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Cloverfield Hype & Movie Thread *Spoilers Ahoy!*
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The Storyteller
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JJ Abrams is the scapegoat for all the shitty writers at Bad Robot. He gets the blunt end of the blame because he is the most prominent one among them. Besides I had no problem with the directing, the film looked great and the cinematography was excellent.EviLore said:
Spotless Mind said:
Exactly.
"God's Beard!"
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I just watched that alien abduction movie someone linked to. Fucking hell, man.
like seriously
Is it really that much worse than any other contrivance the writers might have come up with, though? If they couldn't escape because the bridges were all taken out or their path was blocked by too much rubble....would it really have improved the film to any significant extent? That's what I was essentially getting at. IMO, one contrivance is pretty much as good as another. And whether they settled on destroyed bridges/tunnels or a romantic angle as the obstacle, your opinion towards the characters would have been pretty much the same. Therefore, the romance (what little there is) isn't really what is bringing the film down. It's just a scapegoat for what you consider to be insufficient character development.Spotless Mind said:
Spotless Mind
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From what was presented in the film, you would be lead to believe the monster was what crashed in the water... From what other people here tell me, it is a Tagruato satellite or some such bullshit, that was linked in with the online game! Yes, can you believe it! Something from the final seconds of the film that has a LOT of people wondering, is merely a gimmicky link back to a marketing game. What fantastic writing this is!Nutter said:
godhandiscen
There are millions of whiny 5-year olds on Earth, and I AM THEIR KING.
Fucking Awesome movie. DAMN DAMN DAMN! I just came back too and I fucking loved it. God this is the kind of movie why theaters where invented. If you wait until the HD-DVD/BluRay release you will just screw the experience unless your setup can match that of a theater. God I am watching it again tomorrow.
I've got a question
When they finally get to Beth's apartment, and she is impaled on the piece of rebar, wouldn't she have bled out when they pulled her off? I thought you were never supposed to remove something that's impaling someone, or they would bleed to death
Rahxephon91
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Freaking awesome movie. One of the most intense movies I've seen. Do I want a sequel? No because I think a movie about the same monster, the same attack(if they went with the other perspective thingy), and perhaps the same pov style would be a little boring. Sure I would like some answers about the monster but its not like I ever needed to know. A monster attacked, it was just an event
I think they handled the shaky cam very well. Never did I not understand what was going on.
I think they handled the shaky cam very well. Never did I not understand what was going on.
Phoenix said:
I didn't get Star Trek, but I did get Iron Man and shitty ass 10,000 BC. Also I got no end credit music, just silence. But I left pretty early into the credits because my GF was feeling sick.
Also am I the only one who never really felt any tension throughout? Other than the last few minutes with the helicopters I felt like I saw everything coming before it happened (save maybe the parasite in the stairwell on the way down the building).
Scarecrow said:
Camera and Electrical Department
Bill Almeida .... rigging gaffer: New York
Robert Reed Altman .... camera operator
John Billeci .... best boy: New York
Joe Buscaglia .... additional first assistant camera
Sean Devine .... camera grip
Matt Guiza .... second assistant camera
Gary Kangrga .... key rigging grip
Clay Liversidge .... gaffer: New York
Chris Shadley .... key video assist
Rick A. West .... gaffer
And just for the hell of it, before I go to bed I might as well defend against the "Don't care about the characters" angle. While I'd probably agree that everyone in the film is mostly just there as mindless monster-fodder, I do feel like there's several moments where you can connect with them.
1.) Rob on the phone, having to tell his mother that her son is dead.
2.) Rob explains to Lily that his brother's death is "different" for her than Beth's hypothetical death because his brother "knew that [Lily] loved him". He feels like he can't let the situation go unresolved, and while some people will probably never buy into Rob's motivation, there's at least that way to explain it.
3.) Hud thanks Marlena for saving his life, in a kind of roundabout, not-trying-to-betray-my-feelings sort of way.
None of this ever made me feel tension for the characters, but I think that's kind of a natural detachment that's going to occur when you expect people to die. In those few moments though, there's a kind of empathy and understanding that happens.
1.) Rob on the phone, having to tell his mother that her son is dead.
2.) Rob explains to Lily that his brother's death is "different" for her than Beth's hypothetical death because his brother "knew that [Lily] loved him". He feels like he can't let the situation go unresolved, and while some people will probably never buy into Rob's motivation, there's at least that way to explain it.
3.) Hud thanks Marlena for saving his life, in a kind of roundabout, not-trying-to-betray-my-feelings sort of way.
None of this ever made me feel tension for the characters, but I think that's kind of a natural detachment that's going to occur when you expect people to die. In those few moments though, there's a kind of empathy and understanding that happens.
Captain Jebus
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I loved the movie. Thought it was great.
Don't know if anyone is with me, but
Am I the only one? 
Don't know if anyone is with me, but
The scene with Hud, Rob, and beth in the helo when it was spinning out of control and Hud was begging God gave me chills
brandonh83
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Captain Jebus said:Don't know if anyone is with me, butAm I the only one?The scene with Hud, Rob, and beth in the helo when it was spinning out of control and Hud was begging God gave me chills
I was looking for an OH SHIT handle during that bit. Couldn't find one so I just pissed myself instead.
civilstrife
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I like my girlfriend's first reaction after the movie.
"Someone just had a bad roll in Jumanji."
I nearly pissed myself laughing.
"Someone just had a bad roll in Jumanji."
I nearly pissed myself laughing.
Captain Jebus said:I loved the movie. Thought it was great.
Don't know if anyone is with me, butAm I the only one?The scene with Hud, Rob, and beth in the helo when it was spinning out of control and Hud was begging God gave me chills
it's so realistic at that point. I mean what do you do in that kind of situation? You know the end is near, sort of like a roller coaster, only this ain't for fun
. To me those were the scariest parts of the movies... the ones that were possible such as the one mentioned or
the massive cloud of dust coming flying at you... this actually happened on 9/11
Does anyone else find it somewhat depressing that
after everything that happened, the chick they went back for died anyway? So if they had just left in the first place, she still would have died, but they would have survived. So the entire thing was for nothing.
And similarly, on a smaller level, Marlena died because she saved Hud, but then Hud went and got himself killed anyway. Of course that doesn't really matter. If Marlena hadn't gone back for Hud, she would've been on the helicopter instead, and she would've wound up dying under the bridge. But still...
And similarly, on a smaller level, Marlena died because she saved Hud, but then Hud went and got himself killed anyway. Of course that doesn't really matter. If Marlena hadn't gone back for Hud, she would've been on the helicopter instead, and she would've wound up dying under the bridge. But still...
i thought the film was average, the party scene went on for way too long and the shaky cam annoyed me because i wanted to see what was going on
didn't really care for the characters (Lily was hot though)
maybe i went in expecting something but i would have liked some payoff, did they kill the monster or what?
i completely missed seeing that thing crash into the water at the end though
didn't really care for the characters (Lily was hot though
)maybe i went in expecting something but i would have liked some payoff, did they kill the monster or what?
i completely missed seeing that thing crash into the water at the end though
CounterSeal
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Just got back from watching Cloverfield as well... we hopped to National Treasure 2, and I must say I liked the latter more...
Cloverfield was a dissapointment, it had some awesome moments, but as mentioned before I just never came to give a shit about the main characters. I was expecting more shots involving the actual military confrontation with the beast, but instead the movie had to revolve around these boring, meaningless characters that the audience mostly don't even connect with.
Also, I loved Blair Witch Project, but the camera work in Cloverfield made me want to throw up a bit.
Cloverfield was a dissapointment, it had some awesome moments, but as mentioned before I just never came to give a shit about the main characters. I was expecting more shots involving the actual military confrontation with the beast, but instead the movie had to revolve around these boring, meaningless characters that the audience mostly don't even connect with.
Also, I loved Blair Witch Project, but the camera work in Cloverfield made me want to throw up a bit.
Just saw Cloverfield last night and it is a bit weird because I am taking a trip in NYC, I almost expect to see the monster in times square. Anyways, the movie was pretty good, my friend who say it with me says it is a 2 star movie, then again he loved I am Legend and the mist.
Personally I give it 3 for effort and execution, I doubt some filmmakers could produce a film like this.
The effects were damn well done. Yes you see tons of screens of the
. The characters were pretty good except the main one, I personally thought he was insane and didn't care if
The ending of the was poetic to say the least, especially the final words of the film.
I still feel a bit jittery from the film. My friend called this a disaster film, I said to him that was an understatement.
Personally I give it 3 for effort and execution, I doubt some filmmakers could produce a film like this.
The effects were damn well done. Yes you see tons of screens of the
creature
everyone died to save his pseudo-girlfriend. Even his damn brother died.And it seems all for not, since only one made it off Manhattan.
I still feel a bit jittery from the film. My friend called this a disaster film, I said to him that was an understatement.
Went and saw it earlier tonight with girlfriend and her sister. We walked out a bit after the
. Main reason why was due to my girlfriend walking out 30 mins into it to go throw up (and subsequently stay outside) due to the motion sickness, and her sister was feeling pretty queasy whenever the group were running around like headless chooks. I felt like shit whenever the damn camera was pointed to the ground and the viewpoint was spinning around.
Premise was cool but I really hated the fact
. Just a tad over the top and into the gutter for my liking.
So I said to the girls that we'll rent it out when it hits DVD. Won't get motion sickness by watching it on a smaller screen and with ample background lighting available.
crew were heading up to Beth's apartment
Premise was cool but I really hated the fact
that this shithead was risking everything just for some friend he boned once
So I said to the girls that we'll rent it out when it hits DVD. Won't get motion sickness by watching it on a smaller screen and with ample background lighting available.
IronicallyTwisted
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Very minor spoilers in this post.
I appreciate what the film was trying to do more than what it actually did. Overall the characters didn't really sell themselves as "really being there" like the Blair Witch characters did. Some of the dialogue, such as the flaming hobo remarks were just so ill timed and absurd it actually took me out of the movie. The camera man dapening the situation with humour came across as forced.
The juxtaposition of Beth and Rob building their relationship as things went on and on would have looked great on paper but I wasn't sold on the reasons for Robs level of commitment to her. The little group speach on why Rob should be with Beth wasn't particuarly well written for how important that would become.
Its not that the characterisation was horrible, or even average, but for a character based movie it could have stood to have been a little more fufilling.
I appreciate what the film was trying to do more than what it actually did. Overall the characters didn't really sell themselves as "really being there" like the Blair Witch characters did. Some of the dialogue, such as the flaming hobo remarks were just so ill timed and absurd it actually took me out of the movie. The camera man dapening the situation with humour came across as forced.
The juxtaposition of Beth and Rob building their relationship as things went on and on would have looked great on paper but I wasn't sold on the reasons for Robs level of commitment to her. The little group speach on why Rob should be with Beth wasn't particuarly well written for how important that would become.
Its not that the characterisation was horrible, or even average, but for a character based movie it could have stood to have been a little more fufilling.
movie should have ended at that point.Captain Jebus said:I loved the movie. Thought it was great.
Don't know if anyone is with me, butAm I the only one?The scene with Hud, Rob, and beth in the helo when it was spinning out of control and Hud was begging God gave me chills
KevinCow said:
even if they left her there she may have lived. who knows?
Scrow said:
how? The military had a lot more important thing to do then look in buildings for survivors. She would have died of dehydration since she was stuck before they found her if the building didnt get hit by some sort of weapon beforehand. She would have died, no question.
Never noticed a Dharma logo myself. I don't watch Lost and I don't care for it, so the less this film has to do with Lost, the betterrobochimp said:
I think it's just better as a standalone thing.Anyway, they went pretty all-out with the advertising on opening day in Sydney:
This shit gets handed out every afternoon on weekdays at train stations in Sydney, so it was everywhere. The newspaper itself is waste of trees, but it makes for pretty damn good marketing and exposure for the film.
GenericPseudonym
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eXxy said:
Don't tell me what I like.
Wellington
BAAAALLLINNN'
The audio clip was not worth staying for.Captain N said:
Fixed2BeBroken
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effzee said:
lol, i was sarcastically saying the same thing, then was told I should never try to get into the "Creative business" as if THEY SHOULD.
so for the haters on gaf, please make a movie since you know so much/know better and lets see how well it does.
Fixed2BeBroken
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to those bringing up the host...
imo, cloverfield shits on the host....and I Loved the host.
imo, cloverfield shits on the host....and I Loved the host.
SpeedingUptoStop
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THANK YOU! About time somebody else stopped riding its jock. I don't even know how people think the film is perfect - the monster is sweet and some action scenes are great, but uhhh "Oh no, there no bullets in my gun, I didn't check before I fired ARRRRR" "I'm a gymnast so I can face down thi-OOOOOH my head". It had some funny moments, exhilarating moments, totally lame moments, and pure meh moments. It really seemed like 6 directors made The Host. Overall, 6/10, but I'd only recommend it to people to watch for free on TV or something.hirokazu said:
Really enjoyed the hell out of this movie. The sound in my theater was LOUD! So loud at parts that the theater was shaking! Talk about intense!
FYI Cloverfield Despoiler says that the Tagruato satellite was traking something that had landed in the ocean, obviously it could be the satellite if it was tracking something, so must be the monster. Then there's the production notes...
FYI Cloverfield Despoiler says that the Tagruato satellite was traking something that had landed in the ocean, obviously it could be the satellite if it was tracking something, so must be the monster. Then there's the production notes...
Spotless Mind
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I think the genre bending nature of it was what made it so good. It was equal parts great horror, comedy, action with some awesome deliberately cheesy moments and interesting social commentary. I by no means think it was perfect. It had enormous pacing problems, but the characters were superbly written and i never once questioned why the hell they would want to go back and save the girl. The relationships were entirely believable and i was invested in what happened to them, unlike in Cloverfield. It also explains the origins of the monster in a satisfying way and it isn't the slightest bit cryptic about it, which is a plus.Iamthegamer said:
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