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What SL are you?
LurkerPrime
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Oh my God, this is for real? That is beyond stupid. Is this also related to durability dropping dramatically when attacking a corpse?
I don't mind Soul Memory, but they have to fix durability.
Most of his issues with the game are equally applicable to the earlier games in the series. None of the games are insanely hard, certainly not anywhere near the level they are populary advertised to be. The ai routines and boss fights in all the games largely only take patience to overcome. The other games are even worse when it comes to using kiting and level design to "cheese" the enemies (this isnt really cheesey though, its usually working as intended I'd say). The other games have less differences in NG+ in terms of content so are even less fun to run through again if he has no interest in doing it here. The individual levels here are as big or bigger than they were in earlier games. Using only one or two sets of gear and being reliant on upgrades is also present in the earlier games (and lack of respecs ties you to even smaller subsets of equipment). The nature of the storytelling is largely the same in the other games, only Demon Souls has a more explicit (though equally obtuse) story so if its the nature of the storytelling thats the issue thats still going to be a problem. The online system and the hint system were present in the earlier games, and are a selling point of the series so nothing different there.
So basically none of his issues, which were well laid out, have to do with any supposed "downgrade" but are largely integral to the series itself. Its fine not to like DS2 or to prefer one souls game over the other but this bizarre whitewashing of the earlier games or series flaws and peccadillo's is just tedious.
Orthogonal
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Started ng+ today. Plowed through Last Giant, Pursuer and Dragonrider in like 30-40 mins. I think this is going to go fast.
Funny thing happened. I had done a coop on pursuer to get human and earn a SSSS. Then, I summoned folks to zerg rush the boss. Well, one of them was a red phantom with a white ring and caught me by surprise and ganked me. I guess it serves me right... haha.
Funny thing happened. I had done a coop on pursuer to get human and earn a SSSS. Then, I summoned folks to zerg rush the boss. Well, one of them was a red phantom with a white ring and caught me by surprise and ganked me. I guess it serves me right... haha.
Never once did I think to utilize the white ring like that...
Did you get invaded or did you summon them?
When you put on the white ring, your summon sign becomes white just like a co-op phantom. Your shade is also white in their world.
Orthogonal
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Yeah, I summoned him.
The ultimate troll item. Wow. Can you combine that with an item that aggros enemies to keep up the facade only to reveal your dastardly demeanor and slay them right before a boss?
Edit: I just checked, it doesn't make your summon sign red.
105. Close to 1mill in Soul Memory.
Though I'm struggling on damage despite having 20 in STR/DEX/FTH/INT. :/
Oh where has this been I need this to do some jolly co-operation. Summoned at the boss and back stab them and kill them.
Has more to do with upgrading your weapon than stats early on.
Also, there is really no point in spreading out your stats like that. Choose one or two paths to focus on. For example: STR/FTH.
For example: I beat NG at SL 100, NG+/NG++ at 160.
Orthogonal
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I am not 100% certain, but I think their shade color is slightly off from a normal white phantom. Not enough to be a huge red flag, but different enough that you can pick up on it.
I may just be making it up in my head.
Oh yeaaaah! Ring of Exalted get! Would have gotten both that and Conqueror's, but for three things:
1. Getting cocky
2. Getting headshotted by a crossbow guy in Sinner's Rise
3. Being on the descending elevator at the same time
Has anyone here gotten both of them on the same run?
1. Getting cocky
2. Getting headshotted by a crossbow guy in Sinner's Rise
3. Being on the descending elevator at the same time
Has anyone here gotten both of them on the same run?
I had to have 3 of those on the PvE character oh well that's something to look for then.
MMBosstones86
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oh wow. What a troll item. Hope you are wrong hah.
Isn't it kind of useless if you have two SunBros with you? Hmm, needs a yellow ring.
Edit: Then again, thinking back to that video of the Chameleon + Seed of Giants trolling, and the invader walking right past the incredibly out-of-place giant shade-summoning tombstone in the middle of the room.
MMBosstones86
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protip :
just run. follow the right wall. caution, will eventually open up. if you follow that you'll eventually come to the opening
I think i killed maybe one guy
Spring-Loaded
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Don't rely on your eyes to see them
Trust the power of the souls?
That's easy to say but when you have five of the fuckers swinging at you and you dunno from where and get lost, it's annoying.
Oh thank god, found a way out of there. Worst area in the game.
Long-reaching, wide-swinging weapons are your friends there. Just move really slow through the place, aggroing them one at a time and you'll have a good time.
That was the biggest nope.gif moment for me in Dark Souls II.
My biggest nope (or maybe "Noooo!!" ?) was dying after managing to kill one of them.. And the one I killed first was the one that drops Ring of Blades +2. That sucked something awful.
Rickenslacker
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Yeah, just going down from above where there's a sorceress beside another chest and weak footing.
That fight is easily exploitable for those who don't want to summon.
Let one of the Pursuer bros perform the impale move on you (obviously make sure you have enough HP to survive it, but in any case, it's not a one-hit KO). This will cause you to become Cursed. Afterwards one of the two will despawn, and you're free to kill the remaining one like normal. Then if you choose to, you can rest at the bonfire, and the Pursuer who left initially will be available to fight.
Exact thing happened to me on NG +1. I figured if I could kill one of them while both were bearing down on me, I could have killed both if I hadn't become complacent, so I didn't sweat cheesing them the second time around.
razgriz417
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Turn up the sharpness? Didn't have too much of an issue but you could always hug the walls.
Man, trying to kill the
Ancient Dragon
AOE fire attack
demosthenes
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I think I beat the Iron Keep. I also found Belfry Soul. Is this area purely extra? Will I get
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invaded every single time
demosthenes
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Are you wearing the fire ring+1 you can get and using the pyromany fire protect spell?
ichtyander
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I dunno, I'm kinda ok with that area. I mean yeah, it's cheap, but it's not a bad idea, it's just that the technical implementation is incredibly lazy. It reminds me of Tomb of the Giants from DS1 in terms of hampered visibility and combat. I killed dozens of enemies in the forest but I walked very slowly and looked for the brighter silhouettes of the enemies. Although hugging the walls is pretty much the best strategy if you're not interested in searching through the whole area for items.
Yeah, I did this. Single Pursuer is a pushover by that point, but I couldn't handle two of them at all. That youtube clip with the guy punching the dual Pursuers is insane.
razgriz417
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Yea I was using a fire ring +2, totally forgot about Flash Sweat though, does that reduce your move speed? I'll give that a try tomorrow
demosthenes
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Not to my knowledge, I've been using it a bunch helping people in Iron Keep.
chaobreaker
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Thanks to steam family share, my little brother has also been playing quite a bit of Dark Souls 2. It's his first Souls game and despite being a semi-brogamer casual, he's handling himself really well. He progressed through most of his 10 hours with just a pair of powerstanced falchions. He has taken a lot of my protips at heart and gotten good at dodging, managing his stamina, and not using a shield like a scrub. He also loves the shit out of PvP but is unsportsmanly as fuck.
He just killed Smelter Demon with just Lucatiel. Going to buy him a GFWL Souls key in the next steam sale.
He just killed Smelter Demon with just Lucatiel. Going to buy him a GFWL Souls key in the next steam sale.
Neither are very good, the shield probably being worse as it doesn't have 100% damage reduction.
I hope it gets a Steamworks patch very soon, want to replay the first game.
revolverjgw
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Anybody know which bonfire respawns the two giants in Black Gulch? I'd like to avoid respawning The Rotten, if possible...
Those respawn like any mob, you just don't get another soul from them
Edit: shit double post, I'm sorry :/
Orthogonal
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After the initial surprise of new enemies in things betwix in NG+ I was disappointed in Forrest of Giants up to the witch vendor lady (which granted isn't a lot), everything was the same as NG
You will see a lot of black phantoms, but there aren't any other new unique enemies like those
Falconer's
revolverjgw
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I already cleared them though (I loooove grinding), I want to use an ascetic and hopefully get a giant soul from them again.
Really? That is super disappointing then after they throwing new enemies at you the moment you start NG+ lol
First bonfire respawns them (and yes, they do drop the soul again). Second bonfire respawns Rotten.
Orthogonal
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I perused the wiki, and it looks like there may be one more in
Shrine of Amana
The black phantoms do seem to be fairly varied in armor set and weapons, so I guess you can count that as a little more variety, but there doesn't seem to be any new enemy types like Thing's Betwixt shows.
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