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hey guys, read this over at cbr forums and wanted to let this crew know:

Barnes and noble are running a buy 2 get the 3rd free on DC books including Vertigo, even pre-orders.

So....buy stuff?

i'm in for American Vampire vol 3 and 4 HC along with Batman Earth One, and then Batman Inc OHC, Batman Black GLove Deluxe, and Y the last man vol 3 to round out my Y set.

Good times? Also those email discount codes from B/N apply too if you have one and books with pre-orders ship when the last book is out, so that might be a downer, group appropriately.
 
Cyclops is a boss now. Too bad him and the X-men pretty much have to lose AvX. The whole thing has been disappointing as hell.
 
hey guys, read this over at cbr forums and wanted to let this crew know:

Barnes and noble are running a buy 2 get the 3rd free on DC books including Vertigo, even pre-orders.

So....buy stuff?

i'm in for American Vampire vol 3 and 4 HC along with Batman Earth One, and then Batman Inc OHC, Batman Black GLove Deluxe, and Y the last man vol 3 to round out my Y set.

Good times? Also those email discount codes from B/N apply too if you have one and books with pre-orders ship when the last book is out, so that might be a downer, group appropriately.

Damn, I want Absolute Death, but nothing else seems to grab me. Is Final Crisis any good?
 
Storm should just fight Cyclops. She won last time

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and the time before that

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She wouldn't win shit if Cyclops would take off the goggles like a man and just fucking vaporize her ass.
 
I can explain the evil Reed thing.... sort of.

Beware: Current Loeb... so didn't read.

He wanted to conquer the world to prevent another Ultimatum I think. The ultimates and everyone stopped and Ben scarred him and left him in the Negative Dimension thus he created the Children as a perfect race.

Actually, it wasn't Loeb at all. It was Bendis. It actually made sense really.

First, you have to realize that Ultimate Reed was really fucked up. His father was abusive, can't remember if physically but definitely mentally. When Reed was picked up by the think tank, his father wasn't proud of his accomplishments, he just wanted to know how much money he would make. Yet Reed loved him anyways. His dad never checked up on him or allowed his mom to either. Reed's dad would always be disappointed in his son. When there was reports of his death, his dad didnt care to find out why, he just wondered if that means he would stop getting the checks. This really fucked Reed up. When his family died in Ultimatum, he just finally snapped. Reed was always pretty disturbed, which is what made the Doom/Reed mirror different. Unfortunately, they kinda blew the Doom/Reed thing
 
Actually, it wasn't Loeb at all. It was Bendis. It actually made sense really.

First, you have to realize that Ultimate Reed was really fucked up. His father was abusive, can't remember if physically but definitely mentally. When Reed was picked up by the think tank, his father wasn't proud of his accomplishments, he just wanted to know how much money he would make. Yet Reed loved him anyways. His dad never checked up on him or allowed his mom to either. Reed's dad would always be disappointed in his son. When there was reports of his death, his dad didnt care to find out why, he just wondered if that means he would stop getting the checks. This really fucked Reed up. When his family died in Ultimatum, he just finally snapped. Reed was always pretty disturbed, which is what made the Doom/Reed mirror different. Unfortunately, they kinda blew the Doom/Reed thing

That does explain Reed's actions a bit more.

Mother of god, what could he possibly do to Spidey that hasn't been done to the poor guy before?

Real Deal Uncle Ben molested him.
 
Oops. Already read 1-6 and 13-14 (which I've liked a lot) The first part felt a bit all over the place though. Divided we Fall is pretty cool so far. I almost want to check out the side stories with it.

Still 3.99 is such a pain in the ass price point....I'll keep buying though.



Cool any thoughts on Ultimate Haweye and Ultimate Captain America?

Are you referring to the awesome Hickman/Ribic Ultimates, or the terribad Loeb/JoeMad Ultimates. It's Loeb that you want to avoid like a piss covered tramp, but the Hickman run is really good. And if you are reading that, then get Ultimate Hawkeye too, the stories run parallel and are weaved together a bit at the end.
 
I haven't read any comics in ages. I wonder what I'm missing out on.

Anyone here have a recommendation for something relatively new that I could pick up from the beginning? Maybe something with a vigilante bent to it?

Failing that, anyone have a decent publisher to recommend?

This question is so nebulous that it's almost impossible to answer, but here goes. You need either Scott Snyder's Batman (vol 1 available in hardcover right now, vol 2 later) or Greg Rucka's Punisher from the sounds of it. Maybe Mark Waid's Daredevil but you might want to hold on because they're doing a really nice hardcover of the first year soon. All of these books are around a year old and so are easy to catch up on.

As for publishers, having loyalty is a bit like being loyal to a movie studio or a major music label, ie mostly meaningless. You're best off following the best writers in the industry, much more rewarding. The names I've given above are a fine place to start.

The only publisher I would recommend checking stuff out from would be Image. They're been on a mad tear this year and have started a fistful of excellent new books, most of which have free first issues on Comixology.
 
Rachel isn't dead or turned to goo. I kinda want to see one of the nates with the phoenix force.

Yeah but I wouldn't say that having your entire family dead, your father over the deep end, one of your uncles ruling the empire that slaughtered your family (is he still doing that?), and your mother's soul/spirit animal divided into five is a happy ending.

Then again, compared to MOST Phoenix users, just being alive IS a bonus, I guess.
 
Yeah but I wouldn't say that having your entire family dead, your father over the deep end, one of your uncles ruling the empire that slaughtered your family (is he still doing that?), and your mother's soul/spirit animal divided into five is a happy ending.

Then again, compared to MOST Phoenix users, just being alive IS a bonus, I guess.

She could be scattered to the cosmos. Being from the summers stock seems to be a deathwish. I wonder what corsair thinks of all the chaos thats come from his kids and decendants. If he wasn't dead that is.
 
i don't want to order a book that comes out in October and not get it until February when House of Secrets Omnibus ships XO I'd be spending $120, you'd think they could send out three shipments Xp

I'm sure the grouped shipping is partially responsible for them even pulling this off.

I'll probably avoid preorders altogether, or just see if I can group three together that come out around the same time.

Good time for me to load up on the rest of DMZ and Scalped, plus some random DC collections.
 
Still more DC dysfunctionality gold from Liefeld's twitter (collected into paragraph form by Graeme McMillan at Newsarama). Among other things, it explains a bit about why next week's Superman annual was scrapped at the last minute, and replaced by a different story with a different creative team (and no less than five pencillers).

Rob Liefeld said:
When I speak of re-write’s at DC, I’m speaking of having to implement the latest editorial directive. Mostly at the last minute. Deathstroke was left alone, mostly due to the fact that the sales on that series went up the most, furthest. GRIFTER is an important book to DC they want it to succeed. Grifter was supposed to be part of a huge fall cross-over. Grifter was to cross-over into a larger story with Helspont and the Daemonites. The other titles were Superman, Supergirl, Red Lantern… I was told that Voodoo was ending and to implement her into the story. I had to connect to the events in the Superman annual. Grifter was featured in the Superman annual, as was Hawkman. I wrote Grifter #13 and it placed him in the center of the Daemonite plot. I arrived at Comic-con to be informed that the Superman office changed their mind, whatever that means and there was now no fall cross-over. So issue #13 had to be re-written from page one. The Superman annual was also changed and Grifter was removed as was Hawkman. Voodoo still needed to be featured though as Grifter was her new home. All fine and good. You take a corporate assignment you take direction.

But when I speak of re-writes, they are of this nature and agenda. Then followed by, how are we going to get Grifter sales up? Again, part if the freelancer workload, but wanted clarification as to what I’m referencing in regards to re-writes. Not a dialogue change. After getting clearance on Grifter #0, late in the process, he could no longer be of alien heritage as I was writing him in issues #9-12. Took pride in making every change as fast as possible. But eventually U realize the loop is non-stop. I chose to exit-Loved the opportunity. Deathstroke had not been problematic, the smoothest sailing until the #0 and the co-opting of Dstroke origin by another office doing Team 7.. You roll up your sleeves and try to be fair dividing the baby up, fought to keep important plot and origin motives in the Dstroke book. Lots and lots of territorial fights. The entire time you must keep in mind that your book needs to show sales traction. loved being deep in the corporate culture for a year. Did my best to be a good team player, was well compensated.

Hawkman really worked, they let me rip, then there was an editorial shift and everything I’d laid out and was approved was unraveling. I stood my ground in defense of what I thought was a strong, positive vision. Felt the editor wanted to write the book himself, quit July 4…

On July 5th I was assured that there would be an editorial change, this cat had a bad track record and had previous creator conflicts. The top brass approves, is enthusiastic and then the editor says, let’s change things. You’re like, no, this is what has been approved… There was a directive of let’s make Helspont and important figure, let’s make him the focus. I like Helspont, no problem, then, sea change. And no, this isn’t juicy stuff, this is nuts and bolts stuff. Work process. The new corporate culture of both companies has never been more stressful because they are in the cross hairs of parent companies. Hope that clarifies the nature of changes, comes with the game if you accept the assignments. The burn out [is] accelerated on your workload.

There are plenty chairs that are being re-arranged as I type this. Guys on books now that won’t be there in January. Ann Nocenti, God bless her, read my Hawkman #0 and suggested that it be a dream, uncertain, something we could drag out… I said NO, the readers deserve clarity and certainty, a reward for their investment of the last 6 months. My editor entertained her notion… So I left. Then they said they would remove him. He was gone and 3 months of trying to undue what I’d started with previous editor was gone. By July, I had a new editor, my 3rd on Hawkman in 6 months.


And this sort of thing seems to extend all the way up to the highest levels at DC - for instance, this was the solicitation for Justice League #11:

• Batman , Cyborg and Aquaman battle Element Woman!

Element Woman hasn't appeared in the current arc at all, and it seems a fairly safe bet that the full team lineup teased at Comic-Con last year (back when Wonder Woman still had pants) will never actually happen.
 
Amazing.

I don't doubt things are also crazy at Marvel, but I feel like it actually shows in the books themselves. Full creative teams (not just artists) shifting after three issues or whatever. Yikes. Glad I jumped ship.
 
cant agree with this more. i hate his style, but that sounds like hell. and after the mcduffie shuffle, im not really suprised.

no one seems to have a clue what is going on. Why doesn't DC just do it like Marvel and have creative summits where everyone is present? Decide on the direction of your books and stick with it.
 
no one seems to have a clue what is going on. Why doesn't DC just do it like Marvel and have creative summits where everyone is present? Decide on the direction of your books and stick with it.

I never realized that but you're right. Marvel talks about them all the time and DC doesn't seem to.
 
Also, Greg Land finally got a book suited to his skills. Where it's a feature for the book to look like the movie(and it's cosplays)!

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Oh I am very pleased the Internet managed to answer my question in super-quick time. For those keeping score, I'd file this under a) Ultra Lazy.

First issue of your big new launch and they're still letting this clown pull this shit. How deeply depressing for all those talented kids that turn up to cons each year, portfolio in hand.
 
I don't know, I mean, there's like, a massive number of new 52 writers telling stories about how the editors are super okay with doing whatever crazy shit the writers wanted to do.

What I'm saying is, maybe Liefeld was on a leash because he's shit.
 
I don't know, I mean, there's like, a massive number of new 52 writers telling stories about how the editors are super okay with doing whatever crazy shit the writers wanted to do.

What I'm saying is, maybe Liefeld was on a leash because he's shit.

There are enough similar accounts (John Rozum on Static Shock, George Perez on Superman) to say that it's definitely not just Liefeld.
 
Scalped 60--hell of a good-bye. That scene with the
tombstones of all the important dead
is beautiful. Also, Lincoln's dog
Shunka
reminded me of Damian's cat in Batman 666. I hope Aaron does some more non-capes stuff soon.
 
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