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COMICS! |OT| January 2013. "Read more comics"? Now that's a resolution I can keep!

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jon bones

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Fantomex said:
Rightfully so. It' a great series. Really got slept on.
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yo for real. glad it's getting a second life with the omnibus edition

FoneBone said:
...Not really. I mean, content-wise, of course it's an all-ages book, but from a business perspective, they're targeting the brony crowd. That's why the book exists in the first place.
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it's not all-ages

it's for little girls

let it go

Colonel Nasty said:
These people are gonna ruin EVO
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why would they be at EVO? there's no my little pony fighting game is there?
 
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ReiGun

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jon bones said:
why would they be at EVO? there's no my little pony fighting game is there?
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There's an unofficial fan game in development called "Fighting is Magic." It's in the running for the final Evo spot, which will be decided by which community can raise the most donation money for breast cancer research. Bronies are bombarding the donation drive, and FiM is in the lead.

So yup. Ponies at Evo.
 
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jon bones

hot hot hanuman-on-man action
ReiGun said:
There's an unofficial fan game in development called "Fighting is Magic." It's in the running for the final Evo spot, which will be decided by which community can raise the most donation money for breast cancer research. Bronies are bombarding the donation drive, and FiM is in the lead.

So yup. Ponies at Evo.
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ugh

i mean, not like i go (and i'm not going to watch streams of people playing video games lol) but still, i feel bad for the kids who just want to go play some SF ya know?
 
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Fantomex

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I got some huge containers back from a house I used to live in, full of comics. I'm sorting through New X-Mens Morrisons run, Mr Majestic, Wolverine drawn by Silvestri, Deathblow by Jim Lee as well as the Batman run by Jim Lee. Good o'l days where also making me feel old and dumb, I mean I had DV8 by Ramos, Stormwatch by I don't know who and those dumb Sourcebooks that cost 3.99 with walls of text and only a few splash pages. Thankfully I came across this comic book. One of my favorite comic book covers anywhere. Quesada has chops. He can really switch his style and only the good ones can do that.

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jon bones said:
yo for real. glad it's getting a second life with the omnibus edition



it's not all-ages

it's for little girls

let it go



why would they be at EVO? there's no my little pony fighting game is there?
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And you know that how? Does the fact that the comic and the show have exactly the same kind of humour, characters, style, stories and deepness to them have anything to do with the giant difference you appearantly made up on the spot? Because I surely think you didn't read or watch any of those two, because you would know that then.

Maybe you're the one who should "let it go".

jon bones said:
ugh

i mean, not like i go (and i'm not going to watch streams of people playing video games lol) but still, i feel bad for the kids who just want to go play some SF ya know?
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Right. Those guys on the SF/Evo boards who already saw lots about the game and admitted it looks pretty great you mean. I'm sure they will be devastated.
What I don't get though is how a non-finished game is actually part of the tournament this year, instead of just being at some booth. But I don't know much about EVO though.
 
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Supermanisdead

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Man, NYX was such a good miniseries. Shame that they ruined X-23 immediately after with some Christopher Yost/Craig Kyle torture porn. Worst writers ever argghhh.
 
Jedeye Sniv

Jedeye Sniv

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kswiston said:
What I know is this:

At every comics shop I have regularly frequented in the past, if I have a decent sized pull list (10-15 titles a month), the owner will give me at decent discount on new books. Typically 15-20%. Sometimes higher. This would mean paying $3.20-3.40 for a book with a $4 cover price.

If I was to buy my books on DCBS, I would get 40% off regular cover price (not counting a flat shipping fee). This would mean paying $2.40 for a book with a cover price of $4.

All of these retailers need to make enough money to stay in business. If they are giving me 15-40% off, their margin is a lot bigger than that. Furthermore, Diamond doesn't distribute books for free, so add their cut in.

Once they have given the retailer and Diamond their cut, Marvel/DC/Image/Whoever also have to pay to get the book printed. I am sure the big 2 are getting a good deal on printing considering they are ordering over a million books a month each, but the cost isn't negligible.

After paying all of those cuts and fees, what are Marvel and DC left with? Maybe 30-35% of cover price? Potentially less than that?

There is no reason why digital copies couldn't be $1.99 each on DAY 1, other than the fact that it would potentially hurt the specialty shops. Publishers would be making the same amount of revenue (or more) per book (assuming a 30% cut from Comixology), and I am sure digital sales would increase dramatically. For old back issues where the cost of producing the comic (paying writers, artists, letterers, editors, etc) has already been covered, issues should be 99 cents. Not as part of some limited selection daily sale, but permanently.
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Amen brother!

Never gonna happen though. Why sell you a book for 1.99 when they can double ship 3.99 issues and we still buy them? (for the time being at least...)
 
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I got a batch of new comics today. Thor: God Of Thunder Issue #3-4, Captain America Issue #02, Avengers Issue #02, Iron Man Issue #4-5, Star Wars Issue #1 and Transformers Prime: Rage of the Dinobots #02. (Every Marvel is the marvel now series)

So far I only have read Thor but damn it is so good. The art where Thor looks at
the giant and slayed behemoth god
is so damn ace and impressive. I love it. The story is interesting too. Especially the different time periods. I am enjoying it a lot.
 
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LiQuid!

I proudly and openly admit to wishing death upon the mothers of people I don't like
BenjaminBirdie said:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/...arvel-comics-x-men-comic-book-series/1830971/

YESSSSSSSSSS
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Holy fuck. The comic gods have descended from on high and created a comic book made specifically for LiQuid!

The book's main star is Jubilee
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He gets it!
"I feel like as far as the X-Men go, the women are the X-Men," Wood explains. "Cyclops and Wolverine are big names, but taken as a whole, the women kind of rule the franchise.
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HE GETS IT!!
But he's also using the first handful of Morrison's New X-Men issues from 2001 as a "personal template for how you do what I'm doing now,"
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Hold me! Somebody hold me!!!
 
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Owzers

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I will be buying X-Men.....it's going to feel weird buying 3 x-men books since dropping the section of the marvel u altogether after messiah complex.
 
Jedeye Sniv

Jedeye Sniv

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BenjaminBirdie said:
The leaps and bounds the X-Books have made since then will blow your hair back, man. Crazy stuff.

Vive Les Mutants
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And the amount of damn books they publish will bankrupt you in months. Jump on! 3.99! Double shipping! Rotating artists! 12 books!

I don't think the big two can do anything right without also royally fucking it up at the same time.
 
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BenjaminBirdie

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Jedeye Sniv said:
And the amount of damn books they publish will bankrupt you in months. Jump on! 3.99! Double shipping! Rotating artists! 12 books!

I don't think the big two can do anything right without also royally fucking it up at the same time.
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I guess I have just enough disposable income to not be bothered, but obviously not everyone is in the same boat. I think that's another reason why the audience isn't expanding, for sure. You need to be in your thirties with a steady job to keep up with this shit.
 
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Parallax

best seen in the classic "Shadow of the Beast"
Jubilee gets to lead her own book, but x-man is still a d-lister? What was the point of bringing him back?
 
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Vermillion

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I'll pick it up if Storm does something awesome.

Well, like a string of things. I'm not super interested in the characters, but cool premise.
 
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Pie and Beans

Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
Alright, the X-book situation is irrevocably fucked. Things arent even separate teams anymore, just major overlap.

Also looks like WatXM has been relegated almost to spin-off status. Lame.
 
Jedeye Sniv

Jedeye Sniv

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BenjaminBirdie said:
I guess I have just enough disposable income to not be bothered, but obviously not everyone is in the same boat. I think that's another reason why the audience isn't expanding, for sure. You need to be in your thirties with a steady job to keep up with this shit.
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Like I am. It used to be that I never noticed or thought about my comics spend. But all these double shipping books are making me notice now. When I'm paying $8 per title it makes me reflect a lot more on the value proposition therein. Or the lack of one.

The problem with the X-Men right now is that it's pretty good, and I'd like to read most of the books. But the sheer price is making me think again. And it's not like these books are high art, they're disposable and I doubt I'll ever read them again. It's tricky.

The other problem with serving the 30 year old manbaby market is that eventually, these guys are going to have kids. And then the first thing that gets the chop will be the comics budget.
 
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BenjaminBirdie

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Jedeye Sniv said:
Like I am. It used to be that I never noticed or thought about my comics spend. But all these double shipping books are making me notice now. When I'm paying $8 per title it makes me reflect a lot more on the value proposition therein. Or the lack of one.

The problem with the X-Men right now is that it's pretty good, and I'd like to read most of the books. But the sheer price is making me think again. And it's not like these books are high art, they're disposable and I doubt I'll ever read them again. It's tricky.

The other problem with serving the 30 year old manbaby market is that eventually, these guys are going to have kids. And then the first thing that gets the chop will be the comics budget.
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My brain still never does the math on a series basis. As long as I stay around $40 a week (and I do) I don't get chuffed.
 
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Supermanisdead

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Parallax said:
While I agree with the latter, I don't understand the former
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All of Claremont's women were the most important in the 80s. Storm, Rogue, Psylocke, Shadowcat were all bigger than cannon fodder Wolverine and Colossus. Cyclops was booted off the team and slummed it with his highschool friends and Jean Grey over in X-Factor too. Even in New Mutants, it was basically all about Magik, Moonstar and Karma. And Exalibur was the Rachel/Kitty/Meggan show. It was my favourite time so I have a soft-spot for a women-focused X-Men.
 
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Spike Spiegel

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Supermanisdead said:
X-23 can burn in hell.
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She went there, twice in fact. Both times she got out. Didn't you read those stories?

slightconfuse said:
Jubilee has fans? If they didn't fall off the ship when he turned in to a vampire. IBM think they are giid
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Marjorie Liu brought Jubilee into the X-23 solo series to be BFFs with Laura and get her to live a little in the big Paris adventure. That and the vampire-blood-kiss-lesbian-subtext scenes generated a whole new legion of fans who wanted to see Logan's fanged daughter hang out with his clawed daughter on a regular basis. Which, of course, won't be happening because someone decided to stick Laura on Murderworld Island instead.
 
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Pie and Beans

Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
Why didnt they have the balls to name it X-Women then?

Even moreso now I dont get the point of the new Uncanny X-Force.
 
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BenjaminBirdie

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Supermanisdead said:
All of Claremont's women were the most important in the 80s. Storm, Rogue, Psylocke, Shadowcat were all bigger than cannon fodder Wolverine and Colossus. Cyclops was booted off the team and slummed it with his highschool friends and Jean Grey over in X-Factor too. Even in New Mutants, it was basically all about Magik, Moonstar and Karma. And Exalibur was the Rachel/Kitty/Meggan show. It was my favourite time so I have a soft-spot for a women-focused X-Men.
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This post is my life. Just add Widget.
 
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