Artorias should be a great fight, his model looks great but really want to see more of his animations and combat style. Hopefully it's a really different type of reflex-based fight, like O&S or Sif, and not gimmicky or cheese prone.
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Artorias should be a great fight, his model looks great but really want to see more of his animations and combat style. Hopefully it's a really different type of reflex-based fight, like O&S or Sif, and not gimmicky or cheese prone.
You can find some gifs of the fight at this link.
http://devidementia.tumblr.com/post/29369303649/an-abyss-was-begat-of-the-ancient-beast-and
He looks really, really awesome.
He seems like a more balanced Gwyn, except he leaves and AOE where ever he moves and sometimes when he attacks.
PetriP-TNT
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Yeah, it happens sometimes. The bad thing is that when you die, you lose your souls and have to retrieve them but usually the items aren't in where you died.
Thanks. The guy disconnected instantly so I didn't even get the chance to find that out for myself.
Palette Swap
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I'm currently in Blighttown and my Drake Sword is starting to get a bit long in the tooth.
Any weapon I should use instead? I haven't picked up Iaito yet (about to, whenever I'll stop fucking up that leap) and I have a winged spear.
Are these worth upgrading or should I keep collecting vanilla weapons for now and upgrade stronger weapons later in the game ?
Any weapon I should use instead? I haven't picked up Iaito yet (about to, whenever I'll stop fucking up that leap) and I have a winged spear.
Are these worth upgrading or should I keep collecting vanilla weapons for now and upgrade stronger weapons later in the game ?
Jackben
bitch I'm taking calls.
When you get back topside try farming the Balder Knights in the Church for the Balder Swag Sword. Upgraded Winged Spear with shield isn't too bad as long as you remember to 2-hand when you get an opening.
yep. a few other common choices for demolishing full upgrades:
Most people just use the lightning spear +2 found as loot in sens fortress until they figure out what other weapons there are to choose from
washing pole or uchigatana - npc event store only (or 4 uchi kill a useful npc unrecommended)
Great scythe - found in catacombs...easy to find if you know where it is!!!!
Claymore - dragon bridge
Zweihander - firelink skelly area
for strength characters - all black knight weapons and dragon
for magic - moonlight greatsword; any weapon +15 apply crystal magic weapon.
for dex - washing pole/ uchi /ricards rapier
for faith - anything you want but keep it non-elemental go +15 and use darkmoon or sunlight blade.
If you go back to blighttown, one those ogres are gone...just look out teh right hand side of the wooden walkway at the top you will see a hill with giants guarding it ready to throw boulders...the boss tunnel is in a small opening on that mound.
If you found the bonfire, its exactly NW of the door to the cave if NOrth is facing out of the cave door....It is across the swamp so bring purple moss, the rusted ring, and several summons!
trade off your rusted ring for a better ring e.g. flame resist or wolf ring when you get to the fog gate.If you go back to blighttown, one those ogres are gone...just look out teh right hand side of the wooden walkway at the top you will see a hill with giants guarding it ready to throw boulders...the boss tunnel is in a small opening on that mound.
If you found the bonfire, its exactly NW of the door to the cave if NOrth is facing out of the cave door....It is across the swamp so bring purple moss, the rusted ring, and several summons!
Dang, I guess I missed it, yeah I already found the bonfire at the bottom when I dropped into the swamp, I killed those boulder dudes earlier on but I thought I was suppose to go back up, I'll explore that area some more, thanks!
Any weapon is better than the Drake Sword if you upgrade it.
Don't worry about the materials, you will be able to farm them. Only be careful when you upgrade to +15 because slabs are very rare.
http://www.gamesradar.com/dark-souls-prepare-die-edition-developer-walkthrough/
Walkthrough of the new DLC. Spoilers on bosses and areas.
Edit: HAHA. Love the fact they died several times but did not want to show "You Died" and they even had to use a debug menu to make a boss easier.
Walkthrough of the new DLC. Spoilers on bosses and areas.
Edit: HAHA. Love the fact they died several times but did not want to show "You Died" and they even had to use a debug menu to make a boss easier.
Incendiary
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Of course! However it depends on how far you got with those five hours and why you gave up. Five hours on a new game, I'd say it'd put you roughly in the Undead Parish/Lower Undead Burg, maaaaaybe in the Depths by now? Did you give up because of difficulty or boredom?
Difficulty, but my starting class build was a Wanderer and I heard that using a Pyro is a little easier, since it's OP
Palette Swap
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I don't know if that will help but I left the game sitting on the shelf for 8 months and started last week and didn't have too much trouble getting back into it. I had played for something like 5 hours (stopped at a dragon on a bridge) and used a Wanderer too.
I kind of feared I had cornered myself with a shitty build/class but it seems hard to actually do that. This thread and the other one are super helpful.
Red Liquorice
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If you're coming back to the game after a long period of time and didn't really get far in it, I'd start a fresh. It's that type of game, make a new character and you're back up to speed in no time.
Just remember when you start, from Firelink Shrine you want to head towards the viaduct to Undead Burg, the other directions are more difficult and aren't really meant to be tackled first (well, on your first playthrough any way).
Just remember when you start, from Firelink Shrine you want to head towards the viaduct to Undead Burg, the other directions are more difficult and aren't really meant to be tackled first (well, on your first playthrough any way).
omg, when is the console DLC out? I don't know if I can hold out for months not to watch something like this :/
Incendiary
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Wanderer's an okay class. If you're thinking about going Pyro, you may want to see if you can make it to the Depths first because you find the guy who sells pyromancies down there, and instead of starting over you can just buff your character with pyromancies as well. I started out as a Thief and ended up using Pyromancy spells to help out in boss battles so that's entirely an option.
Also as a note if you do decide to start over, the easiest class by far is Sorcerer. Pyromancer is less powerful because there are quite a few bosses that are immune to fire which means you've got to use other tactics.
Alright thanks man, I'm considering that Sorcerer class now. One more question (sorry that I don't know too much about Dark Souls), but what stats are important to level up and which ones aren't?
Incendiary
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INT is important for a sorcerer because it determines how much damage you do with your spells. Attunement is also important, but not until later in the game when you have a multitude of spells. I ended the game with 6 magic slots but could have easily gotten by with 5.
VIT and END are probably the next most important stats, as VIT determines your health and END determines how heavy your armor/equipment can be. The higher your END, the heavier armor you can use, but if you're going straight sorcerer you'll probably use lighter armor. Still, it doesn't hurt to have END, especially for the stamina gain. (My sorcerer was a glass cannon, I barely pumped anything into VIT but your first time through you should probably spend some points there as you get comfortable.)
STR and DEX basically determine what kind of melee weapon you want to use. Fast weapons and bows use DEX, and the bigger weapons like greatswords and hammers and the like use STR. As a sorcerer, though, you're probably better off using a Lightning or Fire weapon that doesn't scale with a stat so you can focus on pumping INT. So you'll only need enough STR or DEX to make sure you can use the base weapon you enjoy. Also, spoiler for late game equipment,
there's a sword you can get late in the game that scales with INT that is perfect for sorcerers.
Resistance is a useless stat, don't bother with it.
Thank you so much man! I'm probably just going to start playing again tomorrow or Friday (depending on Rayman Origins), but I will be sure to update you guys if I get any further this time (which I'm sure I will)
Really isn't an issue once you unlock stuff past the basic soul arrow, though.
Yeah definitely go sorcerer...I start all my new characters with sorcery because of all the starting characters they have the least resistance...a useless stat. You can build your character however you want.....just because you start as sorcerer does not mean you can't pump faith or whatever...I would rather start the game with a few extra points in INT even for my faith builds as just one level (16) lets you use all the basic sorcery in early game and then you can switch to pyro/faith combos, or stick with sorcery etc.
The only reason pyro is easier at the start is that you get the glove from square one...the sorcery takes awhile to warm up...but once it does it passes pyro...plus pyro can be acquired fairly early anyway and you can use it along side of your magic regardless.
ShadowgeistX
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Dammit, trying to do NG+ on my sorcery character and I'm getting pretty much nothing but invasions when I'm trying to run through a stage. I don't think there's been a co-op summon at ALL.
And it's always at the worst time too, like right after I get charged by the boar lol...16 vit pretty much means I'm a one-hit wonder too.
On another note though, sorcery is pretty crazy. It's like I learned to parry and counter and dodge on my other character for nothing. Who needs to parry when your homing/crystal soulmass ends up counterattacking enemies when they get close?
And it's always at the worst time too, like right after I get charged by the boar lol...16 vit pretty much means I'm a one-hit wonder too.
On another note though, sorcery is pretty crazy. It's like I learned to parry and counter and dodge on my other character for nothing. Who needs to parry when your homing/crystal soulmass ends up counterattacking enemies when they get close?
Cameron122
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My friend let me borrow his copy. I'm really enjoying it so far. I'll miss Bolitaria though. Just got to the Gargoyles ._.
These games have the best melee combat in gaming.
These games have the best melee combat in gaming.
I just rang the 2nd bell down in Blighttown, killed Ceaseless Discharge but obviously Demon's Ruins are too much right now. I know I should go to the gate that opened, up by the blacksmith.. but are you telling me I need to backtrack through all of Blighttown to get back there?
Has to be an easier way.. but the only other possible way I see is blocked by planks..
Has to be an easier way.. but the only other possible way I see is blocked by planks..
http://youtu.be/6Jd_-P1ZjTw
Free for all PvP!
For those worrying about spawn camping it seems you have a short amount invulnerable time when you spawn.Look at the guy in havels when he got hit
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Jd_-P1ZjTw&#t=189s
Free for all PvP!
For those worrying about spawn camping it seems you have a short amount invulnerable time when you spawn.Look at the guy in havels when he got hit
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Jd_-P1ZjTw&#t=189s
Red Liquorice
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This arena PvP is exactly what the game needs, I'm glad they added such a thing.
I do wonder what will happen to PvP through the rest of the game though. It would seem like the arena basically replaces an area like the forest, but invasions and PvP through other high traffic areas like Anor Londo are just as fun because of the environment and enemies in the area itself.
I know a lot of people like to just invade and duel, but I like to use the environment as part of the fight too - if you're just in a flat square box with no enemies there's nothing to do other than duel.
Better get some wins in against those blue phantom scrubs in Anor Londo whilst I can! XD
I do wonder what will happen to PvP through the rest of the game though. It would seem like the arena basically replaces an area like the forest, but invasions and PvP through other high traffic areas like Anor Londo are just as fun because of the environment and enemies in the area itself.
I know a lot of people like to just invade and duel, but I like to use the environment as part of the fight too - if you're just in a flat square box with no enemies there's nothing to do other than duel.
Better get some wins in against those blue phantom scrubs in Anor Londo whilst I can! XD
I just started my SL1 run no upgrade.
This is actually very interesting, not having a decent weapon makes every step a challenge and every boss fight extremely rewarding.
I just beat Capra and now I'm starting to feel the difficulty increase (since enemies get stronger but not I).
What I also found very interesting is that I found myself using items I don't usually use. Now these things really shine and become very important (fire bombs, poison, resin...).
I'm right now planning every move in my head. It's amazing how the game changes and gains interest despite my hundreds (thousand?) hours I already spent in the game.
I think everything is doable except for 1 boss: 4 Kings. This will be a nightmare without a good weapon since you'll find yourself fighting many Kings at the same time. We shall see...
Thanks 2AdEPT for this brilliant idea. I will tell you when I reach Anor Londo to fight the boss together there.
I won't have much time to play before next week though...
This is actually very interesting, not having a decent weapon makes every step a challenge and every boss fight extremely rewarding.
I just beat Capra and now I'm starting to feel the difficulty increase (since enemies get stronger but not I).
What I also found very interesting is that I found myself using items I don't usually use. Now these things really shine and become very important (fire bombs, poison, resin...).
I'm right now planning every move in my head. It's amazing how the game changes and gains interest despite my hundreds (thousand?) hours I already spent in the game.
I think everything is doable except for 1 boss: 4 Kings. This will be a nightmare without a good weapon since you'll find yourself fighting many Kings at the same time. We shall see...
Thanks 2AdEPT for this brilliant idea. I will tell you when I reach Anor Londo to fight the boss together there.
I won't have much time to play before next week though...
I'm going sorcery on my new run but still started as a pyro: you get the glove and Fireball, and then getting a catalyst & the two soul arrow spells is trivial (grinding up 6000 souls to buy from the smith outside New Londo doesn't take long at all). So you can have pyro & sorcery before you've even gotten to the parish.
phew, beat the spider queen thing with no flasks left, game kind of rewards you for being patience and waiting for an opening.
To the next area! I think I'm going to farm a few of those large titanium stuff before moving on, my greatsword+5 feels a bit dated.
Felt like a long trip through the depth and blight town, I might've missed some items here but I think I've explored it enough. Strangely I think blight town is my favorite area so far, was kind of fun watching the enemies fall to their death when they try to jump me.
The toxic dart dudes and the swamp are probably my least favorite thing but at least the dart dudes don't respawn.
To the next area! I think I'm going to farm a few of those large titanium stuff before moving on, my greatsword+5 feels a bit dated.
Felt like a long trip through the depth and blight town, I might've missed some items here but I think I've explored it enough. Strangely I think blight town is my favorite area so far, was kind of fun watching the enemies fall to their death when they try to jump me.
The toxic dart dudes and the swamp are probably my least favorite thing but at least the dart dudes don't respawn.
Dubbedinenglish
Banned
Booooo! Undead Rapport isn't as cool as I thought.
It should be ranged.
It should be ranged.
Same here, I always seem to get invaded at the most inopportune times when I'm not prepared. Then I try to have a real duel with somebody and all they want to do is backstab or parry the way to victory, very few really care about distancing, timing and tactical area stuff. Which is a shame. I've found many more satisfying fights like this in Demon's...
And I agree on the magic too. One of the biggest fails of the game stat and equipment wise is there just isn't a reliable way to block magic for relatively low stat requirements, the Crest Shield is definitely no stand in for the DSS.
ShadowgeistX
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I can deal with parrying if it's done really well, there are times that I'll admit a loss because I was hit with an amazing parry. Backstabbing is the worst though. You can tell exactly when it's going to happen. Your opponent takes out his big, slow, high damage weapon, starts running towards you, then teleports behind you when he's closed half the distance and backstabs. It's way too laggy for any kind of decent pvp, sadly.
I mean I don't really have a issue with people who use lots of parries, I use them myself sometimes, it just gets lame when that's all somebody wants to do. And since there's very little you can do to sort of counter a parry it can devolve into them just standing there and not doing anything else, until of course they go for a backstab, after the parry. Really hope the DLC balances some of these issues or gives a few new options.
It's Stockholm Syndrome.
Incendiary
Banned
When I played as a thief, my only option was backstab in PvP. Of course I didn't invade people, but when people invaded me with their gigantic claymores I just rolled around them and backstabbed with my puny little Lightning Knife and sent them back from whence they came.
ShadowgeistX
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That's kinda interesting, I never played a thief before. My main weapons were spear/polearm in demon's, and curved swords/katanas in dark.
I really gotta find a way around these laggy backstabs though, they're pretty damn brutal when everyone's using lightning weapons.
pretty much have to trudge back up unless you did not use the bonfire on the way down and can use a homeward bone...most people use the bonfire and make the journey back...its not really that far if you run by enemies and have all the shortcuts open up top..
I am on holidays so just PM me here as Icheck here frequently while foolining around on my new RIG. Playing Iorveth path TW2 and BMAC....and then friend just gives me a copy of deus X....I may not even install it right now...got P2D and actually pre-ordered guild wrs 2 knowing absolutely nothing about it....good grief I am set up until Xmas for sure!
But can't wait to do co-op on SL1 no upgrade O&S....I think I am wiling to let Solaire in to our SL1 circle as the last few times I tried it I had a hard time even clearing out both giants without using a tonne of my 20 estus'. I am sure you prolly spent less time on Capra and Queelag than i did...but that is one of the reasons I did this...to get better....I was too King at making things easy for myself over my first 1000 hours of souls by maxing the magic and particularly the Faith miracles....I also know every cheese tactic and used them liberally before...not any more this is true masochism......can't wait to hear how things go for you in TOG. I did allow the divine club and it is easily the best weapon just laying around to use....I think four kings may be less trouble than you think using full Havels or stone with DWGR and Havels ring etc. and then just spamming divine club....we'll see.....more concerned about O&S believe it or not!!! Man I hate when those giants HEAL all the time!!!!!
This is a decent option and would be the best were it not for the 3 points of extra resistance...I believe you get 11 with pyro and only 8 with sorcerer...I like getting the extra 6 points of INT off the bat and just wailing away on soul arrow.
I found that on PS3 I only rarely get lag issues such that I can't tell what's going on....it happens more to me while playing with other continents like Japan....try to find the peak times for NA like 4-5pm eastern, 2am fri-sat night....late at night you get some early bird Japanese though.....still not all of these are laggy for me.....t is rare but curse worthy when it happens for sure.
ShadowgeistX
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I'm currently on the xbox version, although I'm set to co-op with my euro friend this weekend on PS3. I'll check how it goes on PS3.
I'm a little curious about the SL1/no upgrades run though. Are you guys just picking any class and not levelling it, or actually picking pyromancer who starts at SL1 and keeping him there? And for the whole no upgrades part, are you just using the starter weapon? If it sounds interesting enough, I might try it just to see what it's like. I've already punished myself by trying a castlevania build lol
Incendiary
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Playing as a thief basically boiled down to dodge/backstab all enemies you could do that to, use pyromancy on enemies you couldn't backstab. It made the flame-immune bosses fun as hell (read: awful) let me tell you.
I've never had any trouble with lag during PvP, although I never made a PvP build or focused on that aspect of the game. I just got invaded in the usual areas and did some Darkmoon invasions.
So I just killed Queelag and walked into Sen's Fortress for the first time and immediately got my ass handed to me by the first 2 lizard dudes in there. I'm SL 37 I think right now. Is there a good place to farm souls to level myself up a bit? Anywhere else I should go before tackling Sen's? I already did Darkroot Garden and killed the butterfly.
Jackben
bitch I'm taking calls.
Your level isn't bad for that area. I would focus on getting a powerful weapon or upgrading one you already use. The snakemen are all about dodge or parry, their hits are too strong to tank.
You might try exploring more in Darkrot Garden, try walking down to the Basin and killing the golems, mushrooms, tackling Sif or the Hydra.
Incendiary
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Having a higher level isn't as important as having the right equipment. Upgrade your weapon or armor instead of looking for a higher level. The lizards are pretty tough overall compared to some other enemies, but the whole point of Sen's Fortress is taking advantage of your environment. There's a floor trap that shoots arrows at the entrance of the temple, luring at least one of the lizard in front of it before you activate it can usually kill one of them off without you having to do anything else.
Yeah this style is absolutely no upgrades....start as SL1 pyro and no leveling either.....but you CAN use whatever weapons or Armour you find and have the stats to use...which isn't much....inevitably the best weapon found is the occult club downgraded to divine for the catacombs. The beauty of this style is you have to really strategize about how to approach things..its like getting a new game. Not to sound cocky, but doing a SL1 run with full upgrades barely changes the game at all, where not allowing upgrades changes it quite a bit. Cheese tools and miracles/pyro etc. become hot commodities...if you have the stats! Red Tearstone ring, power within, dusk crown, dusk ring, light crossbow, all become staples. I suggest that you CAN hire help as long as they are NPC or if a real player that they should be observing the same rules....hiring two helpers is stretching it, but i am willing to accept one NPC plus one real player observing the rules. I intend to do O&S with help but did queelag solo with the NPC.
sen's is about taking it slow and being patient.....the lizards telegraph what they do such that you should be able to backstab them easily and not even take a hit. But yes...take them on one at time and definitely try to use the darts on one.
I suggest having a good bow and even poison arrows for this level.
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