J-Roderton
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Cool. I usually roll all physical at least on my first playthrough, then start rocking the miracles on the next. Never was too great at balancing using both on one character.
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Dark Souls III |OT2| Welcome to NG+, Unkindled One
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J-Roderton
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Not sure if 3 has the same miracles in it as 2 (or if they're even called miracles anymore) but the lightning spears were way fun to use. Healing ones were good, too. Awesome for co-op.
I'm level 93 with a +10. NG+ doesn't matter, you can be summoned to any NG.
Audioboxer
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False
It's farmable.
I had full Darkwraith armor + Sword before even reaching Farron Keep
The one in the jail cell? I'm sure it de-spawned. Cool to know it doesn't.
The_Darkest_Red
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If you guys had to pick one build for a playthrough between Int, Faith, and Pyromancy which would you pick? I want to experience the best of the magic world.
BossDarkseid
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Reached NG++++ (Journey 5).
Somehow it just feels so satisfying still, and my refined Dark Sword still deals lots of damage (it somehow took down
) while being super stamina efficient.
can still go fuck himself though.
Somehow it just feels so satisfying still, and my refined Dark Sword still deals lots of damage (it somehow took down
Aldrich before he could even teleport once
Nameless King
Pyro is pretty powerful from what I read. Sorc seems the next most useful and Faith seems to be disappointing here. Haven't read any glowing comments about their Faith builds. Kinda surprised because it's so OP in DkS2.
Audioboxer
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Pyro has easiest beginning-mid game. It's a safe bet. As it scales with int/faith you'll have access to other magic. Although said magic on the damage front anyway won't be all that good as you need 50~60 int or faith for it to work.
The_Darkest_Red
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Your reaction is why I always stick with melee and consider Bloodborne the best Soulsborne game.
It's just kind of sad when you're constantly finding these tomes that are 100% useless to you.
What platform?
Are enemies damage scaling still stacking upwards?
Megawarrior
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Basically. I'm level 109 on NG and get summoned within 5 seconds everywhere.
It's pretty one sided now. I would call it ultimate hard mode. And even if you take out the phantoms, the host can keep summoning for help. There's no limit.
pyro, it does damage all throughout the game and has some fun spells. the progression is p. decent
sorc is boring af and weak to boot until the very endgame where suddenly it gets okay
offensive miracles are like ds1 tier or worse and you get all the offensive spells super late so yeah that's cool i guess
sorcery life is this except even worse
1. Invade
2. Find host
3. Find host with 3 summons
4. Record
5. Equip +10 Chaos Zweihander
6. Use "Welcome" gesture
7. Destroy host and summons
8. Email clip to Sunlight Blade
9. Profit
MixedBeverage
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chaos
dark
chaos vestiges
Get gang raped by three people that stun lock you.
Sanctuary
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1. Talk to a specific NPC while having 10 INT.
2. Buy Hidden Body once you unlock it (15 INT).
3. Equip Slumbering Dragoncrest Ring when you unlock it.
4. Equip Lingering Dragoncrest Ring when you find it.
5. Equip Aldrich's Sapphire (backstabs pay for the Hidden Body cost).
6. Equip Hornet's Ring and basically kill the host in a single backstab. #5 is in case you have to pick of the hired help first.
You can also alternatively make a simple shield and wear it on your back for passive FP regen while trolling at a distance.
This sounds fantastic.
Clarkus Darkus
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Well to be fair, The invader does have the whole mob of enemies aswell to hide behind.
Your FP gets recovered at the start of each invasion, so no need to try to restore your FP if the idea is to one-shot them.
JayWood2010
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Thanks. Ill check that one out. Is there any other really good strength weapons? Id like to pair something smaller with a ultra great sword. I mean besides the Dark Sword
INT is far and away the best if you're going to try and beat the game with magic. Sorceries are bad against very few enemies and most enemies are weak to them. What's more, you get abilities which essentially act like a weapon replacement if you've got the FP for it.
That said, INT also requires you to build towards it more than any of the others. If you're FTH or Pyro you're going to build a hybrid. INT is the only one that allows you to build a class that will require relatively little weaponry outside your Staff. You will be a glass cannon if you do this on NG - no way around it.
Sanctuary
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Right. Read my edit. You can also cheese them with a Greatbow while hidden and passively regenerating. It lasts 20s without the ring, and ~25s -26s with it. You should gain all of your FP back by the time it ends.
Not really accurate. Sorcery mostly soft caps at 60, while Pryomancy can get pretty good gains up to 40/40 through the Chaos Infusion. There are only a select few enemies in the game that are resistant to fire, and for that you have Dark Fire Orb (although you may as well just use Sorcery anyway since your INT will be high enough for it). Conversely, if you're planning on playing a "Sorcery" build, you would still want to at least use either Greater Chaos Fire Orb or Chaos Bed Vestiges. There's literally no reason not to as they are two of the best boss killers in the game. Pyromancy starts out way stronger than Sorcery too. It's not as efficient, but it casts much faster and does more damage for the same tier of spell. Efficiency only matters if you don't constantly have to back dodge enemies, or run away for a long time to create space, since Miyazaki forgot this isn't Bloodborne 2.
But that's what the seeds are for. I think I've seen the hosts use seeds more than I would've liked when I invaded. And sometimes they used it just to troll cuz it would be 3v1 and they'll use seeds anyway.
Shotgun Kiss
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I'm playing as a pyromancer, and I'm really enjoying it. I can use miracles and sorceries too, but there's no reason to use damage-based ones, as pyromancies are so much stronger. If anything, I've been finding things quite easy, as I can destroy most enemies from a distance, and I've killed a lot of bosses on my first attempt. I don't think any has taken me more than three attempts, and I'm near the end.
That said, when playing as a pyromancer, you have to pretty much forgo STR and DEX completely, as you're levelling both FAI and INT. If you were to go with just miracles/FAI or sorceries/INT, then you could also level STR or DEX also.
Audioboxer
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I still have fun, but I'm mainly PVE and not really part of the hardcore PVP scene that would bitch about anything regardless.
The way I see it is if you're invading, expect to be trolled or abused by any means possible. You're going into someones game forcefully.
If it's a PVP fight club, well, I guess you can have grievances against certain builds, but such is life some only care about winning at all costs rather than fun, experimenting or trying things out. I guess it's human nature to always search "up to date OP PVP build" and copy/paste.
Souls has always been a SP/PVE game first, PVP second.
NG+ and NG++
The_Darkest_Red
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Loving all the magic discussion, thanks bros.
Zombegoast
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The online portion is just broken. Bosses will even be stuck in it's idle animation and won't attack
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Steve.1981
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Cheers, will look into it tonight. This was one of those times when I literally couldn't think of any part of the area that I hadn't explored, but I knew I'd missed something.
Sanctuary
Member
IMO a Pyromancy build is the strongest PvE build until essentially the last few hours of the game, and even then it's not really "weak" as much as Sorcery finally kind of caught up. You can't really go wrong starting off as either a Pyromancer or Knight either, although if it's not your first playthrough, I'd always pick the Knight, since you can get all the stuff the Pyromancer starts with anyway relatively early, but you come with much better gear.
The best thing about being a FTH/INT build is that while you are having to split your stats, you still gain increased fire damage from either stat, and they don't have to be even to see gains either. This allows you to focus more on FTH earlier on in the game so that you can get the medium heal miracle, which is more flask efficient until you're at +3 or +4. If you don't want to use the heal, it still opens up the ability to regen off of a chime. You also need 12 FTH for quite possibly the best early to late PvE weapon in the game.
Astora's Straight Sword
And at 40/40 the damage will still be considerably less because there aren't as many pieces of equipment that buff Pyromancy. An average Great Heavy Soul Arrow will be doing about 1k damage at endgame, whereas
Chaos Bed Vestiges
If you're fully kitted out in Sorc gear your damage will be considerably higher, though the gains from those items will continue up until
Irithyll
Smouldering Lake
As for why you wouldn't want to use Pyromancies, slots are a pretty good reason in my mind, and there will be better spells - particularly Dark spells, that will scale just fine with INT alone.
UnluckyKate
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Top of Archdragon, before the wall of the second boss. Can't summon anyone, keep failing, can't be summoned, keep failing.
server bug or ?
server bug or ?
So onion bro flaked on me.
Here's what I did
Wtf?
I want the armour but I don't wanna kill mah bro for it.
Here's what I did
1) Meet him at the lift but not fight the fire demon with him. (If his quest was broken I wouldn't have seen him at Profound Capital later in a cell)
2) Talk to him while he is trapped in the well.
3) Get his armour back.
4) Meet him in the kitchen and toast with him.
5) Free him from his cell in Profound Capital, he gave me a slab.
6) Go kill the fire demon while I am scavenging around Undead Settlement searching for leftovers.
7) Start the Yhorm fight with a player summon...but he doesn't show up, I die. So I do it again, but without a summon but he doesn't show up still.
8) Go back to his cell, and he is sitting there telling me to be on my way and that he will be going his way soon.
2) Talk to him while he is trapped in the well.
3) Get his armour back.
4) Meet him in the kitchen and toast with him.
5) Free him from his cell in Profound Capital, he gave me a slab.
6) Go kill the fire demon while I am scavenging around Undead Settlement searching for leftovers.
7) Start the Yhorm fight with a player summon...but he doesn't show up, I die. So I do it again, but without a summon but he doesn't show up still.
8) Go back to his cell, and he is sitting there telling me to be on my way and that he will be going his way soon.
Wtf?
I want the armour but I don't wanna kill mah bro for it.
Not sure if there's a weapon that does so, but there are definitely weapon arts that do. Mail Breaker's is the most obvious one.
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