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Daniel Day-Lewis is Spielberg's Lincoln

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Kraftwerk

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Jesus, who cares? He is going out of his way to bring us content and info and you guys start insulting him and questioning his integrity. Don't post or enter his threads while you are at it.

As I stated above, tons of big name websites link to his website, and I have seen other forums, blogs, and websites cite him as a source and link to him directly. So yeah, he already gets good traffic.

EviLore seems to be fine with it, so stop whining.
 
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ThisWreckage

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Kraftwerk said:
Jesus, who cares? He is going out of his way to bring us content and info and you guys start insulting him and questioning his integrity. Don't post or enter his threads while you are at it.

As I stated above, tons of big name websites link to his website, and I have seen other forums, blogs, and websites cite him as a source and link to him directly. So yeah, he already gets good traffic.

EviLore seems to be fine with it, so stop whining.
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If multiple people are complaining about it then I think it's worth discussing. You're not going to tell me to stop just because you happen to agree with his method of link whoring.
 
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Expendable.

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Clevinger said:
Your plugging doesn't really bother me like it used to, I guess I've just gotten used to it, but this doesn't seem true when you go out of your way to link your site even in every image you post.
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Those are automatic when I switch from HTML to bb code. They bring zero traffic and revenue to my site. Just used for reliable image hosting.
 
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Kraftwerk

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ThisWreckage said:
If multiple people are complaining about it then I think it's worth discussing. You're not going to tell me to stop just because you happen to agree with his method of link whoring.
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Firstly, please word it better, as it is insulting to all our collective minds, and Expendable personally; by that I mean calling his efforts to bring news as "whoring".

Secondly, no need to shit the thread up. PM / Email EviLore if you have complaints. It is very frustrating when people just derail a thread completely by starting nonsensical arguments.
 
Angry Fork

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PhoenixDark said:
Spielberg will whitewash everything; he doesn't take risks as a film maker, especially now of days. It'll be the same mythological view of Lincoln everyone is familiar with, and want to hear. I doubt we'll hear anything about him wanting to send former slaves back to Africa, a position he held through the Civil War, although there is debate on whether he changed his mind shortly before his death.
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This is why I'm not really hyped for this. Spielberg is a great director but I don't believe he's going to tear apart the high regard Lincoln has amongst the mainstream.
 
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Mgoblue201

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I don't think that there is anything to worry about. Most of the questions that confronted Lincoln were high-minded intellectual problems of the Constitution - his actions were hardly the worst things that a president has ever done - and there are actually admirable things about the way in which Lincoln navigated those problems. I can't think of anything - at least in Team of Rivals - that would really tarnish his image.
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Hey! this movie was/is being shot in my city!

didn't know it had this sick of a cast though...just knew about DDL.

Also, I wonder if this movie will shed light on some of the truth about Lincoln, and the fact he wasn't really that great of a dude.
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Not that great of a dude? He had an almost superhuman ability for patience, equanimity, and understanding. He almost never held a grudge. He inspired intense loyalty and acted with the intent to keep the union together. He had his foibles, but who doesn't?
 
Angry Fork

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It seemed like Lincoln did the slave freeing as more of a war tactic rather than because he legitimately cared. Maybe he did I don't know I haven't read enough on it but that's my main contention with the high regard he constantly gets.
 
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NotTheGuyYouKill

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Angry Fork said:
It seemed like Lincoln did the slave freeing as more of a war tactic rather than because he legitimately cared. Maybe he did I don't know I haven't read enough on it but that's my main contention with the high regard he constantly gets.
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I thought it was to strike a blow against the Southern land-owning vampires.
 
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Mgoblue201

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Angry Fork said:
It seemed like Lincoln did the slave freeing as more of a war tactic rather than because he legitimately cared. Maybe he did I don't know I haven't read enough on it but that's my main contention with the high regard he constantly gets.
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A few days ago I made a post about some of Lincoln's views. While war strategy was certainly one factor, I don't think it's fair to say that he didn't care. The question of slavery weighed heavily on his mind. It should be noted that, after his meeting with Lincoln at the White House, Frederick Douglass wrote, "He treated me as a man; he did not let me feel for a moment that there was any difference in the color of our skins! The President is a most remarkable man. I am satisfied now that he is doing all that circumstances will permit him to do." Of course, that was much later in Lincoln's life, after he had abandoned his ideas to permit blacks to emigrate to Africa, and I'm not certain whether Lincoln actually deep down considered Douglass an intellectual equal. He might have. That's why I'd still like to read up on the subject.
 
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SCULLIBUNDO

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Spielberg talking about the film's release date.

"It has a lot of revelance to our time, especially with our divided House. It is about a divided House in 1865. But I'm not willing to allow the film to be part of the gristmill of the 2012 election cycle," he explained to EW in the latest issue. "So I'm going to make the movie, which of course would be ready for release before the election, but it won't come out until December of '12."

And while he doesn't point any specifics, he does say that both the Republicans and Democrats could put their teeth in the movie, and he's not willing to have it chewed up by politicians. "I don't mind starting a conversation, but a film like 'Lincoln' could be used by both sides, and the only casualty will be the film," Spielberg said. His feelings are understandable, and speaking from a purely pragmatic view, not rushing to meet an earlier date will certainly give him more breathing room to finish the film which is already coming in on a sharp deadline.
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http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplayl...d-being-grist-for-the-2012-political-election
 
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Discotheque

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I'm happy with the replacement. Neeson is good and all but Day Lewis just eclipses him big time. Especially in the past couple years.
 
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mre

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Discotheque said:
I'm happy with the replacement. Neeson is good and all but Day Lewis just eclipses him big time. Especially in the past couple years.
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Man, I think DDL is the definitive actor of his generation. I've loved almost everything he's ever done.
 
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SCULLIBUNDO

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Walter Goggins talking about working on Lincoln:

What’s it like to work on Lincoln with someone like Daniel Day Lewis, who lives in the character that he’s playing?


GOGGINS: There are so many actors that approach the work that way, from Forest Whitaker to Ed Harris to [Robert] Duvall to Chris Cooper. They’re everywhere. On a lot of people’s lists, Daniel is probably the best actor of his generation, and two subsequent generations. He’s that specific. What it does for me is it reminds me of how important this is. It’s nice to have that daily, almost minute-by-minute, reminder. This isn’t just a story about Lincoln. We’re not just doing another story about Lincoln. This is Steven Spielberg doing a story about one of the most flawed men, who is also one of the greatest men, and certainly one of the greatest presidents we’ve ever had, and feeling the weight that he was under and what was going on in this country. It was the schism that forever changed this country. So, when you have an actor that approaches the work that way, you show up to work every day with your fucking A-game.

Who are you playing in the film?

GOGGINS: I play a congressman whose real name is Wells Hutchins, and he was a Democrat out of Ohio. The movie is about a lot of different things. It’s about Lincoln, and it’s about his relationship with his cabinet, but it’s also a story about the passage of the 13th Amendment. In order to pass the 13th Amendment, Lincoln needed a certain amount of Democratic congressmen to vote for it, or it wouldn’t have been bipartisan, and he needed the 13th Amendment to pass. So, I play a pivotal role in that part of the story.
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http://collider.com/walton-goggins-justified-season-3-lincoln-g-i-joe-2-interview/140297/
 
bengraven

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Wow, that pic of Lincoln. I hadn't seen that.

DDL is an insanely handsome man with that weathered, chiseled look to his face. Makes a pudgy pale redhead like myself look like bird shit on the sole of his black boots.



On current topic: that's interesting that they're focusing on the passage of the 13th amendment for the film. I hope to god they're keeping history as close as possible so we won't have a few months worth of fueled debates about slavery and bipartisanism and "liberal/conservative bias" in in the film.
 
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Loxley

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I was pretty disappointed when Liam Neeson dropped out of the movie...but fuck these images of Day-Lewis have brought my hype back way up. Dude looks perfect.

I'm actually curious of they'll use some Peter Jackson-style forced perspective camera tricks to make Day-Lewis look taller than he is.
 
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SomeDude

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Lebron said:
Okie Dokie
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The corpses of 600,000 people is "okie dokie?"


What if the north would of let the south secede and used trade, diplomacy and morality to end slavery? In other words, what if the north would of followed the path of non violence like dr martin luther king jr?
 
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SomeDude said:
The corpses of 600,000 people is "okie dokie?"


What if the north would of let the south secede and used trade, diplomacy and morality to end slavery? In other words, what if the north would of followed the path of non violence like dr martin luther king jr?
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This isn’t just a story about Lincoln. We’re not just doing another story about Lincoln. This is Steven Spielberg doing a story about one of the most flawed men, who is also one of the greatest men, and certainly one of the greatest presidents we’ve ever had, and feeling the weight that he was under and what was going on in this country.
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Seems like Speilberg will humanize him like you're apparently wanting.

Also, MLK came after these guys so they couldn't follow in his path. ;D
 
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SomeDude said:
The corpses of 600,000 people is "okie dokie?"


What if the north would of let the south secede and used trade, diplomacy and morality to end slavery? In other words, what if the north would of followed the path of non violence like dr martin luther king jr?
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So tell me how diplomacy and morality would of helped after the south seceded when it didn't work before they did?

Here is a better question, what if the south decided not to secede? What if they did the right thing and decided to end the enslavement of the majority of the population in the south? Than those 600,000 people wouldn't have had to die.
 
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SomeDude

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CrazyDude said:
So tell me how diplomacy and morality would of helped after the south seceded when it didn't work before they did?

Here is a better question, what if the south decided not to secede? What if they did the right thing and decided to end the enslavement of the majority of the population in the south? Than those 600,000 people wouldn't have had to die.
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Does that make the north better that war was waged and all those people died? Does that make us any better now that were bombing people with predator drones that are "bad"?


PS: I'm not defending the confederate cause. THe civil war itself was over as long expected the clash between free states and slave states. Slavery is a horrible institution. But that doesn't give the north the right to use war and kill to end it.
 
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SomeDude

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IamMattFox said:
I thought your last interview excerpt was what bumped this thread. Didn't realize his one liner was the post that did it.

Awesome.
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Wow, at all the americans supporting war and killing. No wonder we've been nothing but a violent country since our foundings. Hell, since colonization.
 
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SCULLIBUNDO

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You are a bad troll. Stop ruining the thread and go make your own where you can seek attention. This is a thread about the upcoming film.
 
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SCULLIBUNDO

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SomeDude said:
No I'm not. And the film is about "Lincoln" Who I personally feel is a horrible man.
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Yes, but you're replying to people who aren't talking about what you're talking about. It's pretty clear you just want to voice the ramblings bubbling to the top of your brain. You seriously seem to be talking to yourself, which you can do in another thread.
 
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SomeDude

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Scullibundo said:
Yes, but you're replying to people who aren't talking about what you're talking about. It's pretty clear you just want to voice the ramblings bubbling to the top of your brain. You seriously seem to be talking to yourself, which you can do in another thread.
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What? I feel that war was not justified to end slavery. I don't know why it's crazy to call out a guy that led to 600,000 people being killed.

Either way, the film is about abraham lincoln, and i was voicing my opinion of him. Why is this a sin?
 
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Speevy

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SomeDude said:
What? I feel that war was not justified to end slavery. I don't know why it's crazy to call out a guy that led to 600,000 people being killed.
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He sounds like a pretty famous dude, even when you describe him.

So why not make a movie about him? People don't even rant on Hitler when they make Nazi movies.

Historical figures are imperfect, hell often disgusting. We know that.
 
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