entire tree before you can get multiple tier 3 tenets.
edit: In retrospect this is not the place to bring this up, sorry!
Thanks for the tips, very tempted to buy it for that price.
I started as Venice planning on playing a relatively peaceful, trading-oriented game to get used to some of the new mechanics.
I started just north of Shaka.
We have been at war for two thousand years now.
Dude does not know when to quit.
Edit: Actually, I seem to be in a pretty bad way. I've been spending all my Venetian trading lucre on fighting Shaka, while Ashurbanipal has basically been running roughshod over the entire rest of the continent. According to the trading interface he is now 7 techs ahead of me, which is, uh, not good. I'm not sure what the situation is precisely, but from the rate of age progression of unknown civs I think that one of the unmet civs is dominating across the ocean.
So I've got two runaways, a belligerent neighbor who's draining my dosh, and I kinda let the whole thing get away from me because I was so fixated on learning the new systems.
I can't even remember the last time I lost a game of Civ 5 on King difficulty, but it might be about to happen.
I started just north of Shaka.
We have been at war for two thousand years now.
Dude does not know when to quit.
Edit: Actually, I seem to be in a pretty bad way. I've been spending all my Venetian trading lucre on fighting Shaka, while Ashurbanipal has basically been running roughshod over the entire rest of the continent. According to the trading interface he is now 7 techs ahead of me, which is, uh, not good. I'm not sure what the situation is precisely, but from the rate of age progression of unknown civs I think that one of the unmet civs is dominating across the ocean.
So I've got two runaways, a belligerent neighbor who's draining my dosh, and I kinda let the whole thing get away from me because I was so fixated on learning the new systems.
I can't even remember the last time I lost a game of Civ 5 on King difficulty, but it might be about to happen.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
lol I'm glad I didn't start this shit up yet. I have work to do still.
-tetsuo-
Unlimited Capacity
God damn fractured map type. So, I started in just about the WORST position possible. Barbs all over my island with one city state. I am the very north of the map so I lose the North to explore. My island is pretty small, and surrounded by shards of land with useful tiles on them. Why yes, I would love to found 8 cities to get 8 separate resources lol
At least no one hates me. Yet. I am way behind though. Elizabeth and Washinhton started on some prime land. That is the beauty of Civ though. Somehow, some way there is a way to win within the walls of my shitty little separated by oceans cities. I am also having to learn the mechanics of G&K and BNW. I guess this is as good a tutorial as any D:
At least no one hates me. Yet. I am way behind though. Elizabeth and Washinhton started on some prime land. That is the beauty of Civ though. Somehow, some way there is a way to win within the walls of my shitty little separated by oceans cities. I am also having to learn the mechanics of G&K and BNW. I guess this is as good a tutorial as any D:
Just need the VPN to activate it.
CyclopsRock
Member
I powered through a game in the last 2 nights, as Rome. It was just me and Arabia on North America, with me in roughly the US and him in Canada, but the sneaky little prick snuck down and grabbed most of the southern most states and Mexico (I had a little output near Panama). It was all going OK, my religion - always Judaism, I dunno why - was pushing out his relatively well. I was going for a science victory and he just flat out declares war on me out of no where. I had by far the lowest "pointiest sticks" of everyone. He surrounded one of my cities in New England, and that was the last time he was ever ahead. Thanks to my science pursuit, I had my (purchased) paratroopers blowing away his stupid camel archers, my Battleships and Artillery were massacring his coastal cities and my bombers were carpet bombing his interior cities. I began taking them and he finally sued for peace by giving me 3 cities and a bunch of Horses (gee, thanks). I declined, Nuked Mecca and then re-offered the same deal which he accepted. Take that, you fucker.
Facism
Member
I finally got spotflux working but it's slow as hell with the download. Shame i can't get the download started, quit out of spotflux and get full speed without the download failing.
edit yup download goes to 0/0.
This is fucking nonsense.
dapperbandit
Banned
you're only hope is cultural/diplomatic victory
create some kind of buffer between you Shaka then sue for peace. Focus the rest of your gold on getting chummy with the city states. If you're neighbours are more advanced, they'll probably get an ideology before you, if they go for the same one, go with their ideology.
dapperbandit
Banned
why can't Jews and Arabs ever get along?
CyclopsRock
Member
He started man. He started it.
(It really is just like real life. Israel to nuke Mecca confirmed?)
dapperbandit
Banned
I actually managed to turn things around once I stopped gaping in confusion at the new stuff and put my game face on. I pulled a bit of a dirty trick on Shaka when he tried to siege Venice. I was having trouble making any progress against him because I'd win a defensive fight but most of his units would end up scarpering off at the end and avoid utter annihilation, and his army was so much larger than mine that he outright refused to even talk to me about peace. So when they retreated this time they had to more or less pass through the territory of a city-state, so as soon as he started withdrawing his army I stuffed the CS full of cash so they allied with me, declared war on Shaka, and killed 5 or so of his wounded and retreating units. Then I popped a new Merchant of Venice, puppeted a city state that let me re-base my overland caravans so they could trade without getting plundered by passing through Zulu territory, bought some Trebuchets with the sweet cash that was flowing in again, and captured two of Shaka's cities.
Meanwhile Ashurbanipal had apparently over-expanded and stalled out a bit, because I closed the tech gap by 3 technologies and he lost a pair of cities to France. He's not looking nearly as dominant as he was, and with Shaka on the ropes it's looking like Ashurbanipal, Napoleon, and I are going to end up more or less splitting the continent three ways.
It's miles away from the game I was expecting to play, but once I stopped staring in wide-eyed, gormless confusion at the new content and fell back on my trusty ol' bloodthirsty conqueror road to victory everything started falling into place.
How did you get it working? Steam keeps forcing itself into offline mode if I try to start with it enabled.
I had no luck with FlyVPN or Spotflux as well.
Facism
Member
I just sarted it up and used a false email and password to sign up for 7 days. Didn't do anything else.
Game doesn't want to load up as BNW though, still shows god's and kings
I need that missing .dll file but the only link on the internet no longer has it.dapperbandit
Banned
Play an Islands map, you'll generally have your own uncontested land, a few nearby islands to settle. Build a sizeable navy, like maybe 6 ships or more, you're pretty much golden, since the AI has a hard time launching coastal invasions.
I remember one time I played a game like that as Korea, was stuck on a barren lump of tundra and mountains, managed to destory Alexander's entire fleet (8 battleships, 5 carriers) with three submarines.
PoweredBySoy
Banned
Extremely minor, but man, they really need to swap the Exploration and Commerce background pictures. And then completely rename Exploration. =/
Played about half a game so far - way too early to judge, but so far liking it. Given all the choices and vast amount of things to construct, it seems you need to be much more deliberate with your progression. Which is a great thing. Civ V has always been wishy-washy that way, in that your civilization could advance in multiple directions and still be successful. That if you could win with one victory condition, you could probably win with a few of the others as well.
Really digging Shoshone's early game. Fun stuff.
Played about half a game so far - way too early to judge, but so far liking it. Given all the choices and vast amount of things to construct, it seems you need to be much more deliberate with your progression. Which is a great thing. Civ V has always been wishy-washy that way, in that your civilization could advance in multiple directions and still be successful. That if you could win with one victory condition, you could probably win with a few of the others as well.
Really digging Shoshone's early game. Fun stuff.
Vargavinter
Member
Cant wait for the 12'th.
I just sarted it up and used a false email and password to sign up for 7 days. Didn't do anything else.
Game doesn't want to load up as BNW though, still shows god's and kings
Here you go.
http://cl.ly/Q8Oq
The DLL solved the problem for me as well. See you on the other side.
Has Firaxis given a rough date on when they plan on having the standalone server files for pitboss mode available?
PoweredBySoy
Banned
.... and so happy I don't have to look at that Gods & Kings title screen anymore. I've always hated that guy.
CyclopsRock
Member
For those of you who like military strategies, when is the earliest you go on the offensive? If you explore some ruins and get an upgrade, do you just go straight for it (even just to kill the workers and settlers that another faction creates, choking them off early if not outright taking their city) or do you wait til you have a few siege units and do it "properly"? I never really go for all out military, though I typically concentrate on tech and then hope to over-tech people in war rather than use numbers (ie bombers vs archers).
dapperbandit
Banned
In previous games I might rush a neighbour within the first 15 turns.
It's very difficul to do that in Civ V though, because regardless of how many units they have, a city with one citizen is by all accounts a fuly armed and operational battle station.
I think they could have balanced that by say, tieing city bombard damage to improvements like walls and castles.
In Civ V I start the game fairly insular and my military escapades are generally reserved for barbarians, since destroying encampments is an easy way to get chummy with City States who can give you a boost when your civ is still young.
I have been give the key, it just won't work. I emailed support show I guess I'll have to wait and see.
Checked out steam support and I found this: https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=2204-OPGC-4862
"If the game is a recent release, or was purchased during a sale
While we do our best to anticipate demand from our users, occasionally we may run out of keys to provide for your purchase. When we are out of keys, this error will appear. You will be issued a key as soon as we have been given more by the game's publisher."
That might be the cause?
PoweredBySoy
Banned
Is it even possible to take cities from just village upgrades? I don't believe so, but I suppose it would depend on the difficulty. But I will often steal settlers that a neighbor sends in my direction. You'll most likely take a pretty big diplomacy hit from doing this, but it's worth it to stop your neighbor during that initial land-grab. Plus, hey, free worker. I won't ever start war just for enemy workers though - isn't worth it.
When war-monging, I typically do it "properly", after the initial land-grab is about done and borders are established. That way I better know in which direction I want to expand too.
Using the Great Library to pop Iron Working is always an easy road to early domination. I really like that you can now see Iron resources from discovering Bronze Working. It potentially saves you a lot of tech, and whether you should discover Iron Working or not. Nothing was more depressing than speed teching all the way to Iron Working only to find out you have no frickin' Iron.
CyclopsRock
Member
Yeah, I agree. And population. Cities can basically defend themselves a lot of the time, especially if you strategically place them next to mountains and water etc - it's not until later in the game when you have units that can fire more than one hex away on rough terrain that those cities can ever realistically be taken.
CyclopsRock
Member
Gah, I should have done that when Arabia went land-grabbing down south. They were usually guarded, but I'm sure I could have found one or two instances where they weren't. I did have a fun little cat and mouse game where both me and Arabia were rushing to settle next to a wonder. I had to use an archer and some nearby mountains to basically funnel him into a dead end so my settler could get there. Then the settler (and his escort) just went wandering around aimlessly for about 12 turns.
dapperbandit
Banned
Ha, I used to do that in Civ 3.
Form a line of units and block all the Settlers rushing to build on unclaimed land.
"I'm sorry am I in the way?"
"Yes you're in the way!"
"I'm sorry, I didn't realise that I was in the way!"
PoweredBySoy
Banned
Most instances they are not - especially their first settler. Right about the time I'm finished with my initial exploration, I'll park either my Scout or Warrior (whoever is closest) next to my nearest neighbors capital (or next to my neighbor in the direction I want to expand), and then every turn I'll look to make sure his Settler hasn't popped yet. When it does, if it starts heading in my direction I'll snag it. That will also give me my second Worker, just in time for my Settler who will most likely be spawning soon.
zombipuppy
Member
Getting sucked in to this magnificent game. Everything about it is so grandiose and epic! An alternate history of the world unfolding right before my eyes...
What do you all think the next expansion will introduce?
What do you all think the next expansion will introduce?