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[Omegasquash]

Thanks! I've read the OP (Including the one linked and I've already begun taking some of those steps. I worry about smiling though. I'm told I'm an angry looking fellow, so I guess I should do something about that, but I just feel creepy whenever I smile about stuff.

The more you smile, the less you'll think about it. And it's not creepy unless you look like this guy:

Or this asshole:

And trust me, you do not look like those guys.

 

[Furio53]

Or this asshole:

And trust me, you do not look like those guys.

 

[Reckoner]

Is there an option to, after six months of the infamous rejection, not forgetting a girl and try to get back into the game, realising you still really love her?

 

[Count Dookkake]

Gacy pic would be better if instead of "basement" it said "rope trick."

 

[Cubsfan23]

It's not only about that. Stop focusing on one thing an actually listen to it.

One point that was made is the ugly to average looking guys have zero chance out there because not even the girls in the same class as them want them. They want something better, and they get it. Those guys can't get 10's and they can't get 5's, so what are they to do? Date a dog??????? Shit is crazy out there.

Ok you're right, I give up. Why are you in this thread then?

 

[MVP]

I don't think 'in your league' necessarily has much to do with looks, but refers more to someone you have a lot in common with.

Absolutely not. Horrible advice, and I hate when people give guys false hope with BS like this.

There are "leagues" when it comes to physical attractiveness, and it doesn't matter how many things you have in common with a woman, if you are nowhere near her in looks, and don't have anything else to bring your status close to hers (money, fame) then you will not get anywhere with her.

The reason I hate it is because it causes all the lonely men out there with unrealistic expectations to keep being lonely for the rest of their lives. Just get it in your head that it doesn't matter how many video games you two like, Olivia Munn will not date you (just an example). Have realistic expectations, and then you can start meeting people and having good relationships.

 

[AHA-Lambda]

Absolutely not. Horrible advice, and I hate when people give guys false hope with BS like this.

There are "leagues" when it comes to physical attractiveness, and it doesn't matter how many things you have in common with a woman, if you are nowhere near her in looks, and don't have anything else to bring your status close to hers (money, fame) then you will not get anywhere with her.

The reason I hate it is because it causes all the lonely men out there with unrealistic expectations to keep being lonely for the rest of their lives. Just get it in your head that it doesn't matter how many video games you two like, Olivia Munn will not date you (just an example). Have realistic expectations, and then you can start meeting people and having good relationships.

Nah, that is total crap man. I particularly know one fat, ugly, boring bastard who is going out with a complete babe and they have been in a steady relationship for about 4 years.

I thought the point of this topic was to help people and give them confidence. There's no point bringing all this crap from the last couple pages in here.

 

[FO-totality]

Saw this, thought of the Dating-Age and some of the folks here.

Love you, GAFfers.

 

[Vermillion]

Absolutely not. Horrible advice, and I hate when people give guys false hope with BS like this.

There are "leagues" when it comes to physical attractiveness, and it doesn't matter how many things you have in common with a woman, if you are nowhere near her in looks, and don't have anything else to bring your status close to hers (money, fame) then you will not get anywhere with her.

The reason I hate it is because it causes all the lonely men out there with unrealistic expectations to keep being lonely for the rest of their lives. Just get it in your head that it doesn't matter how many video games you two like, Olivia Munn will not date you (just an example). Have realistic expectations, and then you can start meeting people and having good relationships.

No.

From SimplePickup's Twitter:

"People who say you need to have money and good looks to date a girl are chumps. You have more to offer than superficial shit"

Happy Wednesday, Dating-Age!

 

[MVP]

Nah, that is total crap man. I particularly know one fat, ugly, boring bastard who is going out with a complete babe and they have been in a steady relationship for about 4 years.

Nope, either you're underrating him, overrating her, or there is more to the story. Women simply don't date too many leagues under themselves, just like men don't like to date too many leagues under themselves either.

That's fine though, keep blowing smoke up people's asses, and we'll keep having guys come in here again and again like "Why am I not getting anywhere? Why do I never get second date? How come women don't like me?", etc. It's because you're trying to hit homers every night when you're simply not appealing enough for the women you're going for, but fine. I'm wrong, miracles happen.

I find this type of mentality being spread here similar to "get rich quick" schemes, that promise that any regular Joe can be making $700 a day from his basement, if he only implements there 3 simple rules, blah blah...I attack those, too.

 

[MVP]

No.

Let me guess, that guy has something to sell...

*goes to website*

Ah, $1995 bootcamps. Yep, better sell that snake oil and make it seem like any guy can get rich quick aka land any hot babe they want.

Not only that, but a lot of these "pick up artists" actually are physically attractive as well.

 

[Vermillion]

Nope, either you're underrating him, overrating her, or there is more to the story. Women simply don't date too many leagues under themselves, just like men don't like to date too many leagues under themselves either.

That's fine though, keep blowing smoke up people's asses, and we'll keep having guys come in here again and again like "Why am I not getting anywhere? Why do I never get second date? How come women don't like me?", etc. It's because you're trying to hit homers every night when you're simply not appealing enough for the women you're going for, but fine. I'm wrong, miracles happen.

I find this type of mentality being spread here similar to "get rich quick" schemes, that promise that any regular Joe can be making $700 a day from his basement, if he only implements there 3 simple rules, blah blah...I attack those, too.

See, a "get-rich-quick-scheme" is a scheme. But you can get rich without a scheme. What you're saying is the equivalent of "you can't get rich, don't try."

 

[MVP]

See, a "get-rich-quick-scheme" is a scheme. But you can get rich without a scheme. What you're saying is the equivalent of "you can't get rich, don't try."

No what I'm saying is you CAN get rich, and you CAN date a woman, but you won't get rich easy unless you get lucky, and if you're a 2 on a scale of 1 to 10, you won't successfully date a 10 unless you get lucky.

 

[Vermillion]

Let me guess, that guy has something to sell...

*goes to website*

Ah, $1995 bootcamps. Yep, better sell that snake oil and make it seem like any guy can get rich quick aka land any hot babe they want.

Not only that, but a lot of these "pick up artists" actually are physically attractive as well.

Has nothing to do with anything. For one, most of the videos are free. For two, I'm not advocating the artist, I'm advocating that Twitter post right there.

But believe whatever you want to.

 

[Lafiel]

Basically this.

I don't think 'in your league' necessarily has much to do with looks, but refers more to someone you have a lot in common with.

For me "league" kind of comes down to status and maturity, despite being fairly confident and decent looking, I'd consider the average older career woman (like mid-20s) to be above my league because they have a good job (i'm unemployed by comparison) far more mature in terms of personality, present themselves in a classier way and probably don't live with their parents.

 

[MVP]

Has nothing to do with anything. For one, most of the videos are free. For two, I'm not advocating the artist, I'm advocating that Twitter post right there.

But believe whatever you want to.

The Twitter post you quoted I agree with. It says to date "a woman" you don't need good looks or money. True, but to date models or bonafide 10s you better be up there yourself, close to it, or have money, drugs, fame, etc. and I'm just attacking those high expectations.

I mean 7s or 8s can date 10s with some charm and confidence. I'm not denying that. You just will never see Napolean Dynamite dating Jessica Biel unless there's more to the story.

 

[Vermillion]

The Twitter post you quoted I agree with. It says to date "a woman" you don't need good looks or money. True, but to date models or bonafide 10s you better be up there yourself, close to it, or have money, drugs, fame, etc. and I'm just attacking those high expectations.

I mean 7s or 8s can date 10s with some charm and confidence. I'm not denying that. You just will never see Napolean Dynamite dating Jessica Biel unless there's more to the story.

Yes, yes, those are the odds, sure. But that shouldn't mean people should play it safe for the sake of it.

 

[MVP]

Yes, yes, those are the odds, sure. But that shouldn't mean people should play it safe for the sake of it.

Not in general, you're right, but if you're miserable because you've been lonely your whole life, you're 26 and still a virgin, and these women you meet just don't give you any play, it may be time to lower your expectations a bit, while also improving yourself.

That's all I'm saying. I mean I want to be a billionaire too, but I still settle for a 9 to 5 in the meantime. Realistic expectations.

 

[SquiddyCracker]

Saw this, though of the Dating-Age and some of the folks here.

Love you, GAFfers.

That lion is so cuddly.

 

[Devolution]

Sorry, that's a bit too much to dive into blindly.
I'd rather have a list of his points, from what I've gathered:

• It's society's fault that guys have a hard time dating girls
• It's unfair on guys, and women have way too much "power" in society
• Being a heterosexual male is tough

I skipped ahead and he's talking about how men are fixing everything in society, how women assumes guys will fix their cars/computers/problems and aren't appreciative of men.

Sorry, sounds misogynistic.

EDIT: And lol, there we go "So we do them favours, and maybe expect a relationship in return, but women don't care".

"Never in the history of mankind, has a woman's vagina had this much power. They're not gonna let this power go, this will be a fight to the death"

That's about it, not gonna listen to more of that drivel.

This kind of shit is just excuse making. And it manages to ignore all of the men who don't have problems. Between this and the "women and men" can't be friends bullshit, a lot of people really love to blame everything but themselves.

 

[Kung Fu Grip]

This kind of shit is just excuse making. And it manages to ignore all of the men who don't have problems. Between this and the "women and men" can't be friends bullshit, a lot of people really love to blame everything but themselves.

What? Obviously it seems you didn't listen either. There is no excuse, thats the way it is.

And your making no sense, why do you those lucky few men out there aren't having problems??????????

Hint- It's basically what the program i linked is about!

 

[Devolution]

What? Obviously it seems you didn't listen either. There is no excuse, thats the way it is.

And your making no sense, why do you those lucky few men out there aren't having problems??????????

Hint- It's basically what the program i linked is about!

Why the fuck would you worry about this shit? This is the kind of stuff that won't help in your endeavors and just reinforces bitter nonsense that will get you no closer to dating women.

 

[CrudeDiatribe]

And your making no sense, why do you those lucky few men out there aren't having problems??????????

There are seven billion people on this planet, each and every one (almost) born due to a man and a woman fucking. It's not just "a few lucky men".

 

[Kung Fu Grip]

Why the fuck would you worry about this shit? This is the kind of stuff that won't help in your endeavors and just reinforces bitter nonsense that will get you no closer to dating women.

The whole dating scene is unfair to some people. There are guys thats going to live their whole lives without a single touch from a female. Thats fucked up. Expect more george sodini's soon.

 

[Devolution]

The whole dating scene is unfair to some people. There are guys thats going to live their whole lives without a single touch from a female. Thats fucked up. Expect more george sodini's soon.

Unfair? Get the fuck over it. You know what's really attractive? People who wallow in their own self pity.

 

[Antagon]

The whole dating scene is unfair to some people. There are guys thats going to live their whole lives without a single touch from a female. Thats fucked up. Expect more george sodini's soon.

Boohoo. Keep swallowing in selfpity. So much easier then doing something about it, isn't it?

 

[MVP]

Expect more george sodini's soon.

 

[ClovingWestbrook]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgHOquV4lic&feature=related

Take your time. It's an hour long (at least listen to half if your lazy). Then come at me.

HOLY SHIT. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH.

Poor me
Woe is me
Women are making my life hard
Women don't understand how hard it is out here for a P.I.M.P.
poor me

This is some quality shit right here.

Women have it easier?
Women can never be lonely like a guy?

OMG. What are you? You actually prescribe to this shit?

And you're actually blaming WOMEN for that crazy asshole who became a killer?

 

[Rom1944]

The whole dating scene is unfair to some people. There are guys thats going to live their whole lives without a single touch from a female. Thats fucked up. Expect more george sodini's soon.

Well what is fucked up it's telling that unfair dating makes killers also hooking up with a girl or dating one is not the panacea it will not magically cure depressions or unfulfilling lives.

 

[SquiddyCracker]

The whole dating scene is unfair to some people. There are guys thats going to live their whole lives without a single touch from a female. Thats fucked up. Expect more george sodini's soon.

The whole "if I do X, Y, Z, for this lady, she will have sex with me!"-mentality is frighteningly common, and totally not conductive to actually developing amorous relationships.
Sadly, the reaction to this mentality is almost just as bad, with the whole "women and men can't really be friends" and likening dating to a game (and women targets, etc).

Here's my tip:

Ignore the dating scene

Don't go to clubs, don't use online dating sites, stop focusing on getting it together with a woman.
Live your life, be social, participate in various clubs/communities and meet people that you have stuff in common with, a foundation to actually start a relationship.

Eventually, you might hit it off with a friendly male/female, and that person might end up your mate.

 

[EviLore]

The dating scene is about as fair and merit-based as it gets in life.

 

[marathonfool]

I'm certain most of the posters here are in the age group of 18-25. That's probably when physical looks matters the most. After 25 or so, success, accomplishments, social intelligence, and humor beats out looks 9 out of 10.

The woe is me attitude is destructive. Best advice I've heard is from an economist. Be successful. Whatever context that entails.

 

[Kung Fu Grip]

Unfair? Get the fuck over it. You know what's really attractive? People who wallow in their own self pity.

I don't think it's wallowing when girls are the way they are. Only if you could step in the shoes of some of these guys. Man.......

Well what is fucked up it's telling that unfair dating makes killers also hooking up with a girl or dating one is not the panacea it will not magically cure depressions or unfulfilling lives.

No. But having a companion is a wonderful thing. Im sure thats why you, and everyone else, have one or are looking for one. Yes?

 

[SquiddyCracker]

.

 

[Devolution]

I don't think it's wallowing when girls are the way they are. Only if you could step in the shoes of some of these guys. Man.......

Yeah okay bro.

 

[ClovingWestbrook]

I don't think it's wallowing when girls are the way they are. Only if you could step in the shoes of some of these guys. Man.......



No. But having a companion is a wonderful thing. Im sure thats why you, and everyone else, have one or are looking for one. Yes?

You poor, poor soul. Dont fix your issues, rather blame it on the women. Smh.

 

[SquiddyCracker]

I don't think it's wallowing when girls are the way they are. Only if you could step in the shoes of some of these guys. Man.......

No. But having a companion is a wonderful thing. Im sure thats why you, and everyone else, have one or are looking for one. Yes?

I quote myself again, because I think spending time in this thread is actually doing you more harm than good:

Here's my tip:

Ignore the dating scene

Don't go to clubs, don't use online dating sites, stop focusing on getting it together with a woman.
Live your life, be social, participate in various clubs/communities and meet people that you have stuff in common with, a foundation to actually start a relationship.

Eventually, you might hit it off with a friendly male/female, and that person might end up your mate.

.

 

[Devolution]

You poor, poor soul. Dont fix your issues, rather blame it on the women. Smh.

The men with girlfriends and wives are anomalies bruh.

 

[Rom1944]

I don't think it's wallowing when girls are the way they are. Only if you could step in the shoes of some of these guys. Man.......



No. But having a companion is a wonderful thing. Im sure thats why you, and everyone else, have one or are looking for one. Yes?

Having a companion is a wonderful thing but it's not something to be obsessed about, it's not healthy and that obssesion makes it even harder to find one.

 

[FO-totality]

I don't think it's wallowing when girls are the way they are. Only if you could step in the shoes of some of these guys. Man.......



No. But having a companion is a wonderful thing. Im sure thats why you, and everyone else, have one or are looking for one. Yes?

No, man up.

Sorry to be so blunt, but yeah, if I could step into their shoes I'd still try. I haven't had the best of luck and I have my shitty moods now and again about dating, but I still try and not spin my wheels fighting against what I'm trying to do.

And a compainion is a wonderful thing when you are happy with yourself already.

 

[FyreWulff]

Yeah, if a woman (or man) isn't interested in you, then you just move on. Would you really want a relationship where you've "convinced" them to like you? People don't owe other people a handy, and it certainly isn't going to make someone a killer if they don't get one.

Try with a person, then if they ignore you or shoot you down, stop wasting your time. Move on. Women aren't in some gigantic meta-club where they share tips and secrets and man-deets on their man-sheets.

 

[ClovingWestbrook]

Yeah okay bro.

You just don't understand the challenges that we who have penises go through!

 

[Devolution]

You just don't understand the challenges that we who have penises go through!

I get periods wanna trade?

 

[EviLore]

Yikes. Women are just people, like you. They're attracted to a different set of attributes than men are attracted to, by and large, and it varies there as much as it does with men as well, and you may need to take the initiative where they might mostly choose between the people who have the balls to talk to them, but you have no one to blame but yourself if you're not successful. 99% of people around you are more successful than you are. Why is that? Is it because women are evil bitches, or because you have the wrong mindset or the wrong set of attributes or the wrong everything? Address your internal problems, don't blame 50% of the human race for not giving it up for you.

 

[ClovingWestbrook]

I get periods wanna trade?

Well... you don't have to deal with loneliness!

Yikes. Women are just people, like you. They're attracted to a different set of attributes than men are attracted to, by and large, and it varies there as much as it does with men as well, and you may need to take the initiative where they might mostly choose between the people who have the balls to talk to them, but you have no one to blame but yourself if you're not successful. 99% of people around you are more successful than you are. Why is that? Is it because women are evil bitches, or because you have the wrong mindset or the wrong set of attributes or the wrong everything? Address your internal problems, don't blame 50% of the human race for not giving it up for you.

But that takes self-reflection and requires accepting responsibility for ones own limitations and issues.

 

[Antagon]

I get periods wanna trade?

Can I get 10 minute orgasms in the trade as well?

 

[Devolution]

Can I get 10 minute orgasms in the trade as well?

If I get to piss easily on the walk home from bars.

 

[MVP]

Here's my tip:

Ignore the dating scene

Don't go to clubs, don't use online dating sites, stop focusing on getting it together with a woman.
Live your life, be social, participate in various clubs/communities and meet people that you have stuff in common with, a foundation to actually start a relationship.

Eventually, you might hit it off with a friendly male/female, and that person might end up your mate.

 

[Antagon]

If I get to piss easily on the walk home from bars.

Now you're asking for a lot

 

[Howard Ballou]

I don't think it's wallowing when girls are the way they are. Only if you could step in the shoes of some of these guys. Man.......

You're in the same shoes as the rest of us. Some of us just choose to walk.