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COMICS! |OT| January 2015. So many variants you'd swear it's 1995 instead.

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KoruptData

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This doesn't spoil anything and you might look over it but this might be the first Bat Fist-Bump.

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CBTech

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Ok so I'm trying to catch up with Batman. I've read the first four trades, but I've noticed that there are three issues between Death of the Family and the start of Zero Year that seem have to do with Clayface that aren't collected at all. I take it these are more filler issues. Also I can't tell where issue 34 fits in. Is it mainly a tie in with Eternal?

Edit: I know Annuals tend to be issues that just flesh some of the background out. How good are the Batman annuals?
 
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GrandHarrier

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Killrion said:
Ok so I'm trying to catch up with Batman. I've read the first four trades, but I've noticed that there are three issues between Death of the Family and the start of Zero Year that seem have to do with Clayface that aren't collected at all. I take it these are more filler issues. Also I can't tell where issue 34 fits in. Is it mainly a tie in with Eternal?

Edit: I know Annuals tend to be issues that just flesh some of the background out. How good are the Batman annuals?
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Yes those are Clayface filler issues.

#34 is a one off. I believe it was a break issue for Capullo where they brought Scalero on to do it.

The Batman annuals have been consistently good to great imo.
 
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CBTech

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GrandHarrier said:
#34 is a one off. I believe it was a break issue for Capullo where they brought Scalero on to do it.

The Batman annuals have been consistently good to great imo.
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Ok, I won't pick up 34 and will probably pick up Annual 3 since it is a tie-in for Endgame. Not sure I'll pick up issues 18-20. 18 is a Requiem chapter dealing with the death of Damien and I highly doubt it will be anywhere near as good as the Batman and Robin one and 19-20 seem to be a quick one-off story that won't be too relevant.

Edit: Man, being years behind in comics I want to read is really expensive. DC really needs an unlimited service...
 
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tim1138

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Filthy Slug said:
All right, just finished CASANOVA. Fraction and the Brazilian Wonder Twins have smart, sexy, and tense comics down to a science. The whole scene with Cas out on the diving board is my version of comics perfection.

Also, yo, Dustin Harbin is fucking fantastic.
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What'd you think of the Chabon Metanauts story?
 
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GrandHarrier

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Killrion said:
Ok, I won't pick up 34 and will probably pick up Annual 3 since it is a tie-in for Endgame. Not sure I'll pick up issues 18-20. 18 is a Requiem chapter dealing with the death of Damien and I highly doubt it will be anywhere near as good as the Batman and Robin one and 19-20 seem to be a quick one-off story that won't be too relevant.

Edit: Man, being years behind in comics I want to read is really expensive. DC really needs an unlimited service...
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#28 is also a sneak peek at Batman Eternal circa #40ish so you can also skip that as well.
 
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Memento Mori

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Killrion said:
Ok so I'm trying to catch up with Batman. I've read the first four trades, but I've noticed that there are three issues between Death of the Family and the start of Zero Year that seem have to do with Clayface that aren't collected at all. I take it these are more filler issues. Also I can't tell where issue 34 fits in. Is it mainly a tie in with Eternal?

Edit: I know Annuals tend to be issues that just flesh some of the background out. How good are the Batman annuals?
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I think the Clayface issues are being collected in the sixth trade.
 
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KoruptData

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tim1138 said:
Read it last night, I love everything Parker is doing in his run. It's just a fun book.
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Agreed. Remember all the drama when JH Williams left Batwoman because DC wouldn't allow them to be married. Then Dan Didio saying that super heroes can't make that commitment. Here is Jeff Parker making a super hero couple not only work, but making it one of the books strengths. I love how Jeff Parker handles communication between Mera and Arthur with body language rather than words. He treats her as an equal which is really important. He understands what makes a healthy relationship. Really love this book.
 
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Nudull

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Shin Johnpv said:
Any talk about looking at what drives the sales? Or is it just this sold x and this sold y?
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Sales are determined by how many copies stores buy from Diamond. Pre-orders and stock selling out (leading to more printings) tend to help, as well as generally good word-of-mouth.
 
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Shin Johnpv

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Nudull said:
Sales are determined by how many copies stores buy from Diamond. Pre-orders and stock selling out (leading to more printings) tend to help, as well as generally good word-of-mouth.
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What I mean is, why is book X selling more than book y. As in, is it story, is it too long of an arc, is it the artwork. Its talking about the market and the consumer more than just raw numbers.
 
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GrandHarrier

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GAMEPROFF said:
Tell us what you have learned :D
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Shin Johnpv said:
Any talk about looking at what drives the sales? Or is it just this sold x and this sold y?
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Four months, four episodes down. They've all been fascinating. It's definitely more than just a guy reading a list of numbers. They actually don't do that. Numbers are given but they are generally exploring the top ten, then cherry picking interesting changes down the list. September's for example obviously had alot of talk of the effect of the gimmick month. December's was an examination of the "average month" and then alot of talk about Marvel's #1 relaunch strategies and the idea of the "rotating pull list slots" or how companies fight over transient sales. The ones where people only buy the book for an issue or two.

Sir Garbageman said:
Speaking of sales are there any numbers out there as to how much of the market has shifted to digital?
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There aren't alot of hard numbers. There are reports that said digital did like $90 million in 2013, with print doing $870 million. Most of the articles I've read said digital isn't really supplanting physical sales but is an additional source of access, as print sales continue to rise.
 
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Tawney Bomb

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I would like to go back to buying physical copies, but I just don't have the room to store them anymore.

Plus I can't buy them at 2AM when I feel like reading them.

You guys are slowly convincing me, just from my lurking to start buying ominbus(es)(i)(whateverthepluralis).
 
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GAMEPROFF

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Tawney Bomb said:
I would like to go back to buying physical copies, but I just don't have the room to store them anymore.

Plus I can't buy them at 2AM when I feel like reading them.

You guys are slowly convincing me, just from my lurking to start buying ominbus(es)(i)(whateverthepluralis).
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Big, oversized Comics are better as Tablets ever will be ;)
 
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whatsinaname

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GrandHarrier said:
Four months, four episodes down. They've all been fascinating. It's definitely more than just a guy reading a list of numbers. They actually don't do that. Numbers are given but they are generally exploring the top ten, then cherry picking interesting changes down the list. September's for example obviously had alot of talk of the effect of the gimmick month. December's was an examination of the "average month" and then alot of talk about Marvel's #1 relaunch strategies and the idea of the "rotating pull list slots" or how companies fight over transient sales. The ones where people only buy the book for an issue or two.



There aren't alot of hard numbers. There are reports that said digital did like $90 million in 2013, with print doing $870 million. Most of the articles I've read said digital isn't really supplanting physical sales but is an additional source of access, as print sales continue to rise.
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Which podcast is this?
 
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tim1138

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KoruptData said:
Agreed. Remember all the drama when JH Williams left Batwoman because DC wouldn't allow them to be married. Then Dan Didio saying that super heroes can't make that commitment. Here is Jeff Parker making a super hero couple not only work, but making it one of the books strengths. I love how Jeff Parker handles communication between Mera and Arthur with body language rather than words. He treats her as an equal which is really important. He understands what makes a healthy relationship. Really love this book.
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I believe after they made that announcement about the universe being too young for characters to start getting married it was revealed that Buddy and Ellen Baker (Animal Man) and Arthur and Mera were exempt due to their relationships being such integral parts of their characters. You are completely right though, Parker gets the characters and understands why they work so well together.
 
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Timo

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Serpentine said:
Effigy #1 (words by Tim Seeley, art by Marley Zarcone) was pretty decent. It's a new Vertigo book about a murder mystery and cultish celebrity culture. Main character is a washed up former child actress known for playing a sentai-esque space cop, now a real cop. I really liked the art but the opening pages kiiiiiinda made me wish Marley Zarcone was just drawing a space cop book.



I don't know how much stuff about "washed up celebs" and ~celebrity culture~ I need but this actually went in a different direction than i was expecting, so i'm on board.
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I got this because Marley was on it (we used to post on the same comic battle forum 10 years ago, love her art), and it was pretty ok. Seeley likes to make comics with female protagonists who kind of give up and become cops in their home town. Art ballin, waiting to see where the story goes.
 
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Vibranium

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GAMEPROFF

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This Collectorz App is shit, it doenst knows tons of famous books. It doesnt even lists books like Brubakers Captain America: Winter Soldier or Civil War... I want my 10€ back...
 
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