Randolph Freelander
Member
Yes. At the end of the day, the outcome will rule the day. The blown calls will be a footnote.
Late add:
Even after tonight's debacle in Durham, Pac-12 still gets dumped on.
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College Football 2015 Week Nine Thread: Clemson, Clemsoned
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Yes. At the end of the day, the outcome will rule the day. The blown calls will be a footnote.
Late add:
Even after tonight's debacle in Durham, Pac-12 still gets dumped on.
Rafa=FedKilla
Banned
No it doesn't, it's the deepest conference in the country.
Our refs being shit isn't anything new.
It should be a weekly narrative, honestly - how are these guys still so terrible at their jobs?
anotherVegan
Member
Are the Gators that good, or is UGA just that horrible this year?
Anyway, go Gators!
Anyway, go Gators!
Sirpopopop
Member
Man... I can't wait until the Schiano era players leave. Once Flood gets all his guys in, then Rutgers is going to be really rolling.
Flood is working on recruiting and he's going to get this fixed. He's got a great class coming in with one four star recruit. He's filled all the holes on the roster.
Yesterday's loss was on Schiano. Flood did a great job, per usual, with the parts that he had.
Flood is working on recruiting and he's going to get this fixed. He's got a great class coming in with one four star recruit. He's filled all the holes on the roster.
Yesterday's loss was on Schiano. Flood did a great job, per usual, with the parts that he had.
bucknuticus
Member
.@CollegeSpun: Columbus Cop, Also A Michigan Fan, Reportedly Bragged About J.T. Barretts Citation To OSU Fans https://t.co/YbEwUXjvBC
outunderthestars
Banned
Seriously? This is the angle you're gonna take on this one?
bucknuticus
Member
I'm not taking any angle on it, I also highly doubt it's even true. JT still is a bonehead
ErnieMcCracken
Member
Then why post it?
outunderthestars
Banned
Hopefully this is the week that App State cracks the top 25. Their only loss came to Clemson. 
Frustrated_Grunt
Member
NC State assistant coach to be punished for shoving Deshaun Watson
Didn't seem like too much of a hit, but I get it.
Didn't seem like too much of a hit, but I get it.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
bucknuticus
Member
So many 0 and 1 loss teams, seems way higher then usual
GoldenEye 007
Member
If Navy wins next game along with the rest of the currently ranked AAC AAC AAC teams, the American could end up with 4 ranked teams!
theprodigy
Member
The number of 1-loss teams is fairly normal actually, it's just the unusually high number of undefeated teams still remaining.
NEOPARADIGM
Banned
ACC should do the right thing and give that game to Duke. Seriously.
bucknuticus
Member
Miami no longer allowed to bitch about 2002 championship game
Bruce Feldman ‏@BruceFeldmanCFB
The ACC has suspended the on-field officiating crew, the replay official & communicator that did the #UM #Duke game: https://t.co/pVdZMNHq1T
RutgersAl did such a glorious rant against Flood today. It was amazing.
Bruce Feldman ‏@BruceFeldmanCFB
The ACC has suspended the on-field officiating crew, the replay official & communicator that did the #UM #Duke game: https://t.co/pVdZMNHq1T
As a sidenote here, the NFL rule on offensive penalties at the end of halves is much better. There's no scenario in which an untimed down after an offensive penalty ever makes sense.
GoldenEye 007
Member
Just saw that. Play was bullshit but goddamn that's such a great response.
Randolph Freelander
Member
This is a travesty, a sham, and a mockery.
That's right. It's a traveshamockery.
That's right. It's a traveshamockery.
Azwethinkweiz
Member
Because you can't.
It's bullshit if you ask me.
I think it's safe to say that UGA is in a heap of trouble, when they started their 3rd string QB, and had their 2nd string QB punting the ball. Their offense is broken without Chubb.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Yep. Absolute garbage that decision can't be reversed.
It was the last play of the game. It's not like a missed hold early in the 2nd. It was clearly thr main reason the game ended as it did, and there is zero reason they shouldn't be able to reverse it.
It was the last play of the game. It's not like a missed hold early in the 2nd. It was clearly thr main reason the game ended as it did, and there is zero reason they shouldn't be able to reverse it.
Grover Cleveland
Member
I love how the ACC's only response is "welp, yeah yall got screwed. Thems the breaks tho". As if suspending refs makes anything better for Duke.
Oh well, basketball season starts in two weeks.
Oh well, basketball season starts in two weeks.
Frustrated_Grunt
Member
Does any sport organization overturn games after the fact? Would really set a precedent they're not ready to take.
AP Poll
1. Ohio State
2. Baylor
3. Clemson
4. LSU
5. TCU
6. Michigan State
7. Alabama
8. Notre Dame
9. Stanford
10. Iowa
11. Florida
12. Oklahoma State
13. Utah
14. Oklahoma
15. Memphis
16. Michigan
17. Florida State
18. Houston
19. Ole Miss
20. Toledo
21. North Carolina
22. UCLA
23. Temple
24. Mississippi State
25. Texas A&M
1. Ohio State
2. Baylor
3. Clemson
4. LSU
5. TCU
6. Michigan State
7. Alabama
8. Notre Dame
9. Stanford
10. Iowa
11. Florida
12. Oklahoma State
13. Utah
14. Oklahoma
15. Memphis
16. Michigan
17. Florida State
18. Houston
19. Ole Miss
20. Toledo
21. North Carolina
22. UCLA
23. Temple
24. Mississippi State
25. Texas A&M
I agree that you should get into a habit of changing the outcome of a game after the fact for almost all cases. You just don't know what would've / could've happened.
This is the sole exception.
1) The play was already reviewable.
2) The correct call was visible on replay.
3) There is a clear, definite outcome if the play had been called correctly, because the game would be over with 0:00 on the clock. No untimed down would have occurred.
Now if the knee hadn't been down, that would be a different story. Since we have no way of knowing what would have happened on the last untimed down, however unlikely, the outcome should stand, and the refs should be punished for missing it.
But we do know.
I live in Maryland. I shouldn't care about Duke this much, but I hate seeing this.
ErnieMcCracken
Member
Has the outcome of a game ever been changed after the fact? Honest question.
GoldenEye 007
Member
Horse racing and the Olympics/international events maybe? That's probably it.
This is unique as it was the final play and the missed penalty would have ended the game, though. I'm sure the many lawyers and admin that write the rulebooks could build in specific situations like this where the game would have ended.
outunderthestars
Banned
Amazing....
GoldenEye 007
Member
The knee down would have. Everything else, though, would have resulted in a dead ball penalty after the TD or untimed down. Penalty was the wrong word as a knee down isn't a penalty lol.
The penalty would have given Miami an untimed down.
The knee is what should've ended the game, as the ACC statement itself says.
Purple Cheeto
Member
In baseball if a bad call is made you can choose to play a game under protest. The tape is then set to the league office and if they decide you were right the game will be replayed from the point you declared you were playing under protest.
I can't think of a single instance where it actually worked though.
I can't think of a single instance where it actually worked though.
Pine tar game?
perfectchaos007
Member
The amount of resources that would have to be used to replay that kickoff with 6 seconds left on a future date in Duke's stadium is probably too much. There's a 99.9% chance that Miami won't be able to repeat the miracle but with that said, it may be the only way to "make it right".
The George Brett pine tar incident in 1983 is the only one that comes to mind.
Purple Cheeto
Member
Ah yes, I thought that was different but it was indeed a protest game.
Retrosheet has a full list:
http://www.retrosheet.org/protests.htm
You are correct. This is also the theory that says if the snap for the PAT is bobbled, everyone on the offense should commit as much holding as necessary to get the two point conversion so that the defense had to let you take another attempt.
Also see Bielema's abuse of the stupid clock rules to run out the game by repeatedly being offsides on the kickoff.