COMICS |OT| - November is SPANKSGIVING! 30 Days of Appreciating Funnybooks!

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yo b can i call dibs on making the December Comics OT?

I have something in the works already, sorry. :(

It will be much better than this one, and well. . .

I don't want to spoil it.

How about a sick collabo? Also, try as you might, I don't see you topping this:

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2 days away and I'm excited/scared/desperate for All New X-Men. This will be monumental, comics-GAF. This first issue will make or break the X-Men for the next year.
 
What would be a good jumping on point for Savage Dragon?

I've wanted to pick up some of the recent issues but have no idea where to start.
 
What would be a good jumping on point for Savage Dragon?

I've wanted to pick up some of the recent issues but have no idea where to start.

180+ issues in. . . Hmmm. . .

Erik is supposed to be releasing Savage Dragon Ultimate Collection vol.1 in January, but Dragon collections in the past have been spotty and I'm not certain if he'll manage to collect everything up until current. It would be nice.

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A clean jumping on point is after the events of issue 75 which goes into This Savage World story arc in 76 and ran for about 25 issues IIRC.

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You may be better served getting the digital editions off of Comixology and just starting at the beginning.

He tries to keep the book fresh for new readers every so often, but there is a lot of history since it's one character, one creator, and 20 years of madness. :D
 
What is Savage Dragons deal? Like what makes the book one of your favorites TTOB?

im definetely interested in the latter.

Mystery > Cop > Hero > Father > Hero > Husband, just the constant cycle of "change" in the book.

Takes place in real time.

Dragon isn't above making bad choices, and not intentionally; but he may believe he's doing the right thing and it all goes wrong from there.

Above all else I'm about consistency in my comics. I love comics that have one creator / creative team for an extended period. I love consistency and knowing I'll get the same good fun with each issue. That's part of the reason I enjoy Japanese comics when they're done well.

There have been rough spots. When Erik took over as president of Image, he brought in a lot of talent and new books to Image; but Dragon fell behind schedule. He started playing with his art style, which wasn't a bad thing; but some months were worse than others. Some of his more recent stories feel rushed compared to the early days, but it's been forever since I read them, so I could be wrong.

Now we're on the second generation of Dragon. His son Malcolm is now old enough to fight along side him along with his adopted daughter Angel.

I'm hoping Erik can flesh out Malcolm and Angel more, but recent storylines hint at that moving to the back burner; which I regrettably understand why. Comic fans don't care for change, so Malcolm taking over could have cost him some readers (dopes). I just recently learned that apparently Dragon fans were butthurt over the Savage World storyline as well.

Crazy talk! That's when the book was at it's most fun, but Image era fans who grew up reading it may not be well versed in the Kirby comics of DC so the appeal of it is lost on them.

It's just something so different from what I'm used to. It doesn't help that Marvel and DC keep resetting characters and universes. Savage Dragon is the unfulfilled potential of the superhero marriage gimmick for instance. He's had children, and now those children are old enough to stand in for him when he's absent.

Meanwhile Joe Q. is undoing marriages because he can't tell the sorts of stories he wants to with Spiderman?

He moron! How about he sex up his hot model wife and we see what happens? And not in an alternate universe, or a What If title.

Having one title and one continuity goes a long way.
 
Above all else I'm about consistency in my comics. I love comics that have one creator / creative team for an extended period. I love consistency and knowing I'll get the same good fun with each issue. That's part of the reason I enjoy Japanese comics when they're done well.

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Having one title and one continuity goes a long way.


This is what I like most about creator owned books. They are free to take risks, and evolve their characters/story-lines. You get that with some of the longer Marvel and DC runs, but all of that story progress is always under the threat of being reset when someone else with a different vision takes over.
 
This is what I like most about creator owned books. They are free to take risks, and evolve their characters/story-lines. You get that with some of the longer Marvel and DC runs, but all of that story progress is always under the threat of being reset when someone else with a different vision takes over.

Yeah.

It's unfair to say Marvel / DC comics don't change. The problem I have is a lot of these changes don't feel organic. Things just happen because of plot convenience, or in the case of Damian Wayne; because Morrison has some clout and DC will allow him to delve into the past and play with characters they'd rather leave behind.

The character continuities and plot ideas seeded back in the day shouldn't be swept under the rug, or reset, until a creative eccentric comes along and tries to make sense of it all.

A lot of the comics my step brothers had from the late 60's and 70's that I grew up reading had a lot of plain ridiculous by today's standards stuff in them, but it was so much fun. The whole sons of Batman and Superman hijinks that I'd read about in World's Finest. The confusion of what became multiple Batmen, multiverses, and Huntress being the daughter of Batman and Catwoman in another world.

When I was a kid reading this stuff, I wasn't aware of how these things got there; but I still enjoyed them and a bit of the magic was removed when later on I learned about multiverses and alternate realities.

Now there's a mandate for continuity and for things to make sense in a linear fashion; but stuff like Hulk having a son and that son growing to full adulthood within a few years is just lame. Yes, writing kid Hulk stories may present a challenge; but that's your job as a writer.

Or Wolverine being the ultimate Baby Daddy of the Marvel Universe. There's no way Claremont Wolvie would have not picked up on his own scent at some point.

I dunno.

As always, enjoy what you enjoy until you don't find pleasure in it anymore. For me it's easy since the guys working on the Marvel/DC titles have very little vested interest in them, and Marvel/DC are more often than not willing to replace an artist or writer in the interest of getting the book out on time, but without the old method of having a house style. Which is why there's discontent from fans going from Caselli to Ramos for instance. :\
 
This is what I like most about creator owned books. They are free to take risks, and evolve their characters/story-lines. You get that with some of the longer Marvel and DC runs, but all of that story progress is always under the threat of being reset when someone else with a different vision takes over.

yeah, i agree 100% - i only enjoy self contained arcs. this left me reading mostly creator owned stuff but i've slowly started appreciating the arcs at marvel/dc more. you have to be real picky about em, though. i think immortal iron fist is one of the rare times multiple creators finish one story well.
 
yeah, i agree 100% - i only enjoy self contained arcs. this left me reading mostly creator owned stuff but i've slowly started appreciating the arcs at marvel/dc more. i think immortal iron fist is one of the rare times two creators finish one story well.
I was gonna post the same thought about IIF. Really great story that was consistent throughout. Is the stuff Fraction/Brubaker/Aja worth reading? I've never been much of a Foreman fan.
 
I was gonna post the same thought about IIF. Really great story that was consistent throughout. Is the stuff Fraction/Brubaker/Aja worth reading? I've never been much of a Foreman fan.

you mean "without" fraction/brubaker/aja, ie issues 17-27? i really liked the arc and the way it wrapped up the Iron Fist story. i'd totally read it if i were you.
 
New flippy floppies this week:
DC COMICS

SEP120155 ACTION COMICS #14 $3.99
SEP120201 ANIMAL MAN #14 (ROT) $2.99
SEP120184 BATWING #14 $2.99
JUL128188 BEFORE WATCHMEN MOLOCH #1 $3.99
SEP120250 DC NATION #2 $4.99
SEP120174 DETECTIVE COMICS #14 $3.99
SEP120208 DIAL H #6 $2.99
SEP120151 EARTH 2 #6 $2.99
SEP120259 FAIREST #9 (MR) $2.99
SEP120214 GI COMBAT #6 $3.99
SEP120148 GREEN ARROW #14 $2.99
SEP120188 GREEN LANTERN #14 (RISE) $2.99
SEP120230 LEGENDS OF THE DARK KNIGHT #2 $3.99
SEP120251 SCOOBY DOO WHERE ARE YOU #27 $2.99
SEP120229 SMALLVILLE SEASON 11 #7 $3.99
SEP120216 STORMWATCH #14 $2.99
SEP120202 SWAMP THING #14 (ROT) $2.99
SEP120266 SWEET TOOTH #39 (MR) $2.99
SEP120153 WORLDS FINEST #6 $2.99


MARVEL COMICS

SEP120669 AGE OF APOCALYPSE #9 $2.99
SEP120609 AVENGERS #33 $3.99
SEP120615 AVENGERS ACADEMY #39 $2.99
SEP120619 AVENGING SPIDER-MAN #14 $3.99
AUG120577 AVX CONSEQUENCES #5 $3.99
SEP120635 DAREDEVIL END OF DAYS #2 $3.99
SEP120598 DEADPOOL #1 NOW $2.99
SEP120638 DEFENDERS #12 $3.99
SEP120550 IRON MAN #1 NOW $3.99
SEP120645 MARVELS IRON MAN 2 ADAPTATION #1 $2.99
AUG120586 NEW AVENGERS #32 AXFO $3.99
SEP120652 ROAD TO OZ #3 $3.99
SEP120623 SCARLET SPIDER #11 $2.99
SEP120647 SPACEKNIGHTS #2 $3.99
SEP120663 UNCANNY X-FORCE #33 $3.99
SEP120667 X-FACTOR #246 $2.99
SEP120666 X-MEN #38 $3.99
Bolded my grabs.

I totally thought X-Men ended with #37 a couple weeks ago... It seemed like an ending anyways. Glad to get another issue before the series takes a shit.
 
you mean "without" fraction/brubaker/aja, ie issues 17-27? i really liked the arc and the way it wrapped up the Iron Fist story. i'd totally read it if i were you.
haha yeah, that's what I meant. I'll give it a shot, would like to see how the story wraps up.
 
New flippy floppies this week:

Bolded my grabs.

I totally thought X-Men ended with #37 a couple weeks ago... It seemed like an ending anyways. Glad to get another issue before the series takes a shit.

Is that Age of Apocalypse series that spun out of X-Force actually good? the 10th anniversary series a few years back sort of soured me on future trips to that universe, but I liked the story arc in UXF.

Also, what issue is Remender ending his Uncanny X-Force run with? 35?
 
Is the fifth trade of Immortal Iron Fist out of print? I got the first four from my LCS but they don't have the fifth and neither does Aamazon besides sellers on it.
 
Is that Age of Apocalypse series that spun out of X-Force actually good? the 10th anniversary series a few years back sort of soured me on future trips to that universe, but I liked the story arc in UXF.

Also, what issue is Remender ending his Uncanny X-Force run with? 35?

Uhm, well disclaimer is that this is coming from a guy that hasn't read the full OG AOA storyline yet, so I don't have much familiarity with the universe outside the UXF arc but yes, the new series is excellent. Consistently so. I really like the main group of human (and ex-mutant) freedom fighters they have assembled on the team and it's full of awesome twists. Lotta good art from guys I was unfamiliar with prior to this too.
 
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Try as he might, Land couldn't ruin Gillen's X-Men, so I'm still willing to give his Iron Man a shot.
 
This week:

Action Comics #14
Manhattan Projects #7
Deadpool #1

Taking a chance on Deadpool, have never read a book of his before but I'm super interested in a Posehn written book and Moore's art looks pretty dope from the previews.
 
This week:

Action Comics #14
Manhattan Projects #7
Deadpool #1

Taking a chance on Deadpool, have never read a book of his before but I'm super interested in a Posehn written book and Moore's art looks pretty dope from the previews.

Glad to know I'm not the only one taking that risk. If all goes well we'll be dying of laughter by noon.
 
Taking a chance on Deadpool, have never read a book of his before but I'm super interested in a Posehn written book and Moore's art looks pretty dope from the previews.
Shit, I didn't know Moore was drawing that. I guess I'll add that one to my stack too. I typically find Deadpool comics insufferable but I have a friend who will be thrilled that I'm checking one out instead of just listening to all his dumb stories about the shit that goes on in them.
Has he said who is going to be the supporting cast? I find Stark and Pepper to be kinda boring, honestly.
I know literally nothing about the goings on of Iron Man or the book but KG = insta-buy.
 
Watching Peter Jackson's King Kong and thinking he would make a great Kazar movie for Marvel.

Just tone down the suspension of disbelief puny human tossing.

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New Crusaders Rise Of The Heroes #3
Freelancers #1 (Cover B Felipe Smith)
Hypernaturals #5
Four Horsemen Of The Apocalypse Volume 3 End Of Days SC (Of 3)
Guarding The Globe #3 - maybe
Manhattan Projects #7
Shadowman #1
 

OK finished up Dan Slott's She Hulk today, final thoughts:

-the story didn't really "wrap up" too well, lots of random weird loose ends but who the hell cares because it was an absolute blast to read. it's more about being funny and charming and poking fun at comics than being an "epic read" with a serious arc anyway. i think part of the joke is that it's not a normal comic book arc.

-the art was fun, bright and consistent throughout. the covers were top notch... decided i need a white sleeveless tee with some sultry she hulk cover on it for Coachella.

8.5/10
 
(testing out new avatar, deciding if I want to stick with it or not just yet...)

Will be checking out Deadpool #1 this week. I really love the Darrow regular cover so no need for a variant, though Skottie's is awesome too.

Really anxious for the reboot of Fantastic Four next week. Been a while since I've read those characters consistently.
 
Anybody got a link to some of Andrea Sorrentino's Green Arrow art from Lemire's upcoming stuff? I coulda swore I saw someone post some on Twitter earlier but don't see it. I just finally got caught up on I Vampire and I don't see how he's gonna be able to do a regular-ass superhero comic with his style.
 
Looks like it almost going full CW show Arrow.

Edit: Link to article

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Wow, sogood. Damn it, I don't want to read a god damned Green Arrow comic!!!
 
Takes place in real time.
Now we're on the second generation of Dragon. His son Malcolm is now old enough to fight along side him along with his adopted daughter Angel.
I never realized that about Savage Dragon, and got me wondering how many comic series are in real time. It's probably much more noticeable when it involves decades and not just a few years.
The only other comic I can think of that was long term real time was the For Better Or For Worse comic strip.
 
I never realized that about Savage Dragon, and got me wondering how many comic series are in real time. It's probably much more noticeable when it involves decades and not just a few years.
The only other comic I can think of that was long term real time was the For Better Or For Worse comic strip.

I'm pretty sure Y: The Last Man was real time.
 
I never realized that about Savage Dragon, and got me wondering how many comic series are in real time. It's probably much more noticeable when it involves decades and not just a few years.
The only other comic I can think of that was long term real time was the For Better Or For Worse comic strip.

Hellblazer. John Constantine has aged in real time since his original debut. Not counting his recent re-appearance in the New 52, of course. This is strictly DC Mature Readers / Vertigo Constantine.
 
I did myself a favor and went ahead and bought the Complete Calvin and Hobbes. An article I read made me realize that I absolutely adore that comic and need to read it all over again.

Bill Watterson is the best. Sorry, Schultz/Herriman/Seger/Liefeld.
 
I did myself a favor and went ahead and bought the Complete Calvin and Hobbes. An article I read made me realize that I absolutely adore that comic and need to read it all over again.

Bill Watterson is the best. Sorry, Schultz/Herriman/Seger/Liefeld.

Keep speaking that truth bro.
 
I never realized that about Savage Dragon, and got me wondering how many comic series are in real time. It's probably much more noticeable when it involves decades and not just a few years.
The only other comic I can think of that was long term real time was the For Better Or For Worse comic strip.

Funky Winkerbean is another comic strip that takes place in real time IIRC.
 
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