Rafa=FedKilla
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Someone needs to tell Kirkman that dying anytime, any place, any where, drawn by anyone is not tension. It's just life and life is boring.
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COMICS! |OT| January 2013. "Read more comics"? Now that's a resolution I can keep!
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slightconfuse
Banned
I'm suprised Rick has lived for as Lon as he has
SpiderJerusalem
Banned
yea and Jubilee should be down below Marrow
I Keed! Thats a pretty good top 5 and my Rogue and Kitty are up there!
BlueScrote
Member
hey, lets post spoilers without any goddamn context as to what they are for.
slightconfuse
Banned
Affeinvasion
Member
Just got my trade of Captain Marvel. It's quite pretty all printed out. I stopped floppies after issue 3 so I'm looking forward to reading it.
This is a Loeb book, why isn't Sam punching the watcher?
Oh mah gerd it's the Watcher! Surely this must be an cosmic event of amazing importance that will shape the Marvel universe for years to come! Oh, wait it's Jeph Loeb fuck that hack. These clowns need to stop using the Watcher it doesn't mean jack shit anymore.
Rastafarian42
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Yeah DC needs to start doing sales like the Marvel monday ones it'd be a good chance to showcase some of their best runs on their characters.
BuddyJoeHooker
Member
Its more like publishers need a reason to have sales, like a new film release or something that is related to it. I want a New 52 sale. Good news is Grant Morrison New X-Men sale tomorrow.
Rafa=FedKilla
Banned
That's on sale like once a month. Hope JLA causes DC to have a sale. Would love Johns Hawkman run.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
Fraction making Kate Bishop a major character in Hawkeye was genius.
Speaking of Fraction, FF was my Marvel book of the week. What a great issue. I dumped Fantastic Four after issue 1, but I'm going to stick with FF for at least as long as Mike Allred is on the title.
WatXM and Avengers also had good issues. Not as sold on issue 1 of Young Avengers as some of you are, but I liked it (and the preview before this) enough to give it a few more issues to grow on me.
Uncanny X-Force #1 was serviceable. I'm curious to see where this arc is going, but I don't see myself on the title for the long run.
Uncanny Avengers will get until issue 6 because it is Remender, and because Cassaday is off the book in another issue, but those first 3 issues have definitely been the most disappointing books of the Marvel Now! initiative. I'm sure there are other series that are worse, but I never expected them to be good and thus skipped over them.
Speaking of Fraction, FF was my Marvel book of the week. What a great issue. I dumped Fantastic Four after issue 1, but I'm going to stick with FF for at least as long as Mike Allred is on the title.
WatXM and Avengers also had good issues. Not as sold on issue 1 of Young Avengers as some of you are, but I liked it (and the preview before this) enough to give it a few more issues to grow on me.
Uncanny X-Force #1 was serviceable. I'm curious to see where this arc is going, but I don't see myself on the title for the long run.
Uncanny Avengers will get until issue 6 because it is Remender, and because Cassaday is off the book in another issue, but those first 3 issues have definitely been the most disappointing books of the Marvel Now! initiative. I'm sure there are other series that are worse, but I never expected them to be good and thus skipped over them.
I'd wager most people cold on Young Avengers never read Phonogram. As a Phonogram fan seeing those two pair up for some stylish teen drama again after so long was literally the best birthday present I could have asked for. I highly recommend the 2nd volume of Phonogram for anybody that wants to get an idea of why I've been so excited for this book for months.
ViewtifulJC
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domestic teen drama was like the worst part of YA
Not domestic. Stylish. The scene with Kate and Noh-Varr was very Phonogram-ish. I wouldn't be surprised if it was like word for word a scene he took from a future issue of Phonogram. Well, up until the Skrull attack.
Supermanisdead
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I liked Phonogram - Marvel Boy dancing to 60's girlpop was awesome, but the Wiccan/Hulkling stuff in Young Avengers sucked ass. Bored. Someone kill these two ciphers already. Why are they not being crushed in Avengers Arena?
Oh god can you imagine that? Forced to fight to the death: two pretty boys in a relationship work through their issues with their fists. It ends with X-23 killing them both horribly.
Sidenote: I like the book, but fuck me with the teen drama stuff.
Why does everyone have such a hard time recognizing that that scene apparently served the purpose of 1. establishing that they were gay and boyfriends for new readers, and 2. putting that shit to rest. If it made a bad impression, that sucks, but it kinda needed to be handled because of the way Children's Crusade ended. If it didn't we would have had to endure however many issues of Wiccan just being a whiny bitch. At least this way it popped off and lead to the ridiculous shit with the parents.
-Pyromaniac-
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say that to my face buddy. What are you implying.
Honestly it didn't bother me, I just don't like relationship drama story lines.
UGH! I HATE YOU! How is she neutered?!
Supermanisdead
Member
They shouldn't even be included in this comic. They are the least interesting Young Avengers - and yes, that includes Stature. There's literally nothing to their character other than being gay teens in love. Every scene they have ever been in has been shit.
Her line near the end of that section. Something like "This is all I've ever really wanted." Fuuuuck off.
What he meant to say was "ahahaha, the internet is made up of 80s kids, of course Kitty is winning."
ViewtifulJC
Banned
McKelvie is good at everything except faces, but in the opposite way people whine about Frank "Da God of western comic storytelling" Quitely. Quitely will often sacrifice the attractiveness of his characters to get the exact facial reaction to match the story's needs. McKelvie has pretty characters, but most of them look alike, and he either over-states emotions(Billy's reaction to Teddy's return), or under-reacts to the situation(Kate Bishop is appearently having the time of her life, but you couldn't tell by that bored befuddled look she has. Billy's parents near the end look like they're reacting to a fart in the room or some shit). It's a weird disconnect.
Steve Dillion would sit in the middle I guess, who has like, 5-6 faces total or something? And yet he's an amazing storyteller, perfectly in-sync with his writer.
Steve Dillion would sit in the middle I guess, who has like, 5-6 faces total or something? And yet he's an amazing storyteller, perfectly in-sync with his writer.
You mean this amazing spread where she relishes in the fact that she's a superhero with no superpowers? Yeah, absolutely neutered.
You should go read this:
http://kierongillen.tumblr.com/post/40292277845/meet-the-team-hawkeye
kitty pryde is for lame-os and joss whedon (not mutually exclusive)!!
I think he's talking about the page before - where she's watching Marvel Boy dance but I don't really see what's wrong with that?
That's not what she's referring to. That line comes right after she says some shit about Noh-Varr dancing around to old music. The way it's written makes it sound like she's saying that's all she wants, making her seem totally neutered and not ambitious at all(which we know she is). Shitty line, why you heff to be mad?
Edit: And yeah you got the page totally wrong.
Especially when it's the first issue!
I'd have no problem with Wiccan and Hulking if they just stopped saying how much they love each other in every panel of every book they've ever been in.
Supermanisdead
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Kitty Pryde is an icon. There's not a lot of characters who have grown up like that over the years.
Ok, I see the line now. She's just being sexually liberated bro.
And I'm not mad, I'm sad because this is the only comic I want forever and I know it's gonna get shitcanned in 6 months because I'm defending it from all angles for some of the stupidest reasons. It's like you guys are lining up to kick me in the nuts.
Affeinvasion
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Nobody hates that they're gay. There are plenty of awesome gay characters in comics. We hate them because they are boring, uninteresting characters with lame-ass powers. Killing them off would make the needle move less than when they killed off Goliath.
It doesn't really come off as that to me. The idea isn't "Kate Bishop has no aspirations other than watching sexy boys dancing half-naked", it's "this seemingly minor moment is one of complete content". There are moments like that, y'know? Where everything's just...right.
I get it but it didn't come across as that to me. Super cheesy imo.
Yeah, it is but that's kinda why I dug it.
I don't hate Wiccan and Hulkling, but they are the least interesting members of the cast, and have already been in the focus of YA since the back part of the first volume. It would have been nice if this series started off with a different focus. Maybe that will be the case going forward, but Wiccan and Hulkling got more screen time than the other four characters combined in issue 1.
A. They have to fill the diversity quota with Eli benched
2. They're scene lead directly to what appears to be the main source of conflict for the first arc.
d. As I mentioned before that scene was necessary to put all the emo Billy shit to rest. I don't expect them to be making lovey dovey faces at each other and making out in every future issue.
Yo, if you don't want teen drama in your superhero book, DO NOT BUY THE SUPERHERO BOOK ABOUT TEENS. Drama is an integral part of the fucking Teen Experience. It's part of the package. You want super happy brain dead punch time, get something else, there's probably a book for you, written by Scott Lobdell.
It's truth but it hurts. I would love for a GOOD Teen Titans to be happening right now. DC is squandering the hell out of their teen heroes at the moment.
You are just an adorable bundle of rage aren't you?
Supermanisdead
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NO. Lobdell's Generation X is one of my favourite books ever and it's a master class on how to write a good teen super hero book. Wiccan and Hulkling are BALLS. Nothing will change these 2 facts.
I liked Young Avengers, still. 4/6 good characters is decent.
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