Haven't seen it posted, ZP review
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/116862-Dark-Souls-3-Review
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/116862-Dark-Souls-3-Review
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Dark Souls III |OT2| Welcome to NG+, Unkindled One
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Yep same damage, it's the same i guess.
Yes, DS1 last boss was underwhelming and DS2's last boss was a huge joke.
DS3's last boss isn't the hardest boss in the game, but he's not exactly a push over either. I thought his moveset was pretty cool.
So I have a question that will be answered with a bit of patience, but I don't want this to be in the back of my mind for the next ~3 hours of playtime.
I failed
quest the first time around, because I joined a certain covenant. Now I'm in NG+, I've spoken to her, and I've also spoken to
without doing any covenant stuff.
What should I be expecting? It's awkward, because I'm technically still in the covenant, but surely this character isn't doomed to fail that quest, right? How do you trigger the fail state in NG+?
I still haven't seen
pop up in the Cathedral, so I'm hopeful things will turn out well with S next time I see her. The uncertainty is bothering me, though. 
I failed
Sirris'
Rosaria
What should I be expecting? It's awkward, because I'm technically still in the covenant, but surely this character isn't doomed to fail that quest, right? How do you trigger the fail state in NG+?
I still haven't seen
Leonhard
They always say that. We won't really know until we play it. At least did they mention Short Sword, Twin Sword and Magic being adjusted.
ebullientprism
Member
Yeah. A lot of enemies seem to have ridiculous amount of stamina. Even guys carrying huge weapons will do ridiculously long combos. Plain stupid.
lol
EDIT: Secret area boss spoiler
LOL I saw that happen in a speed run a day or so ago. It was hilarious.
Yep. Even at 40 VIG I had regular enemies in that area eat up like 30-40% of my health in single hits.
previous games' true final bosses were super lame and even easier. this is the best final boss in the series by far. most people enjoyed the bosses before the final bosses of the previous games.
i think this was the most epic and challenging true final boss of the series.
lordfuzzybutt
Member
Well I agree that the moveset is cool and I am not saying that being harder is better.
It's just that as fancy as his moves are, avoiding those attacks are so easy and samey, basically just
rolling right, left.
The
2 Princes
dodge those fucking homing missiles, all the while having to avoid their teleporting attacks.
Well, I guess it's because I was so pumped after the
2 Princes
Still a fantastic experience and can't wait for the DLCs.
Well, count me in then. lol. Now I know not to look expect too much from the final bosses when playing through DS1,2.
DamagedInc
Member
I'm going with a strength build and have just farmed the dark sword, I've got it to plus 3,should I infuse it with heavy or will that ruin it?
I treat that like I treat Demon's Souls'. It doesn't counttrue final boss
I think we had this conversation before lol
But anyone with a big lifebar on bottom. With a name counts.
Pinwheel is the ultimate boss!
I mean it's ok, but the Dark Sword is better as a refined weapon.
generic_username
I switched to an alt account to ditch my embarrassing tag so I could be an embarrassing Naughty Dog fanboy in peace. Ask me anything!
I still do not get how people are finding the last boss terrible. I would consider the following as truly terrible to mediocre bosses
1. Crystal Sage
2. Old Demon King
3. Nameless King
4. Ocieros
5. Deacons of the Deep
6. Aldrich
7. Curse Rotted Greatwood
2. Old Demon King
3. Nameless King
4. Ocieros
5. Deacons of the Deep
6. Aldrich
7. Curse Rotted Greatwood
Except
Gehrman
Gehrman
I don't get how you can find NK terrible.
Best boss in the game and possibly top 5 boss in the whole series.
Q
Queen of Hunting
Unconfirmed Member
im guessing you can find covetous silver ring and estus ring +1 in new game + i went to where you get the covetous silver ring and its still just normal version lol
DamagedInc
Member
Thanks, I'll do that then, I've not really worked out the infusions yet.
Different locations.
Lux R7
Member
Agree. I don't think there are bad bosses in ds3. They are all ok, some are amazing.
I know blue phantoms are broken for a lot of people, but it has worked much much better for me than it did in DK2. Even playing the JPN PS4 version, I got summoned as a blue quite a lot. On PC, I'm currently at 30+ proof of concord kept and only lvl 48. I would have a lot more if I wasn't terrible.
Head of Vengarl
Banned
On my new character I'm doing a luck build with Anri's Straight Sword. I'm quite enjoying it so far. I hope they don't nerf it too hard in the patch tonight (straight swords were mentioned). Getting the sword was quite the task:
. That was a hard fight!
*Edit: And count me in the camp that liked the final boss. It was especially fun co-op because he would usually flatten at least one of the summons.
fighting Anri and Horace the Hushed at the same time was ridiculous. I only won when I ran away up the stairs toward Road of Sacrifices and Horace fell behind and de-aggroed, leaving me in a 1v1 vs Anri. After I (barely) managed to kill her, I went in on Horace but he killed me several times with his bullshit staggering halberd attacks
*Edit: And count me in the camp that liked the final boss. It was especially fun co-op because he would usually flatten at least one of the summons.
My final clock time was around 39 hours, with doing all optional areas. Beginning part was pretty slow for me as I was figuring out how to play, but by mid-to-late game I was steamrolling everything (Pyro). Game feels plenty long enough for me.
Enjoyable game, but I'm struggling to bring myself back to it (for NG+ or for SL farming).
Enjoyable game, but I'm struggling to bring myself back to it (for NG+ or for SL farming).
generic_username
I switched to an alt account to ditch my embarrassing tag so I could be an embarrassing Naughty Dog fanboy in peace. Ask me anything!
Any boss that forces me to keep changing lock ons or play a certain way because of camera problems is not a contender for good boss imo.
Arena is good, design is good, second phase is fun but the first phase ruins it.
KevMan1815
Member
lol
EDIT: Secret area boss spoiler
Oh we're playing Destiny now?
Eh, in visual design they are mostly good, yeah, but the game is literred with easy as hell bosses that don't leave much of a impression.
WTF dude... Why not spoiler tag that?
hydrophilic attack
Member
I, for one, look forward to humiliating more brolice in the near future when invading
MagicWithEarvin
Member
You're literally married to that sword if you're going for that build. That's pretty much the only weapon you can use.
I wouldn't start from scratch building up to that, either in NG+ or late game at SL80+.
Edit: someone else has a suggestion above that will probably work you.
I can't handle this opinion. Really. I can't. How is this possible?
Oh, you didn't play the previous games and beat it easily. That would explain a little bit, but calling it terrible... huh.
You could just kill Anri and get the sword as soon as you meet him/her.
Head of Vengarl
Banned
When you get a boss down to a sliver of HP, get too excited and spam attack, only to get caught in a combo and killed.
Sorry. I didn't think it was a spoiler since it was just a couple of NPCs I was murdering.
Sorry. I didn't think it was a spoiler since it was just a couple of NPCs I was murdering.
Tarkus
Member
Hopefully he pulls a DS1 on you.
I've never played a DLC for these games. So how do you handle the DLC situation? Do you cloud save at the end of the game before you go NG+? And when the DLC arrive you play it from there, is that a possibility? Will the DLC be significantly harder at for example NG+5? Not sure what I want to do.
Sometimes when he isn't in firelink he is
hanging out by a tombstone outside of firelink. You can come back there to get his shield.
leaves forever. You can find him in archpeak as a friendly summon. Collect all the dragon stones there, then talk to Andre. After talking to Andre, you can find him at the abyss watchers bonfire.
Typically, the DLC is harder than the main game, and accessible after a certain point in the game. I'm guessing here it won't be available until after
Dancer
Grand Archives
You'd have to back up saves yourself because you can't in game. I just make a new character for DLC usually
Lux R7
Member
Maybe, but they are fun to fight. Which is important. Also, bosses in general were never the hardest part of souls imho.
iRAWRasaurus
Banned
Dlc will be harder if it's ng+, ng++, etc. what I tend to do is make a new character to replay the game again.
From what I heard, Bloodborne's DLC was significantly harder in NG+ from NG. So be prepared for something like that.
The DLCs are usually accessed mid-game at some point. I doubt Fromsoft will make DS3's DLC missable this time around. It will probably just be a 'go here to get a key to access this door/new area' type of thing.
Bloodborne had a suggested level that was somewhere around 60-70. This game might have a different level range. Hard to say.
I still think the only reason DS3 bosses are "easy" in average is because we've all played the previous games many times. They're quite challenging otherwise.
It was significantly harder than the base game in NG as well.
It was significantly harder than the base game in NG as well.
The dark souls games are hugely replayable, every weapon type/spell type changes the way you play the game immensely, so I always just look at the DLC as an opportunity to start up a new character and play through again.
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