Cracked: 5 Reasons Wrestling Fans Are Giving Up On The WWE

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He is talking about the main product. NXT is fantastic but doesn't have Vince/Dunn destroying the diva division.

He says he can only name 2 divas, and that they are twins.

Doesnt take a lot of thought to realize he doesnt watch NXT
 
As someone who tried to start watching after a decade break:

1. Nearly every wrestler's music sounds exactly the same. What in the world happened here? Terrible. Generic metal and unintelligible lyrics. Just awful.

2. The mid and lower-card has absolutely zero to do. On Nitro and Attitude-era RAW, I remember the cruiserweights had some amazing feuds. Great tag team stuff. Big multi-wrestler feuds over midcard titles. Today? Crap.

3. Gimmicks need to return. We're past the time of providing "real" looks into the wrestlers' lives. UFC does that well, and guess what? It's real. Basically every guy now is "Generic first name/last name" and that's incredibly boring.

Everyone is in on the secret. We all know it's fake. Stop pretending it's not. Bring back the colorful characters.

The only highlight today is New Day, the only guys who do the best job of acting as hilarious characters.
 
just add DBZ effects and the ratings will skyrocket

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Too bad this will only apply to the TV viewers lol.
 
Womans wrestling has never really matter in wrestling in general. There have boom periods like 90s Japan womans wrestling or nxt but for most part it always been bad.
 
People love to hate on Cena in this day and age and he brought the hate on himself but he is still the only person on the active roster that is able to go out to that ring and basically work a crowd like no one else on the roster.
 
They really do have legit female wrestlers now, Bayley and Sasha in particular have the potential to be far bigger stars than Trish and Lita and Sable ever were.

Instead the jokers running the main roster have made Sasha into another irrelevant nobody and they WILL screw up Bayley when she comes up.

the wrestlers are legit. Their characters and storylines are pure trash though. The Divas division comes off like it's written by an old man who watched Mean Girls on a flight once. It sucks. And the talent can't save it or make it interesting, which sucks for them because they are being wasted. Vince and his crew still sees them as eye candy and little else.
 
The thing that is so frustrating about WWE today is that they have gotten the science of making on screen talent work hard and well down to a science. The roster is full of men and women that work their asses off to do well and in ring they are great performers. However, the creative machine is short-circuited and is now making a irratating buzzing noise on the floor.

The show is longer then ever but they have nothing for these people to do. Vince has stated that he hates "Wrestling for the sake of wrestling" but the show is now that more than ever, with people showing up to fight for no reason then the fact that they are now fighting. The commentators don't explain who wants what or why and it only confueses the audience even more. I still watch wrestling every week with NXT and catch RAW when I can but when wrestlers don't want to go to the main roster, which is supposed to a be a big career move, because they worry about being given shit to work with you know you have problems.
 
He says he can only name 2 divas, and that they are twins.

Doesnt take a lot of thought to realize he doesnt watch NXT

Actually he said he could name 4. He mentioned Charlotte in the article as well.

This is pretty spot on. I mean you could nit-pick some points but he isn't wrong at all with his overall messages.
 
I stopped watching in 2002 like a month before Cena first showed up.

Glad I did alto people tell me I missed some awesomeness from 2002-2007 might catch up one day.
 
I think they just really need to be willing to take more risks with character development and stories. Stupid but successful shit like The New Day come about when you let wrestlers gently tweak their gimmicks and measure audience response.

If they let more of that happen, I think the overall product would improve drastically, even if every idea doesn't fly.
 
I stopped watching in 2002 like a month before Cena first showed up.

Glad I did alto people tell me I missed some awesomeness from 2002-2007 might catch up one day.

About all you seriously missed out on is one month of heel HBK in the summer of 2005, a Jericho/Christian feud, Trish Stratus/Mickie feud, both ECW One Night Stand PPVs, and Edge cashing in the money in the bank at New Years Revolution 2006. Most of that time was garbage. 2007 was the worst year. The year of Cena.
 
The thing that is so frustrating about WWE today is that they have gotten the science of making on screen talent work hard and well down to a science. The roster is full of men and women that work their asses off to do well and in ring they are great performers. However, the creative machine is short-circuited and is now making a irratating buzzing noise on the floor.

The show is longer then ever but they have nothing for these people to do. Vince has stated that he hates "Wrestling for the sake of wrestling" but the show is now that more than ever, with people showing up to fight for no reason then the fact that they are now fighting. The commentators don't explain who wants what or why and it only confueses the audience even more. I still watch wrestling every week with NXT and catch RAW when I can but when wrestlers don't want to go to the main roster, which is supposed to a be a big career move, because they worry about being given shit to work with you know you have problems.

of course they explain things.

you mean you aren't invested in Michael Cole telling us how Tyler Breeze called someone a loser on twitter and now they're having a 4 month long rivalry of 50/50 booking?
 
Commentary is a big thing too imo. Sure they can't get away with the shit they used to say, but the commentary in WWE is fucking dull nowadays.

I still subscribe to the network but it's only for old stuff and NXT.
 
of course they explain things.

you mean you aren't invented in Michael Cole telling us how Tyler Breeze called someone a loser on twitter and now they're having a 4 month long rivalry of 50/50 booking?

Only if he takes the chance to mention that the WWE has over 10 billion followers on their livejournal and that some child actor from the early 90's thinks their Raw is hip while JBL talks about Big Match John and Byron Saxton ... is.
 
WWE is far from perfect, but there's a reason all of the competition can't keep up. It's a tough business.

The internet has absolutely ruined wrestling forever just like the internet ruins most things. Remember when every surprise wasn't already spoiled, along with discussions of why said surprise sucks before it even happens?

Remember when everyone didn't discuss why every wrestler sucks unless their name is Cesaro or Ziggler?

There's a lot to be said about the timing differences. Back in the attitude era, I was newer to wrestling, and there has never been anything like it. Lots of the drama and action was "newer" to wrestling too. It didn't hurt to have all of these mega stars at once either. Now you've seen it all. Everything is discussed until it's boring.

NXT is a good product, but it's another case of internet fans thinking they know what the masses want. NXT is good as-is. It will not be the replacement of WWE.
 
Kinda crazy looking back how popular wrestling was 15 years ago compared to now.

Wish it would get big and popular again.
 
WWE is far from perfect, but there's a reason all of the competition can't keep up. It's a tough business.

The internet has absolutely ruined wrestling forever just like the internet ruins most things. Remember when every surprise wasn't already spoiled, along with discussions of why said surprise sucks before it even happens?

Remember when everyone didn't discuss why every wrestler sucks unless their name is Cesaro or Ziggler?

There's a lot to be said about the timing differences. Back in the attitude era, I was newer to wrestling, and there has never been anything like it. Lots of the drama and action was "newer" to wrestling too. It didn't hurt to have all of these mega stars at once either. Now you've seen it all. Everything is discussed until it's boring.

NXT is a good product, but it's another case of internet fans thinking they know what the masses want. NXT is good as-is. It will not be the replacement of WWE.
Iwc hasn't ruin anything, a bad product has. When it is good the Iwc barley complains. Also every era had there darling that didn't get there due.
 
Im pretty shocked one of the reasons wasnt that RAW is AS LONG AS A PPV!

WWE is trying to be as successful as possible and doesnt seem to have a roadmap for ding so because they are not taking any risks. Theyre throwing everything and anything at the wall and hope something sticks, when it does stick, they milk it dry instead of cultivating it properly.

I mean, why else do we have a 3 hour RAW, a 2 hour Smackdown, house shows, a developing minor league system, a semi dedicated network, random tv shows, a movie company and a monthly 3 hour PPV among others. Some of these are incredibly important while some dont matter. The company is too afraid to say "fuck all tv deals, lets be completely network exclusive and run all the programming through the network" because theyre completely afraid of losing any money in the short term.

Their biggest potential money grab is the network. If they had 3 million subscribers they can say fuck you to other tv networks and have a comprehensive product lineup. Instead, they produce sub par shows for their primary audience on RAW because theyre stretching themselves waaay too thin across all these other ventures. Vince is incredibly capable, but its not that hes running out of touch (I dont think he is) its that hes a hands own owner, and when your company has 20x more branches than 15 years ago, you run out of mindshare, so the primary product gets worse, way worse.

If youtre looking for an immediate fix, they need to start investing more time into the womens division. They have a 3 hour show thats mostly filler and the ratings are low, so now its the perfect time to make the women division matter. Build multiple storylines, not just about the title, or about bitches bein cray and jealous, build stories like you have done with the male talent and give them more ten minute matches so that the audience can be given the time to get into them. Sasha, Charlotte, Becky, Paige and even Nikki are really good storytellers and great wrestlers, but creative and product need to give them more time and the right environment to get over with the fanbase.
 
WWE is far from perfect, but there's a reason all of the competition can't keep up. It's a tough business.

The internet has absolutely ruined wrestling forever just like the internet ruins most things. Remember when every surprise wasn't already spoiled, along with discussions of why said surprise sucks before it even happens?

Remember when everyone didn't discuss why every wrestler sucks unless their name is Cesaro or Ziggler?

There's a lot to be said about the timing differences. Back in the attitude era, I was newer to wrestling, and there has never been anything like it. Lots of the drama and action was "newer" to wrestling too. It didn't hurt to have all of these mega stars at once either. Now you've seen it all. Everything is discussed until it's boring.

NXT is a good product, but it's another case of internet fans thinking they know what the masses want. NXT is good as-is. It will not be the replacement of WWE.

Did the internet become a thing 5 years ago? Because that was when over a million more people were watching Raw compared to today. It's not like Google wasn't used then to check the results of shows. And if the Internet ruins everything then why do the "Internet fans" (which is such a dumb statement in 2016 when everyone is on the Internet) apparently make excuses for NXT?

There is a shit load of reasons why of reasons why people are tuning the product out today compared to 5-10 years ago and you went with the laziest "blame the smarks on the internet" excuse.
 
WWE is far from perfect, but there's a reason all of the competition can't keep up. It's a tough business.

The internet has absolutely ruined wrestling forever just like the internet ruins most things. Remember when every surprise wasn't already spoiled, along with discussions of why said surprise sucks before it even happens?

Remember when everyone didn't discuss why every wrestler sucks unless their name is Cesaro or Ziggler?

There's a lot to be said about the timing differences. Back in the attitude era, I was newer to wrestling, and there has never been anything like it. Lots of the drama and action was "newer" to wrestling too. It didn't hurt to have all of these mega stars at once either. Now you've seen it all. Everything is discussed until it's boring.

NXT is a good product, but it's another case of internet fans thinking they know what the masses want. NXT is good as-is. It will not be the replacement of WWE.

Dude Ziggler sucks, what are you talking about.
 
Man, I remember when missing an episode of Raw was unthinkable. That was one hell of a ride.

I hated WCW with the passion of a thousand suns (I was a diehard partisan back then), and now all I want is something else to actually push Vince to compete again.
 
I am convinced Byron is an android.
Byron Saxton isn't an android but that's ultimately what they WANT him to be.
They want him to be another soulless Michael Cole... so that's what they're grooming him to be.
Just like they want Roman Reigns to be the next John Cena.

The problem is that John Cena and Michael Cole are quite simply the defacto examples of homogenized WWE-brand shilling machines and, frankly, nobody else can do what they do (i.e. be Vince McMahon's puppets) better than those two can. They're right to earmark Saxton for the job, though... because if there's someone more vanilla and with less personality than Byron, I can't think of 'em.

Incidentally, I'm hearing a lot of "Internet fans" bullshit from at least three people in this thread. No other product has "Internet fans". They're just fans. Stop it with that nonsense. It's 2016.
 
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