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[James Sawyer Ford]

Just hear me loud and clear if you're disappointed like truly disappointed by that state of play your expectations are wildly off-kilter. That was, I would think, one of the better (if not one of the best) states of play actually, in my opinion.

From a pure, like, what do I want to play point of view lots of games (like a dozen of them) and couple we've known about (most of them we didn't), and and I'm in on those games so it worked on me. I continue to be flumixed by how it could be that me (Colin Moriarty) is The Optimist and that the people around me who long told me how negative I was (you know in the environment around us) seem to be so pessimistic, and yeah now there's no doubt based on the sales figures we discussed earlier in the show...the engagement numbers, software sales numbers, monthly active users, like PlayStation's doing very well and people are obviously being attracted to it in a major way.

And while this isn't as off kilter in my opinion as The Intergalactic response was, it's becoming a trend that's so predictable that I'm not even entirely sure what you want... like, literally, I don't know what people want and people say that we want first party games... like you just got a new one... they just showed you a new one and these don't grow on trees, there's only so many first-party teams they're not going to announce three in a show... it's not E3

I was like, and I don't mean it, but it's like this kind of stuff makes me wonder if I should just retire I'm being honest with you.. where it's like I feel so disconnected from that I wonder if I'm even speaking to anyone anymore when I when I see reactions like that to that showcase... like it's this calamitous horrifying thing and not at best above average in my opinion, based on the fact that I've seen every PlayStation showcase ever.

 

[KimDongHwan]

"we want more first party games", he lists one. People in this forum have listed how ridiculous was the PS3 and PS4 era, where Sony was pumping entire trilogies for multiple franchises during the same generation. I get that now things are not like that, but to confuse the sentiment of what we lost vs that we should be happy about anyyyy first party launch it's been disingenuous. And I am saying this by been super excited about Saros

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

"we want more first party games", he lists one. People in this forum have listed how ridiculous was the PS3 and PS4 era, where Sony was pumping entire trilogies for multiple franchises during the same generation. I get that now things are not like that, but to confuse the sentiment of what we lost vs that we should be happy about anyyyy first party launch it's been disingenuous. And I am saying this by been super excited about Saros

It's not disingenuous. We never had major announcements at TGA, followed by another major announcement at a February State of Play only 2 months later that revealed another first party game. You got these announcements all at once at one show each year (typically, not always - obviously there are exceptions going back to the PS3 era). As he said, the games are still coming and there's plenty they have revealed that we know is in the pipeline. Insomniac continues to have multiple games each generation like they have in the past. No doubt games take longer to develop in general, but there's still usually multiple major releasing every single year from first and second party.

 

[AJUMP23]

I don’t care if it is good I want to make jokes. I do the same for Xbox. But I respect Nintendo too much.

 

[Topher]

 

[bitbydeath]

It was good… for a state of play.
Think we have to get used to announcements being scattered across the year instead of single massive events.

 

[Bumblebeetuna]

If this were a normal gen where these meh looking games were supplemented by the usual Sony bangers then it would have been a fine showcase. In this gen though when Sony has given us basically nothing but remasters and sequels, we got a remaster and a sequel. A remaster of an average open world title no one asked for to boot. It wasn’t a very good showcase.

Also weird how when Colin is talking about Concords budget he is full of shit and dead to you but when he shares your opinion on a SoP he’s good again

 

[Syphon Filter]

colin is a known sony fanboy like you tc. so not surprised he is damage controlling for sonys terrible state of play.

 

[Danny Dudekisser]

It was a great showcase for people who like to talk about video games.

Not so much if you want to play them.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

The fact that he has to talk about "nonexistent" negativity, it shows that the negativity is real and "massively growing ".

Gamers are winning.

 

[ssringo]

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

I'm so glad Colin doesn't participate in hot take negativity.

 

[Ashamam]

Also weird how when Colin is talking about Concords budget he is full of shit and dead to you but when he shares your opinion on a SoP he’s good again

It's weird to look at individual arguments in isolation and make up your mind whether you agree with them?? Seems weird to me not to, but hey it's a tribal world we live in now I guess and apparently you are one of them or one of us.

 

[bundylove]

Imagine we are in 4 years past launch of the switch 2 and there was no mario or zelda game. Only a joshy or maybe sole donkey kong.....the way you would feel about it is the way i feel about sony

 

[Vaquilla]

Colin Moriarty of "The Vita will beat the 3DS" fame, lmao

 

[semiconscious]

hell, moriarty a creature of the industry. his income's directly tied to it. of course it can never do wrong...

 

[Kacho]

Colin is too much of a fanboy to take seriously on this topic.

There were some good games there but nothing that will make someone rush out and buy a PlayStation. Housemarque appeals to about 1-2 million diehard PlayStation players and they already own consoles.

 

[Ashamam]

colin is a known sony fanboy like you tc. so not surprised he is damage controlling for sonys terrible state of play.

Trying to work out how his video on Sony GAAS fits into your theory.



Oh wait it doesn't.

 

[LectureMaster]

Am I having a Deja vu?

 

[CLW]

The Customer wants/misses the BIG show where the next 1-2 years is laid out.

For a state of play it was “fine”

People don’t want a “standard” SOP they want to see what the hell is Sony going to do to end PS5/launch PS6 now that GAAS has completely missed

 

[Topher]

Colin is too much of a fanboy to take seriously on this topic.

There were some good games there but nothing that will make someone rush out and buy a PlayStation. Housemarque appeals to about 1-2 million diehard PlayStation players and they already own consoles.

Sure, but I don't think that is really at odds with what Colin is saying here. Folks who were massively "disappointed" in that State of Play truly did have their expectations far too high. We've seen really good and even great State of Plays before and we've seen absolutely shit. This was neither.

 

[Kacho]

Sure, but I don't think that is really at odds with what Colin is saying here. Folks who were massively "disappointed" in that State of Play truly did have their expectations far too high. We've seen really good and even great State of Plays before and we've seen absolutely shit. This was neither.

It’s subjective. Colin isn’t an authority on this.

 

[FoxMcChief]

Sure, but I don't think that is really at odds with what Colin is saying here. Folks who were massively "disappointed" in that State of Play truly did have their expectations far too high. We've seen really good and even great State of Plays before and we've seen absolutely shit. This was neither.

It was pretty shitty.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

Imagine we are in 4 years from launch of the switch and there was no mario or zelda game. Only a joshy or maybe sole donkey kong.....the way you would feel about it is the way i feel about sony

We are 4 years in and we've had 2 spider-man games, a Ratchet and Clank game, a Horizon game, a God of War Game, and a full fledged AstroBot game. Not even counting non-franchise tentpole type titles and new IP (of which there's a lot)

I'm not sure what you meant by that statement, exactly.

 

[Topher]

It’s subjective. Colin isn’t an authority on this.

I agree. Just his opinion.

Just like this one....

It was pretty shitty.

 

[Ristifer]

Also Colin:

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

Am I having a Deja vu?

I'm not a robot.

I can agree/disagree with people's takes and not have to take a binary stance. I enjoy Colin's comments, I think he's dead right on some things, dead wrong on others, and also inbetween on a lot of topics.

Nuance.

 

[Kacho]

I agree. Just his opinion.

Just like this one....

Exactly. It will be impossible to convince people who thought it was shit that it wasn’t and vice versa.

 

[Northeastmonk]

It’s insane. You could have something awesome and people would all over it just because. This is why we have Geoff Keighley doing his thing. He doesn’t talk about what he dislikes. It’s just constant praise and he keeps the ball rolling.

 

[lughnasadh123]

While there is definitely some room for improvement, true for everything, there's a clear case of some people far more interested in shitting on Sony as a brand than playing their games. Most of those are stuck in the past of what Sony used to be for them unable to reconcile it's a different company today for a good reason. Fuck it, let people wallow in their misery, we're still getting stuff despite the "no games" bullshit people want to push.

 

[Cert.in.Death]

Welcome to the internet, what year is it? Oh it doesn’t matter, it’s always been this way.

 

[Kacho]

While there is definitely some room for improvement, true for everything, there's a clear case of some people far more interested in shitting on Sony as a brand than playing their games. Most of those are stuck in the past of what Sony used to be for them unable to reconcile it's a different company today for a good reason. Fuck it, let people wallow in their misery, we're still getting stuff despite the "no games" bullshit people want to push.

It's clear people's expectations are high and the realities of modern game development work against those expectations.

 

[Hollowpoint5557]

"Leave Sony alone you guys, they try real hard. " - Some Sony cry baby shill.

 

[Mibu no ookami]

We've seen that individually the games at the State of Play were positively received.

I think the problem with the perception around the State of Play itself is more nuanced than someone like Colin can comprehend.

People aren't viewing the SoP in a vacuum. People didn't want a SoP to begin with, they wanted a showcase. So when you're already disappointed from the get go, it's not likely you'll go up from there.

Sony has a presentation problem more than anything else. They aren't doing a good enough job curating the games they're showing. If I were to show anyone 40 games, the majority of people aren't going to be interested in more than 5 or 6 games. So watching a show filled with games you're not interested in only to end the show with a CG trailer showing no gameplay... yeah, that's not a great way to end a show.

The Day's Gone Remaster didn't help the narrative either, though Sony has always done remasters.

Sony has a perception problem and that's not a hot take to point that out. It's like the NBA All-Star game with Kevin Hart actively shitting on the game because big men are shooting 3s. People watching aren't going to perceive that well, especially if they miss a bunch in a row right after he says that.

 

[Fbh]

I like Colin overall and I listed to Sacred Symbols almost every week. I even agree with the point he brings up frequently about feeling disconnected with all the people constantly whining about there being "no games" and "nothing to play" while in reality we are getting tons of cool games all the time.

But that was a shit state of play

 

[ZehDon]

... That was, I would think, one of the better (if not one of the best) states of play actually, in my opinion...

Lol, trash opinion goes in the trash.

Engage with the world in front of you instead of the one in your head. Across my social media, I didn't see much enthusiasm stemming from Sony's latest showcase - apart from remaster memes, which were great. That's not "fanboys" and "grifters", that's just folks tuning in and not seeing much to be excited about. The negativity centered around Sony putting on a song dance for a bunch of games that could've just dropped their trailers on YouTube to the same effect. Asking people to tune in with popcorn for a B-side roster rightfully isn't all that enjoyable. Xbox grew the common sense of announcing what's in the show before, or at least sandwiching the B-tier amongst the heavy hitters to justify the whole pageant. Sony knows it doesn't really have to try anymore, so it isn't, and it's faithful aren't letting the narrative go. Colin and this forum are a great example of this right now: Sony phones in a dull show, which every platform holder has done before, and yet we're being told point blank "it was one of the best" States of Play ever. Ever. I mean, that's just silly. But I guess Sony never misses, even when they do.

 

[Mibu no ookami]

It's clear people's expectations are high and the realities of modern game development work against those expectations.

If Sony did a showcase last week that showed the following games I don't think there would be complaints:

Ghost of Yotei - They showed this in what September or October? It's releasing this year, but they can't show it yet?
Intergalactic - Could have waited to show the trailer from TGA
Saros - Obviously the showed it in the SoP
MLB The Show 25 - This game is literally coming out in like a month
Marathon - If this game is still coming out this year, they're going to have to show it soon
Death Stranding 2 - Literally have an event dedicated to it in March...
Lost Soul Aside - Showed it at the SoP
Day's Gone Remaster

Hell add to that could have held off announcing Spider-Man 2 and Last of Us 2 for PC until this show and delayed Spider-Man 2 until it was actually ready to launch.

That would have been a hell of a showcase...

 

[Punished Miku]

Guys if you dont change your vote to an A Colin is seriously going to retire

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

Not perfect because no Bloodborne.

Solid B

 

[XXL]

Guys if you dont change your vote to an A Colin is seriously going to retire

Everyone just needs to watch it twice.

 

[FoxMcChief]

Everyone just needs to watch it twice.

 

[tTHANOSs]

"we want more first party games", he lists one. People in this forum have listed how ridiculous was the PS3 and PS4 era, where Sony was pumping entire trilogies for multiple franchises during the same generation. I get that now things are not like that, but to confuse the sentiment of what we lost vs that we should be happy about anyyyy first party launch it's been disingenuous. And I am saying this by been super excited about Saros

Game dev time is longer than it used to be. We all understand that yet still complain. Unless you want your ps5 game to look like it was made in 2008 gotta be patient. shit takes time

 

[vaibhavpisal]

Sony is backstabbing their die hards by making GAAS and porting SP games to PC.

Everyone bought PS5 based on PS4 which had SP titles that were high budget. Now they just want more revenue and want to invest less in games and make experimental GAAS.

 

[FoxMcChief]

Game dev time is longer than it used to be. We all understand that yet still complain. Unless you want your ps5 game to look like it was made in 2008 gotta be patient. shit takes time

Kingdom Come says hi.

 

[Punished Miku]

Everyone just needs to watch it twice.

I like Hellblade. I dont cry about other people not agreeing and threaten to retire over it lol. Its other people that try and insist I change my mind. I dont insist anything for anyone else.

 

[S0ULZB0URNE]

Sony is backstabbing their die hards by making GAAS and porting SP games to PC.

Everyone bought PS5 based on PS4 which had SP titles that were high budget. Now they just want more revenue and want to invest less in games and make experimental GAAS.

 

[tTHANOSs]

Kingdom Come says hi.

development started on that game in 2019?

 

[poppabk]

I'm not a robot.

I can agree/disagree with people's takes and not have to take a binary stance. I enjoy Colin's comments, I think he's dead right on some things, dead wrong on others, and also inbetween on a lot of topics.

Nuance.

Yep that what I think when I see a James Sawyer Ford post. Nuance.
It's like I never know if you are going to agree with something positive about Sony, or disagree with negativity about Sony.

 

[LectureMaster]

Sure, but I don't think that is really at odds with what Colin is saying here. Folks who were massively "disappointed" in that State of Play truly did have their expectations far too high. We've seen really good and even great State of Plays before and we've seen absolutely shit. This was neither.

From what I've seen, the original SOP rating thread folks had pretty much a reaction in line of what you said, the poll results show.

It was till the viewership records thread popped up, some Sony fans started to act like this is a greatest show and all those C and below ratings are GAF bubbles.

 

[ProtoByte]

Yeah, no. The cope is strong with this one. I wasn't disappointed in the SOP - didn't watch live because I was expecting trash.

Whether or not it's a SOP or Showcase doesn't matter. People simply are not satiated or impressed. 2 million took time out of their day to tune in; Sony is going on 2 years of having no Showcase after their last, which also came after a 18 month hiatus, was terrible; and they're coming off a year where they tallied up to at least 9 cancelled projects and an industry-defining embarrassment in Concord.

And they put forward a bunch of crappy looking slop that no one is going to buy or play, yet another unimpressive remaster to a game that is already back-compat with a PS5 patch, whose creators they allowed to get BTFO'd and whose sequel was shitcanned, from a studio that just wasted 5 years on a canned live service project.

Saros is a new in name only IP that is aping Returnal, which sold like shit. CGI trailers and B-list actors do not impress anyone anymore.

This is not what people who remember the PS2, PS3 or PS4 are spending 500-700 USD on a next gen console in 2025 for.
Game companies need to realize that they're not just competing with each other, but everything else that people can choose to spend their leisure time, money and attention on. We've waited. We went through an extended cross gen period. The first party games are not delivering on the level they should be. The third party AAA or high-grade indies are even less enticing on top of being less frequently released.

There's no excuse for the mismanagement of PS this gen, and no reason why we shouldn't be expecting to see games that actually impress.