You have to obtain them all (including Vendrick's) in the same playthrough and then go to the room where you fought Vendrick, use the ashen mist heart near his armor and and talk to him in the memory. You'll have to do this every time you move to a NG+
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Dark Souls II |OT++| Bearer of...Seek...Seek...Lest
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Ah, thanks for the explanation. I'll have to try on my next playthrough. I've already cashed in the souls that I believe allow you to inflict more damage on Vendrick. As it stands my attacks don't phase him.
Doubtful then you've got a very strong boss in his weakest state and a pretty much stronger version with less weakness that would be a right slog with your suggestion.
BrokenIcarus
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I seem to be seeing undiscovered locations and bonfires as ??? Now when i fast travel, since when did that happen?
After you entered drangelic castle.
BrokenIcarus
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Is that NG+ only?
Mr. Poolman
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Fume is a great fight.
Actually I beat him with surgical precision rolls.
If you find it too hard, ask for help, there tons of SunBros for that particular area, since is such a cool boss.
Orochinagis
Member
Huh, lets watch how the wizard got killed and screw everyone.
Second phase have less invincible frames and unfair recovery times of him the trick is getting your distance. Pretty easy if you are a light armor player, horrible for heavy because they dont have time to reach him and run away
No it always does it.
DarkHeartedKill
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You can still roll though. It would be a whole lot more challenging, but still doable. It would be a lot more fun than fooking Ancient, that's for sure.
Orochinagis
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"The more giant souls you have the more damage he can do" lol
DarkHeartedKill
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Heh. He starts off doing 0x extra physical damage, and does up to 32x extra damage. Not that it matters since he can still OHK you D:
Both are pretty much one or two hit kills for the player sure you can do them but they're dull. You'd just end up circle strafing with a greatshield and a strike weapon exploiting the moveset in the case of hypothetical vendrick.
Cross posting from the DS1 OT since I thought it was a general Dark Souls OT
Has anyone here played Dark Souls 1 & 2?
Dark Souls 1. FUCK THE GARGOYLES.
Dark Souls 2.... no amount of cussing can compare how much I hate the fucking goddamn piece of shit, shitstainbag motherfucking asscuntbag dribbledonkeyflogs thongwearingnipplemidget assholeinvadinggreydouchebags slimyblackelvenpricks tosserwankerflankerdanker bitchy idiotic mother fucking gargoyles.
Oh that works.
What I'm trying to say is why? WHY.
Maneater was already the most painful thing in existence for me. I never beat him in NG+ (despite being 1 hit away) but one day I do want to come back and beat him.
The gargoyles in DS1 where just no fun.
But DS2....WHY. Also why are so many bosses in DS2 just a ton of enemies? The most entertaining one that was also difficult was the DragonRider at Heilde's Tower. Sure I only died 3 times but it was so fucking beautiful and awesome (even if it was just a copy/paste from the infamous duo of DS1).
I vented. And now I shall turn to cheesing methods.
Has anyone here played Dark Souls 1 & 2?
Dark Souls 1. FUCK THE GARGOYLES.
Dark Souls 2.... no amount of cussing can compare how much I hate the fucking goddamn piece of shit, shitstainbag motherfucking asscuntbag dribbledonkeyflogs thongwearingnipplemidget assholeinvadinggreydouchebags slimyblackelvenpricks tosserwankerflankerdanker bitchy idiotic mother fucking gargoyles.
Oh that works.
What I'm trying to say is why? WHY.
Maneater was already the most painful thing in existence for me. I never beat him in NG+ (despite being 1 hit away) but one day I do want to come back and beat him.
The gargoyles in DS1 where just no fun.
But DS2....WHY. Also why are so many bosses in DS2 just a ton of enemies? The most entertaining one that was also difficult was the DragonRider at Heilde's Tower. Sure I only died 3 times but it was so fucking beautiful and awesome (even if it was just a copy/paste from the infamous duo of DS1).
I vented. And now I shall turn to cheesing methods.
Orochinagis
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I dont get it that too but I guess is for the ilussion to make the game hard without relying of good IA and mechanics
DarkHeartedKill
Member
Well, it's not too bad considering...
technically you only fight two at a time. They share one health pool, so another spawns when you deal damage to the total health pool equal to one gargoyles health. For example, if you take one gargoyle down to 25% health and another to 75% health, a third will spawn even though two are still alive. Focus one always and bring him down before dealing damage to the other one.
Guess it's just easier for me to do last second rolls to avoid his attacks. It's also much easier to roll at an angle to get behind him for a quick attack or too.
Red Liquorice
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The bosses with minions were rarely done well in DS2 I agree. I think with the Gargoyles in DS2 though, it was fanservice - so they were expecting that many players will know the deal, or think they do, then go "Oh shit!" as more come to life! So even if you die the first time, you go back knowing what to expect and hopefully more prepared. I never expect to kill a boss first time, if I do great - but you don't know what gimmick they'll throw out to knock you off your game. After a death or three on the Gargoyles if you're still being chased by 4 of them scrambling to heal in between beatdowns, then you're just not playing smart enough!
I guess some points in the series like that are "dragon bridge moments" where your first run through is a little unfair unless you are being super-duper observant and cautious. But that's ok, learning from your deaths is what Souls is about. As long as you pick yourself up and think about a strategy - could be as simple as using a weapon buff, changing a ring or armour piece etc, then every death is a worthwhile learning experience.
Orthogonal
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174 pages. I guess |OT+++| will happen.
It sure will, especially if rumours of another DLC come to pass. Glad to have you back from your timeout.
There's no palette swap just a double team of the first boss for the optional area challenge boss.
Blue Smelter is the only one i skipped from the three DLC.
So lame i couldn't be bothered to even put the time in to beat it.
wait what? blue smelter is skippable?
I've tried him about a hundred times now and still get my shit rocked every time.
It's the optional boss of the second DLC, yeah.
Iva Demilcol
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I must confess I liked fighting the gargoyles in DSII D:
I agree that fighting several enemies during boss encounters is kinda cheap, but there are few that I think are fun: Ornstein & Smough, the gargoyles, Freja, Elana,
even Phalanx in Demons...
I agree that fighting several enemies during boss encounters is kinda cheap, but there are few that I think are fun: Ornstein & Smough, the gargoyles, Freja, Elana,
Burnt Ivory King
Laurentius
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Damn, was hoping to be able to complete a no-death run on NG++. I really want this to be the character that eventually has "everything" but she was already on NG+. Figured I'd give the no death run a try.
It was all going great until I underestimated the range of Mytha's AOE after she throws her head on the ground. =(
Guess I could try NG+++ No Death and go full cheese.
It was all going great until I underestimated the range of Mytha's AOE after she throws her head on the ground. =(
Guess I could try NG+++ No Death and go full cheese.
If you weren't going full cheese in ++ then it's probably going to be the only way you do it at that difficulty and just havel mage everything.
Laurentius
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Yeah, I think I could have managed it in NG++ if I'd just been more careful with Mytha...but cheese is probably my only way to go in NG+++. Especially since every time I screw up it's just going to get harder and harder, haha.
Why didn't you use Thomas?
Laurentius
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I pretty much never die to Mytha, so I didn't even worry about it.
That's pretty much the story of all my no death runs in the past. (I've tried a lot of NG ones.) I assume that something will be easy, don't concentrate enough, and get killed. Which means even with maximum cheese I may very well fail.
It's not maximum cheese without npc summons, plus it might help alleviate some of your failings.
Laurentius
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Yeah, if I do give it a try on NG+++ than I'll definitely make sure to have some NPC summons.
I know how the souls game work but souls prizes itself on difficult one on one or one on two situations.
The whole combat system isn't really designed around multiple enemies nor is it any funs. I knew what to do with the sentinels but good lord they where so painfully boring, hit, raise shield and wait for the *perfect* moment for them to attack, repeat.
Multiple enemies outside of ornstein and smough just plain suck, don't have the same excitement, aren't fun and are usually very, very cheap or tedious or both.
I *HATE* summoning in my first playthrough of souls and didn't do it in Demons or Dark Souls 1 but after 10 or so tries I had no problems summoning on the ruin sentinels (and I hear there are more) and I'll do the same with gargoyles if I find the summon sign.
And I would have a much better time with the gargoyles if there wasn't such a high chance to be invaded immediately before the boss fight. Not only am I fighting a copy/paste boss from the first game but a near guarantee invader?
The idea itself is really cool but to place those two things together just reeks of cheap. So far the only boss I actually had a great time with was the Dragon Rider and the Pursuer. Everything else was either lol too easy (last giant and sinner where so disappointing) or just plain cheap/boring/tedious (ruin sentinels managed to be all 3!).
Souls series should stick with more intense 1 v 1 fights.
DarkHeartedKill
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Yup. All the DLCs have two main bosses, and one optional. The second technically has 2 optional, depending on what your goal is. If you would like to know, all beating Smelter Demon 2.0 does is
give you Pharros Mask, it kinda resembles Mask of the Farther from DS 1, just with a longer beard and smaller head. It increases fire resistance by 100, but it also reduces your lightning defense by the same amount. Useful for Iron Keep Lava paths though.
Yeah a 2 month ban was a bit too much. I'll update the new OT with DLC info.
If the gargoyles were a handful in 1 I cant imagine how you dealt with S&O. And Ruin Sentinels pretty much gives you a one on one fight at the start. I find playing unlocked can help in multi boss battles. Just lock on as you go in for stabs.
Also to be honest, the Dragonrider is the lamest boss in the game outside of Covetous Demon and Last Giant but the Last Giant is the first boss so I have a hard time being harsh on it. Asylum Demon is pretty much just as easy if you have any experience in Souls, and Phalanx is a lame gimmick (like a lot of Demon's bosses)
Also to be honest, the Dragonrider is the lamest boss in the game outside of Covetous Demon and Last Giant but the Last Giant is the first boss so I have a hard time being harsh on it. Asylum Demon is pretty much just as easy if you have any experience in Souls, and Phalanx is a lame gimmick (like a lot of Demon's bosses)
Cannon Goose
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I found the master of stealth
DarkHeartedKill
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You always find the best PvP opponents. All mine are the same original non-laggy, non-invisible plebs ;~;.I found the master of stealth
I find Dragonriders to be a really good fight if you decide to activate one of the platforms. You can be an insane mofo and activate none if you prefer. It's a good bossfight to encoruge players to not just dart through the area, unfortunately the Vanilla game has no more of it...
Last Giant got needed to oblivion because too many new players kept dying to him. Unfortunate as I with Lost Sinner I'd prefer to fight them prenerf.
I don't know you but hi and welcome back heh.
Orochinagis
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I found the master of stealth
Plost twist, it was the mob all along
DarkHeartedKill
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O wait I just looked at the pic again. Derp. That guy was trained by a stealth master.
Laurentius
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Silver Talismans have given me some of my all time favorite PVP moments.
valentine71
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Guys, are there any YouTube channels and/or any long articles on the DLC lore?
Orochinagis
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Epicnamebro and Vaaty in that order are the ones I remember of.
Just careful with vaaty he seems to divage in the lore.
More like takes the vague, fractuous lore to construct his own stories because he is desperate to try and have everything make sense like Demon's and Dark Souls.
Laurentius
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^- I actually like the lore of Dark Souls 2. It's not Dark Souls 1 quality, but I find there's still a lot of interesting things to think about.
(And I certainly wouldn't say everything in Dark Souls 1 "made sense". And that's purposeful, really, since they make things vague in order to allow a lot of speculation and interpretation.)
ENB hasn't done any lore videos for DS2.
(And I certainly wouldn't say everything in Dark Souls 1 "made sense". And that's purposeful, really, since they make things vague in order to allow a lot of speculation and interpretation.)
ENB hasn't done any lore videos for DS2.
Orochinagis
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Thats the ones I remember for Lore not entirely for DS2