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COMICS! |OT| October 2014. Witches, wytches, and things that go GROOT in the night.
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Brilliant.
slightconfuse
Banned
GOD DAMN: Aaron and Garney knocked it out of the park with Men of Wrath. this is going to be good
pock3tmonster
Banned
Yep, eBay is a good venue for this. You can ship out media mail without having to go to the post office.
BUT
You should post in here a list of what you have to offer in case someone is interested
I'll post a complete list later, but here's some of what I'm selling to start:
Green Lantern: Secret Origin
Green Lantern: Rebirth
Green Lantern: No Fear
Green Lantern: Revenge of the Green Lanterns
Green Lantern: Wanted: Hal Jordan
Green Lantern: The Sinestro Corps War, Volume 1
Green Lantern: The Sinestro Corps War, Volume 2
Green Lantern: Tales of the Sinestro Corps
Green Lantern: Rage of the Red Lanterns
Green Lantern: Agent Orange
pock3tmonster
Banned
The next issue, #35, is his final issue and the conclusion to his epic run. I hope DC collects it in oversized hardcover volumes, or an omnibus. I already own the standard hardcover trades, but Azzarello's run deserves a luxurious collection.
Spike Spiegel
Member
WW is double shipping this month; #34 was delayed two months, and #35 is the big finale. This month's issue of Secret Origins will also feature WW's New52 origin as told by Azzarello/Chiang, so it's sort of triple shipping.
pock3tmonster
Banned
Azzarello and Chiang's Wonder Woman origin story needs to be collected in their final Wonder Woman trade.
Yep, eBay is a good venue for this. You can ship out media mail without having to go to the post office.
BUT
You should post in here a list of what you have to offer in case someone is interested
This, plus probably cross-post in the B/S/T thread. IMO it's better to deal with people on GAF rather than complete strangers you have no info on whatsoever, plus eBay doesn't get a cut this way. I'd imagine there are certain cases that wouldn't hold true and obviously a bigger venue may be needed if stuff doesn't move of course, though.
slightconfuse
Banned
Guardians 3000 was pretty rad. loved the Ramos style art. Great cast of charactrs. refreshing from bendis trash
NotTheGuyYouKill
Member
Freeze, if Gotham Academy sucks, I'm coming for you.
Question: Does Grayson have a license to kill? Why is he a superspy now? This is contingent on me picking up the trade.
Question: Does Grayson have a license to kill? Why is he a superspy now? This is contingent on me picking up the trade.
pock3tmonster
Banned
The new writer, Meredith Finch, doesn't have much to her name. I'm concerned; I don't have high hopes in her unproven ability. However, she is exactly that, unproven and could turn out something just as strong as Azzarello. She's taking a different approach to Wonder Woman as far as I know. There'll be less of a focus on the Greek Gods and more involvement in the greater DC universe based on the interviews given so far.
David Finch is on art duties, so stylistically, it's going to be far removed from Chiang.
Filthy Slug
Crowd screaming like hounds at the heat of the chase/ All the colors of the rainbow flood my face
Really glad they seemingly got rid of the whole awesome Green Arrow family/supporting class that has been built up in the past dozen+ issues.
I guess Diggle is still there. That's something.
I guess Diggle is still there. That's something.
pock3tmonster
Banned
Was there a proper explanation? Or are they just gone...?
slightconfuse
Banned
Winter solider was greay but man if some of rudys layouts werent hard to folow
Hm....historically, I think WW is at her best when the comic has atleast one good foot in the mythology, but I'm on board with seeing how she interacts with the DC universe at large. As long as it isn't like that awful first arc of Justice League.
Speaking of, I feel like reading a decent team book from the new 52. Anything anyone want to recommend?
Freezasaurus
Member
A WW omnibus would be amazeballs. I only bought the first hardcover, so I'd love to have this collected in one book.
Shhhh. Hush now. Gotham Academy is perfect. Rest easy knowing that if you don't enjoy it, the problem is with you, and not the book.
This, I feel, is the problem. The distance from the main DCU and a focus on Wonder Woman's origins in Greek mythology are precisely what make the book so wonderful and interesting. Pushing her back into the main DCU is going to make me drop the book. If people want to read about Wonder Woman and her interactions with the main DCU, they already have Justice League, Superman / Wonder Woman. Now Finch is going to write her like the majority of other DC writers, and Finch is going to draw her like the majority of other DC artists. Bravo, DC. Good ideas are a rarity for you, aren't they?
Filthy Slug
Crowd screaming like hounds at the heat of the chase/ All the colors of the rainbow flood my face
"Emiko's off training. Naomi's been off grid for three months and Fyff took another job."
Seriously.
SpiderJerusalem
Banned
ok Gotham Academy is the best comic I've read all month
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Finally read everything I think, tier list by Savage Critic standards(Excellent!, Very Good!, Good!, Okay!, Eh!, Awful!, Crap!)
Excellent!
Miracleman #11 - And now we have finally reached Book 3, the third act of Alan Moore's original deconstruction of the superhero comic. Now, 30 years later when everybody and their mom have deconstructed superhero book until it became the default mode in some schools of thought, the idea of it might not seem so impressive. And while the story is decisively Good-to-Very Good in the first 10 issues, the first few are from an anthology series and have really heavy early-80s Alan Moore prose that isn't that great tbh(THE TIGER EYES!!!), and the middle ones, when the prose dies down a bit, have some frankly not good artwork by Chuck Austen which is a big downgrade from Alan Davis and Gary Leach. Rick Veich came on a couple issues ago and it was good, but now. NOW we have reached the Miracleman of legend. These final few issues by Moore and Totleben are some of the best superhero comics ever, period. This is post-Watchmen/Saga of Swamp Thing Alan Moore and Totleben, working at a level that's incredibly rare in any era. Would be book of the month alongside Copra and Stray Bullets if I voted for that kind of thing.
Very Good!
The Fade Out #2 - Phillips/Breitweiser
Silver Surfer #6 - Why is this so good when ASM is bad
Uber #18
Good!
Thor #1 - Not a lot of new Thor in this one, but good first issue anyway. Had to get everybody up to speed with the Hammer/Asgardia situation, properly places the more exciting underwater scenes as bookends to the exposition. The lost of Ribic's fantasy magazine cover grandeur did not go unnoticed, but the art team of Dauterman/Wilson acquit themselves very handily. Asgardians standing around on the moon is about as interesting as thats ever gonna look, and the required action is delivered with an apolmb of flash that never forgets the storytelling(the long horizontal panel of Thor slashing left to right, cape and magic flowing is a good read, as are the angled panels for sudden jolts of momentum or intrusion into the world).
Uncanny Avengers #25 - And thus ends an overall Very Good! run of dumb fun superhero comics. Here's to hoping AXIS doesn't suck and Acuna can stick around for Astonishing Avengers or whatever they end up calling the sequel.
Captain America #25 - This one was different from Remender's other 25 issue Marvel series, in that it started off Very Good! then went down to OK! suddenly and has bounced around from Eh! to Good! ever since. Looking at it as a whole, including the pretty darn decent spy adventure miniseries The Bitter March, this ended up being a Good! longform Captain America story. One I think is gonna hold up pretty well when you read it as one thing, and I like Falcon-Cap already, especially when Stuart Immonen is drawing him. I'm also sucker for Hydra, dastardly neo-Nazi James Bond supervillians and faceless colored-coded henchmen, all that shit. AND now I can start picking up Al Ewing's Captain America and the Mighty Avengers cuz Luke Ross is there with a decent colorist! Thumbs up everyone
Grayson #3 - Can't get enough Dick
Okay!
Gotham Academy #1 - Perfectly fine pilot type thing, if that's your thing
Bucky Barnes #1 - I like what you're trying to do Marco Rudy but...no. Kot is better at the spy stuff at the beginning then he is with the buddy banter stuff in the second half.
Eh!
Men of Wraith #1 - Feels like Ron Garney came up to Jason Aaron and was like, "ey my nigga, I REALLY need a paycheck right now, you know we go back man why you got to shut me out of Thor man" and Jason was like "fine, let me just grab one of my scrap scripts from the ground that never went past 'ape 70s crime movies' phase and let me talk to Alonso. When creators talk, he listens."
Ghost Thief 2: #4 - And so ends a disappointing sequel to one of my favorite comics last year. At least Greg Smallwood showed up.
Awful!
Edge of Spider-Verse #4 - Yeah, this is a pretty hit or miss series. The first two were legit tho
Crap!
God Hates Astronauts #1-2 - Profanity. lolcats. Forced memes. Bestiality. More profanity. Ha Ha. T-R-A-S-H. Grade: F. Minus Five Stars.
Excellent!
Miracleman #11 - And now we have finally reached Book 3, the third act of Alan Moore's original deconstruction of the superhero comic. Now, 30 years later when everybody and their mom have deconstructed superhero book until it became the default mode in some schools of thought, the idea of it might not seem so impressive. And while the story is decisively Good-to-Very Good in the first 10 issues, the first few are from an anthology series and have really heavy early-80s Alan Moore prose that isn't that great tbh(THE TIGER EYES!!!), and the middle ones, when the prose dies down a bit, have some frankly not good artwork by Chuck Austen which is a big downgrade from Alan Davis and Gary Leach. Rick Veich came on a couple issues ago and it was good, but now. NOW we have reached the Miracleman of legend. These final few issues by Moore and Totleben are some of the best superhero comics ever, period. This is post-Watchmen/Saga of Swamp Thing Alan Moore and Totleben, working at a level that's incredibly rare in any era. Would be book of the month alongside Copra and Stray Bullets if I voted for that kind of thing.
Very Good!
The Fade Out #2 - Phillips/Breitweiser
Silver Surfer #6 - Why is this so good when ASM is bad
Uber #18
Good!
Thor #1 - Not a lot of new Thor in this one, but good first issue anyway. Had to get everybody up to speed with the Hammer/Asgardia situation, properly places the more exciting underwater scenes as bookends to the exposition. The lost of Ribic's fantasy magazine cover grandeur did not go unnoticed, but the art team of Dauterman/Wilson acquit themselves very handily. Asgardians standing around on the moon is about as interesting as thats ever gonna look, and the required action is delivered with an apolmb of flash that never forgets the storytelling(the long horizontal panel of Thor slashing left to right, cape and magic flowing is a good read, as are the angled panels for sudden jolts of momentum or intrusion into the world).
Uncanny Avengers #25 - And thus ends an overall Very Good! run of dumb fun superhero comics. Here's to hoping AXIS doesn't suck and Acuna can stick around for Astonishing Avengers or whatever they end up calling the sequel.
Captain America #25 - This one was different from Remender's other 25 issue Marvel series, in that it started off Very Good! then went down to OK! suddenly and has bounced around from Eh! to Good! ever since. Looking at it as a whole, including the pretty darn decent spy adventure miniseries The Bitter March, this ended up being a Good! longform Captain America story. One I think is gonna hold up pretty well when you read it as one thing, and I like Falcon-Cap already, especially when Stuart Immonen is drawing him. I'm also sucker for Hydra, dastardly neo-Nazi James Bond supervillians and faceless colored-coded henchmen, all that shit. AND now I can start picking up Al Ewing's Captain America and the Mighty Avengers cuz Luke Ross is there with a decent colorist! Thumbs up everyone
Grayson #3 - Can't get enough Dick
Okay!
Gotham Academy #1 - Perfectly fine pilot type thing, if that's your thing
Bucky Barnes #1 - I like what you're trying to do Marco Rudy but...no. Kot is better at the spy stuff at the beginning then he is with the buddy banter stuff in the second half.
Eh!
Men of Wraith #1 - Feels like Ron Garney came up to Jason Aaron and was like, "ey my nigga, I REALLY need a paycheck right now, you know we go back man why you got to shut me out of Thor man" and Jason was like "fine, let me just grab one of my scrap scripts from the ground that never went past 'ape 70s crime movies' phase and let me talk to Alonso. When creators talk, he listens."
Ghost Thief 2: #4 - And so ends a disappointing sequel to one of my favorite comics last year. At least Greg Smallwood showed up.
Awful!
Edge of Spider-Verse #4 - Yeah, this is a pretty hit or miss series. The first two were legit tho
Crap!
God Hates Astronauts #1-2 - Profanity. lolcats. Forced memes. Bestiality. More profanity. Ha Ha. T-R-A-S-H. Grade: F. Minus Five Stars.
Tyrant Rave
Banned
I haven't read my books yet (Persona's too fun...) but you guys have me real excited for Gotham Academy, Grayson, and Guardians 3000. Been looking forward to Guardians for months so I'm glad to hear that it's good.
BTW, what's coming out/scheduled in terms of Omnibuses/Complete Collections? Amazon can get kind of weird when trying to search for that and doesn't seem the best. I know that Uncanny Avengers is getting one, and I believe Hawkguy has one scheduled too? I just really love sitting down with an Omnibus, and being able to just have a whole run or something in one book. (I'm sorry though, guys, I lack the reading chair for the official omnibus position, so I just make due with a bed...)
Freezasaurus
Member
Shhhh. Hush now. Gotham Academy is perfect. Rest easy knowing that if you don't enjoy it, the problem is with you, and not the book.
I just finished reading it. I enjoyed it, but I feel like I'm coming into the middle of a run instead of starting a new one. Is there a reason why Olive seems to hate batman? Is she a past supporting character I don't know about? Maybe it was just setting up some foreshadowing, but it felt like I was supposed to know this stuff already.
Yeah, this is whats worrying me as well. It can still be good, but I think her greek mythological roots should still be a strong element in her stories. But it's possible. I mean, we have plenty of stories where Superman's Kryptonian roots aren't a huge factor, right? We'll see, I guess.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Oh, and Masterplasty #1 came out as a one-shot by Image. Didn't pick it up shit was like $6 and I already read it on the internet, but its EXCELLENT!, so maybe consider it.
edit: oh oh and I also read Death of Wolverine #whatever I can't even remember the number it was that forgettable, which what the word EH! was made for
edit: oh oh and I also read Death of Wolverine #whatever I can't even remember the number it was that forgettable, which what the word EH! was made for
pock3tmonster
Banned
Wow. Based on that alone, I think it's fair to assume we're not going to see those characters again. Or at least not for some time.
(Reposting from the old thread)
I probably won't be reading Gotham Academy right now(if only because I've gotten my fill of highschool stories in the last while), but I hope it leads to a surge of alternative's to superhero comics for DC. Stuff like Chase, Hitman, and Gotham Central, all unique books that take place in a grand, interesting DCU.
I probably won't be reading Gotham Academy right now(if only because I've gotten my fill of highschool stories in the last while), but I hope it leads to a surge of alternative's to superhero comics for DC. Stuff like Chase, Hitman, and Gotham Central, all unique books that take place in a grand, interesting DCU.
SpiderJerusalem
Banned
oh shit I forgot to pick up Persona
I was thinking it seems like something to do with her mom
Freezasaurus
Member
It's a first issue, they're not going to give you all of the answers at the beginning. From what I gather, she finds costumed weirdos running around the city to be a nuisance. Though
Bruce seems to know who she is, based on the fact that he said her name when she interrupted his speech
pock3tmonster
Banned
I definitely agree that Wonder Woman works best when her writers embrace her mythological origins, while navigating more modern concepts. I'm happy to give it an arc to prove itself, but we'll see.
As for team books, Justice League 3000, Dark, 'Original' or United are great team books, depending on what genre appeals. I'm loving Aquaman and the Others. It captures that adventurous feeling that is missing from many comic books. Otherwise, if those don't sound interesting, I'd suggest waiting for the new Secret Six #1 in December. Gail Simone is at her best when writing a team and the original Secret Six was one of DC's best books. If Gail can make lightning strike twice, then you want to be reading that book when it happens.
slightconfuse
Banned
decided to pickup witchblade #178 on a whim. wanted to get back into the top cow stuff after falllig off. Fun little issue deatling the after math of thedarkness finale. Really love the top cow universe
Lara Braga is an artsit to watch out for. another winner for top cow
Lara Braga is an artsit to watch out for. another winner for top cow
Tyrant Rave
Banned
Was this posted? Gotham Academy art by Babs Tarr:
pock3tmonster
Banned
Please don't disappoint DC. I still haven't forgiven them for not publishing a Secret Six omnibus, but Wonder Woman as a member of their holy trinity, has more of a chance of an omnibus collection.
I'm with you. Azzarello's epic run was not only independent of the major DCU and the events unfolding in every other book, but it refreshingly embraced Wonder Woman as a whole. Azzarello embraced her mythological origins and the entire pantheon of Greek Gods that are her namesake in stark contrast to Superman's alien origins and Batman's technological advances against crime. It's a shame that even with Justice League, Superman / Wonder Woman and even Sensational Comics, we're going to see another mainstream take on Wonder Woman that ties her down to the greater DCU. I'm willing to give Meredith Finch the benefit of the doubt, I've said as much, purely on the grounds that she is completely unproven and I'm interested to see what the strengths of her writing ability are. However, the interviews and promotion of the new creative team as the mainstream answer to Wonder Woman is disheartening.
http://media.dcentertainment.com/si...9.29 GOTHAC_1_4-5_5429706bdd82f2.15980603.jpg
Okay, what the fuck is with the lettering on this Gotham Academy page? If you actually read the page as the artist intended (which isn't hard, cuz there are some very helpful lines!!) the order make no goddamn sense.
These post-JHWIII "page as a unit" artists work about as well for me as post-Sienkiwicz "whoa, we can paint comics now?" ones do, which is to say I'd rather be reading the guy they're aping. Rudy is clearly trying to move away from that now that he's colouring his own stuff but it's borderline unreadable.
Okay, what the fuck is with the lettering on this Gotham Academy page? If you actually read the page as the artist intended (which isn't hard, cuz there are some very helpful lines!!) the order make no goddamn sense.
These post-JHWIII "page as a unit" artists work about as well for me as post-Sienkiwicz "whoa, we can paint comics now?" ones do, which is to say I'd rather be reading the guy they're aping. Rudy is clearly trying to move away from that now that he's colouring his own stuff but it's borderline unreadable.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Friend of mine has been reading Witchblade all year. He swears its only because of Braga. I couldn't shake the feeling she was modelling some of the characters after herself, but that was just a quick humorous glance.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
I tried reading it left to right, and thought, "wait...is this right?"
then I did up to down and thought, "ok but the lines are guiding my eyes THIS way and yet"
then I said fuck it try harder comic
KoruptData
Member
@ales_kot: And 'Batman: Zero Year' by @Ssnyder1835 @GregCapullo @fcoo feels like the most fun Batman comic I've seen come out since Frank Miller's DK2.
Ales knows what's up. With the vast Batman catalog that I have read over the last 2 years, Zero Year is my favorite.
Also read the DC weeklies. Both were entertaining. Nothing amazing but a fun weekly dose of a story.
Justice League was fun! The book has just been great since FE ended.
Ales knows what's up. With the vast Batman catalog that I have read over the last 2 years, Zero Year is my favorite.
Also read the DC weeklies. Both were entertaining. Nothing amazing but a fun weekly dose of a story.
Justice League was fun! The book has just been great since FE ended.
My favorite from yesterday list.
The Fade out #2
Grayson #3
Detective Comics #4
Thor
Uncanny Avengers #25
Gotham Academy is just okay, hope they will start running with the premise in #2.. the art and character seem already promising, but jeez why DC thinking all young female must have boyfriend problem.
The Fade out #2
Grayson #3
Detective Comics #4
Thor
Uncanny Avengers #25
Gotham Academy is just okay, hope they will start running with the premise in #2.. the art and character seem already promising, but jeez why DC thinking all young female must have boyfriend problem.
BuddyJoeHooker
Member
This gives me an idea, I can just update this list every week or so when PREVIEWSworld updates the new releases.
Notable Collected Releases
pock3tmonster
Banned
What are your thoughts on Jessica Cruz? I'm hoping she's long-term and not going to be sidelined like Simon Baz was, after his introduction and purpose was served. Has he been mentioned in relation to her? I keep thinking back to the GL panel that suggested he was going to train her.
KoruptData
Member
I like her. Especially this issue. I like all themes of overcoming fear and anxiety. I don't know what to think of Simon Baz. I wish to see his character explored more also.
Filthy Slug
Crowd screaming like hounds at the heat of the chase/ All the colors of the rainbow flood my face
At first I thought y'all fellas were crazy (which you are for shittin' on Marco Rudy) when I looked at the page, because I initially took the two columns, start from the top-left to bottom-left and then top-right to bottom-right but then I started noticing the dotted lines and nothing made sense anymore. That's a hilarious mess of a page, but it ain't like you lose anything by reading it however you feel like.
Filthy Slug
Crowd screaming like hounds at the heat of the chase/ All the colors of the rainbow flood my face
Yo, good call. FBP is fucking good. Cicero's hair is my character design of the year.
pock3tmonster
Banned
Great to hear. I've been excited for her arrival since that one panel with Baz, but I was apprehensive about how she'd be handled. I'm looking forward to reading this arc in its completion. Is she still
marked as a vehicle of destruction? Or has she been able to reign in the evil designs of Volthoom?
Freezasaurus
Member
So I've been out of the Green Lantern loop pretty much since the New 52 started. I was mostly just GL'd out at that point, after Geoff Johns six-million issue run before the reboot. How are GL and GLC these days? Worth checking out again?
pock3tmonster
Banned
I'd avoid the core Green Lantern book. The art and writing are awful, definitely not what'd you expect from the "flagship title". Check out GLC, Van Jensen is doing great character work, but otherwise the best of the line is in Justin Jordan's New Guardians and Charles Soule's Red Lanterns. I've heard Sinestro is a great read, similar in tone to Cullen's Magneto solo.
The Green Lantern books are just beginning a three month long event, Godhead. I'm sure there'll be lasting changes to the status quo as a result. Might be a good time to jump aboard, otherwise, wait until the event comes to an end.
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