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COMICS!!! |OT| January 2017 This is the Dawning of the Age of Apocalypse

Superman #13
Beautiful family story with a heartbreaking ending. Damn. Superman cuts deep in the midst of fun family adventures with strong emotional components.

What a good book.

Superman #14
So we finally get into the Multiverse stuff. It was inevitable, and while we got a small taste of it in the Annual, we didn't go particularly deep. Now we get to really delve into it, and my guess for right now:
these Gatherers are taking Supermen and removing their powers to sell. My guess is that they took Kenan because he has the actual Earth 0 Superman's powers, whereas this Clark is an anomaly (that strangely seems to have caused a multiversal ripple via his interaction with Swamp Thing).

It's my best guess for now.

Superman #15
A lot of exposition and set-up, and it's always cool to see other Earths in the process, but hopefully next issue it'll pick up. I can't wait for Supes' next "And this is why you don't fuck with me and mine," speech, because those are always great. This issue goes to prove that, even though some of them might not be worth it, Superman views life as something special and that needs to be preserved. I mean, he
saves a Nazi Superman (granted in that particular story, said Nazi Superman didn't want to be a Nazi, but that's irrelevant)
.

Also my theory is shaping up and I would have loved to read a book about the Justice League of Assassins.

Supergirl #5
Not much to say except that IS A DAMN SUPERHERO COMIC. SUPERGIRL BEING ALL HEROIC AND SHIT. HELL YEAH.

It's pretty great

Supergirl: Being Super #1
As much as I love superheroes doing superhero stuff, I also enjoy seeing them outside of that. In situations that feel more real and relatable. That's what this book does, and I love it. The art and writing is great. There's a good cast of characters being developed in Kara's supporting ring. While being close to Clark's origins, there's enough difference to feel fresh in it's own right, though if I have to levy a major complaint with this, then that would be it. Though I found the zit scene to be kinda odd, I do like how it's a much more exaggerated version of the whole "teenager's first zit is a huge deal."

Overall this is a very good story. Though I do wish they had made the origin, or at least the environment, a bit different.
Caught up with Detective Comics.

I'm slowly coming to the realization that outside of Batgirl volume 3, Stephanie Brown is a garbage character.
How so? I don't think that at all.
I just assume that writers don't like her. She should've been the New 52 "trendy" Batgirl IMO.
She really should have, but Barbara is more recognizable.
 
Green Arrow #15
Man this issue is brutal. Like, genuinely brutal in a violent way. It has a lot of action, and a lot of violence, but it never feels gross or like it's gone too far. It was intense and even though he's a bit cheesy in the way his dialogue is delivered, this villain is pretty solid. What he represents in today's world (wanton police brutality) is incredibly transparent, but it works well and doesn't feel forced. And for all the shit I've given this book for feeling a bit too forced and on the nose, I somehow never realized the direct parallels to the real world this antagonists hold until it got laid out in front of me. Which either makes me dumb or makes that good storytelling. Either way, it works.

I especially loved two things about this issue more than anything: the way the art changes when they're in the prison is awesome. I loved looking at those pages. The other one is the final page, because it got me so hyped. This arc overall has been really good. Damn fine superhero comics indeed.

Nightwing #13
Maaaaaaan I called that shit a mile away. That was not difficult to see coming. Cool fight though. This is a very classic villain archetype, but I usually dig it. This time...eh. We don't get to know much about him prior to this, so it seems like a, "but he does it cuz he hates the evil guys, though!" Hopefully we get to know the character a bit more before the arc ends. On another note, however, I like how this feels very much like a sequel to the Bludhaven we knew before Flashpoint. No, not the site of a biohazard bomb, I mean a corrupt city with violent police, corrupt officials, assassins around every corner, and shady business deals. Like a "reformed" Bludhaven, based on what the detective says. I actually really like that, and taken that way, this new version of Bludhaven really grows on me. I genuinely makes it feel like a city of reformation, which is the theme that Seeley seems to be going for.

Damn this book gets better every time I read it.

Shade the Changing Girl #4
And the weird psychadelic, psychological, high school drama thriller continues.

Megan was the worst. The absolute worst. Literally no other word for it. Wait, actually, I believe that calling her a bonafide sociopath would also be on point. We find out more and more about why everyone is so scared of her and hates her so much. Even her own parents. I wonder what she did to Wes that made him so whipped, though? That's gonna be interesting for sure. We also find out the museum director's true motivations and intentions.

My personal theory on why Shade
can't seem to return to her old body: I don't think it has to do with the madness taking her. I think it has to do with Megan taking control of her body again. It's why we're seeing more and more of her memories, and why the madness might be getting worse. Megan is slowly trying to take back control of her body, and I damn near guarantee we're going to start seeing some Jekyll and Hyde stuff soon enough
.

Good issue as always.
 
I think Marvels best artist is Chris Samnee and DCs best artist is Jason Fabok. That was a tough choice between him and Ivan Reis.

What is your top artist for the big 2?

Toss up between Samnee and Marquez at Marvel. DC is currently Fabok, but Gleason is always good. Declan Shalvey if he was actually doing anything.
 
Need a quick Yay or Nay on The Spire here, tempted by the art, the concept and the fact that i really enjoyed Six Gun Gorilla but... does this actually deliver in a similar way?
 
I think Marvels best artist is Chris Samnee and DCs best artist is Jason Fabok. That was a tough choice between him and Ivan Reis.

What is your top artist for the big 2?

For DC I think I'd go with Jorge Jimenez. He'd also win the award for most dreamy.

I'm not really reading any Marvel except for Unstoppable Wasp right now. Based on stuff I'd read previously, I'd say Sara Pichelli.
 

TheFlow

Banned
Future Quest #8

Oh man the art change along with the more violent action is amazing. This is going to my favorite limited series I can tell. The best thing about this series is how it takes this old cartoon properties/characters and completely retool them. What they did with Mightor and the space ghost trio is fucking amazing.
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Messi

Member
Erica Hendersons art is fantastic and she is equal parts in making that book work. Also holy shit does she do a lot of work.
 

Owzers

Member
One could argue, that it was very dark humor but now after his speech and the confirmation that the Trump administration embraces orwellian historycorrection, this shit should stop.

I don't joke as much about it for those reasons, but I view the march as a bit late and wonder if everyone who marched voted. I'll continue to post the bare minimum about politics and focus on what really matters, Roman reigns being the most popular champ in wwe history, period.

Edit:got rid of more political junk because this place is about talking up comics or punching protocol.
 
Erica Hendersons art is fantastic and she is equal parts in making that book work. Also holy shit does she do a lot of work.


I mean I'm not gonna say anything about the quality because I'm no artist and can't assess that anyways. I just don't like the style at all. When she drew Taskmaster his mask looked very soft and lumpy, and a lot of the expressions just seem very off.

But I realize this is purely stylistic preference. I mean, my favorite Marvel artist is Humberto Ramos, and I know a lot of people hate his exaggerated proportions and style.
 

Messi

Member
I mean I'm not gonna say anything about the quality because I'm no artist and can't assess that anyways. I just don't like the style at all. When she drew Taskmaster his mask looked very soft and lumpy, and a lot of the expressions just seem very off.

But I realize this is purely stylistic preference. I mean, my favorite Marvel artist is Humberto Ramos, and I know a lot of people hate his exaggerated proportions and style.

I am not trying to call you out. I'm sure you get plenty of shit for liking Ramos lol
 
I am not trying to call you out. I'm sure you get plenty of shit for liking Ramos lol

Yeah I feel you. I will say that her art suits the tone of the comic wonderfully well, though. It's very cartoony and goofy, which is great for a comic like Squirrel Girl.

I don't love the art, but for Sg, I think it's fine. I'd just be kinda upset if she started drawing, like, The Avengers or something darker/serious, if that makes sense.

Edit: On the other hand, imagine Civil War II drawn by Henderson. That'd be HILARIOUS.
 

GAMEPROFF

Banned
I don't joke as much about it for those reasons, but I view the march as a bit late and wonder if everyone who marched voted. I'll continue to post the bare minimum about politics and focus on what really matters, Roman reigns being the most popular champ in wwe history, period.

Edit:got rid of more political junk because this place is about talking up comics or punching protocol.
Please dont understand me wrong, I didnt wanted to call you out in a mean way, just wanted to point out that it may not be so appropiated anymore.

Everythings fine^^
 
From Ellis' newsletter:

The Wild Storm #1 preview

As a matter of curiosity - I wrote the first six issues last year, and will be writing the next six this spring.

I understand there's been some confusion online as to whether it's ever right to punch a Nazi in the face. There is a compelling argument that all speech is equal and we should trust to the discourse to reveal these ideas for what they are and confidently expect them to be denounced and crushed out by the mechanisms of democracy and freedom.
All I can tell you is, from my perspective as an old English socialist and cultural liberal who is probably way to the woolly left from most of you and actually has a medal for services to free speech -- yes, it is always correct to punch Nazis. They lost the right to not be punched in the face when they started spouting genocidal ideologies that in living memory killed millions upon millions of people. And anyone who stands up and respectfully applauds their perfect right to say these things should probably also be punched, because they are clearly surplus to human requirements. Nazis do not need a hug. Nazis do not need to be indulged. Their world doesn't get better until you've been removed from it. Your false equivalences mean nothing. Their agenda is always, always, extermination. Nazis need a punch in the face.

(And the argument that such assaults allow Nazis to get more attention doesn't work so well when they were already going live on a national television network, because this is where we are now. This is how normalised their presence in our culture is.)

Glad we got that cleared up.
 

Owzers

Member
Please dont understand me wrong, I didnt wanted to call you out in a mean way, just wanted to point out that it may not be so appropiated anymore.

Everythings fine^^
More than fine, the suicide squad blu Ray is on sale for $10 at target and Best Buy.
 
From Ellis' newsletter:


Eh, still strongly disagree, with both this and Poodle's post yesterday after thinking on it, but not because I think the dude didn't deserve to be punched. Frankly, I agree with the parts about suppressing their movement.

You know how sometimes a friend is about to get into a fight with a real jerk? And if they throw a punch they might go to jail? It's like that. Maybe the punch is worth the jail, but it's not out of concern for the other guy I say I'm not really down with that. It's just wanting my friend to not wind up in jail.

Ever since this whole punch thing happened, all I've seen it do is divide people who should be on the same team. Pro-punch and anti-punch people seem to be at each other's throats much of the time, and that's really sad. I don't mean to sound like a concern troll or anything, but it's just -

I'd love it if punching Spencer made him think twice about speaking publicly again, but I don't think it will. I think he'll speak up again specifically hoping he DOES get punched again, because of how much attention it gets him. I think he loved getting punched, and I sincerely think it's going to make people like him start speaking up more publicly hoping -they- get punched, too.

And I guess that's why I just can't get on board with this. Maybe I'm wrong, and it's worth it, and I'm the one seeing this from the twisted perspective. But I'm worried that we're enabling them, not suppressing them.
 

shingi70

Banned
Eh, still strongly disagree, with both this and Poodle's post yesterday after thinking on it, but not because I think the dude didn't deserve to be punched. Frankly, I agree with the parts about suppressing their movement.

You know how sometimes a friend is about to get into a fight with a real jerk? And if they throw a punch they might go to jail? It's like that. Maybe the punch is worth the jail, but it's not out of concern for the other guy I say I'm not really down with that. It's just wanting my friend to not wind up in jail.

Ever since this whole punch thing happened, all I've seen it do is divide people who should be on the same team. Pro-punch and anti-punch people seem to be at each other's throats much of the time, and that's really sad. I don't mean to sound like a concern troll or anything, but it's just -

I'd love it if punching Spencer made him think twice about speaking publicly again, but I don't think it will. I think he'll speak up again specifically hoping he DOES get punched again, because of how much attention it gets him. I think he loved getting punched, and I sincerely think it's going to make people like him start speaking up more publicly hoping -they- get punched, too.

And I guess that's why I just can't get on board with this. Maybe I'm wrong, and it's worth it, and I'm the one seeing this from the twisted perspective. But I'm worried that we're enabling them, not suppressing them.


I understand where you come from but it's pretty much a no win situation. It's not like the facists haven't tried to turn peaceful.protests and congressman boycotting the inauguration into something bigger.
 
I understand where you come from but it's pretty much a no win situation. It's not like the facists haven't tried to turn peaceful.protests and congressman boycotting the inauguration into something bigger.


Sure, and I get that. It's an ugly situation with no easy answer.


I guess all I'm trying to say is it'd be real nice if half the people on my facebook feed reposting that guy getting punched actually fucking voted when I know for a fact literally none of them did.

If punching this dude was part of a well-rounded 'fuck Nazis' strategy, I'd be completely on board. But so far, most of the people I personally know who are a fan of it are using it as a substitute for actually doing their jobs as citizens and voting.

It's frustrating.
 

GAMEPROFF

Banned
About to read the last Snyder/Cappulo Trade. The new Villain is amazing, but I dont see the point of introducing Robobat that much and having him only around for 10 issues.
 
I just assume that writers don't like her. She should've been the New 52 "trendy" Batgirl IMO.

Maybe, I dunno. Bryan Q. Miller is the only person who can make her work.

How so? I don't think that at all.

My only real exposure to her was War Games, her Batgirl run, and this latest Tec run, with only a few scattered issues inbetween all of those. I was kind of willing to let War Games slide because nobody looked good after that mess, but this latest Tec run is just...ugh. I understand she's distraught after Tim's death being put on ice, but turning on the team and bluffing to blow everyone's cover because "this isn't the world I wanted!!"? Please. Empathizing with the Victim Syndicate is just as shortsighted as their motive. Yeah it sucks that some people might get caught in the crossfire when Batman fights criminals, but if it wasn't for him, Gotham would be a smoking crater where a city used to be.
 
Maybe, I dunno. Bryan Q. Miller is the only person who can make her work.



My only real exposure to her was War Games, her Batgirl run, and this latest Tec run, with only a few scattered issues inbetween all of those. I was kind of willing to let War Games slide because nobody looked good after that mess, but this latest Tec run is just...ugh. I understand she's distraught after Tim's death being put on ice, but turning on the team and bluffing to blow everyone's cover because "this isn't the world I wanted!!"? Please. Empathizing with the Victim Syndicate is just as shortsighted as their motive. Yeah it sucks that some people might get caught in the crossfire when Batman fights criminals, but if it wasn't for him, Gotham would be a smoking crater where a city used to be.

Yeah. It's especially ridiculous in the wake of Snyder's run.
 

pa22word

Member
So hey I've been trying to read manifest destiny for a while now but am just not feeling it on the first issue. Haven't been able to complete it at all despite it seeming like it could eventually become a really cool book. Worth sticking with it?

Also, while I'm on a more negative bend...checked out the first issue of the new dresd series and thought it was mostly okay. It didn't really pull me into the book like year one did with the previous dredd comic idw put out, and I don't like the art and coloring anywhere near as much as the awesome work that I felt was done on the previous book. I'll wait on a sale for the rest of it, but can't escape still feeling salty that the last comic got canned like it did :/
 

Brian Fellows

Pete Carroll Owns Me
My backlog is completely gone so I started the road to War of Kings this morning.


So hey I've been trying to read manifest destiny for a while now but am just not feeling it on the first issue. Haven't been able to complete it at all despite it seeming like it could eventually become a really cool book. Worth sticking with it?

Probably not if you can't even get through a single issue.
 
So hey I've been trying to read manifest destiny for a while now but am just not feeling it on the first issue. Haven't been able to complete it at all despite it seeming like it could eventually become a really cool book. Worth sticking with it?

Also, while I'm on a more negative bend...checked out the first issue of the new dresd series and thought it was mostly okay. It didn't really pull me into the book like year one did with the previous dredd comic idw put out, and I don't like the art and coloring anywhere near as much as the awesome work that I felt was done on the previous book. I'll wait on a sale for the rest of it, but can't escape still feeling salty that the last comic got canned like it did :/

Manifest Destiny gets better but if you're not feeling it by the end of the first arc you should bail
 
Maybe, I dunno. Bryan Q. Miller is the only person who can make her work.



My only real exposure to her was War Games, her Batgirl run, and this latest Tec run, with only a few scattered issues inbetween all of those. I was kind of willing to let War Games slide because nobody looked good after that mess, but this latest Tec run is just...ugh. I understand she's distraught after Tim's death being put on ice, but turning on the team and bluffing to blow everyone's cover because "this isn't the world I wanted!!"? Please. Empathizing with the Victim Syndicate is just as shortsighted as their motive. Yeah it sucks that some people might get caught in the crossfire when Batman fights criminals, but if it wasn't for him, Gotham would be a smoking crater where a city used to be.
Yeah it was a bit over the top, but at the same time I look at it like this: she's seen the damage this can cause firsthand more than anyone else (she's a nursing assistant, right?); she's the daughter of a supervillain, so she already has a chip on her shoulder; she's close to Tim in a way that few have been so naturally she'd take it harder than any of them; she doesn't have the sheer emotional compatmentalization of her fellow teammates; on top of that, the First Victim comes to her personally and plays the heavy sympathy card in the wake of everything. Oh, and she's talking to a fake Tim, which can't ever be a good thing.

I have a pretty easy time believing that she'd snap. Then again, I don't have nearly as much Steph exposure as you do
 
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