Dating-Age |OT3| Positivity, Confidence, and Not Being a "Nice" Guy

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She posted a pic in the weightloss thread, she looks just fine. The issue is her admittedly stand-offish personality. Warm up! :)

IF she just recently lost a bunch of weight I guess that would explain the self esteem issues, then. They can be hard to overcome after a lifetime of being overweight.
 
Yeah Leeness is damn cute, so maybe she just needs a more positive outlook about guys/dating and some higher self-esteem/confidence.

Yeah Im saying this as a genralization but nobody wants to hang out with overly negative people.
I have a friend of a friend who is litrally a mobile black hole, sucking out the enjoyment of everything by being so negative to the point I try to avoid her now as its just too damn depressing.
 
To save everyone the time trying to find pics of Leeness (I felt soo creepy)
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=37982319&postcount=3585
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=36725355&postcount=2150

I have no idea what you are talking about. You are attractive as fuck (at least to me) Like what the poster above said, maybe have someone style your hair and that would put you well over the edge of hotness. Really like the smile.

You're pretty damn cute when it comes to the face. The people who know me on Gaf (i.e. Tinychat) will support that I am a stickler for appearances. So, when I say you're attractive, it's the bloody truth. Like Hawk mentioned, killer smile.
 
Hey guys, is Leeness good looking?!

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Uh, this thread has taken a turn on the interesting side haha. I hope you lot have not made her feel uneasy now when she posts in here :lol:
 
You know in Family Guy, when Meg would ask guys out and they'd either shoot themselves or set themselves on fire to avoid her? Less drastic version of that, when I ask guys out. They looked like they wanted to die or stab themselves in the face.

I dunno, I'd always make "first" friends when starting school and they'd abandon me and I'd find my real friends. I still speak to my good friends from elementary, and my good high school friends are my world. This is just how I am. I hate myself and I can't stop. I dunno. I had guys in high school call me fat to my face, ugly to my face. But that's high school, people are assholes.

I've only gone out with one guy, who was perfectly nice, but he didn't want to go on a second. So. One date. lol. Otherwise, OKC guys just message me with "HEY LETS MEET FOR SEX?!?!?" and that's that. No one is particularly nice or normal that I've met on there. But OKC is the only place that men even want to talk to me, so... I have the option of eternal loneliness or meet a strange internet man for a one night stand, cause I guess that's all I'm good for lol. I dunno anymore.

</tl;dr, sorry.>


Wait, guys really are calling you ugly, Leeness? I think the problem's on their end, not yours. You're definitely not.

The one thing I've also learned about OKC (from both talking to girls on there and through the fun of Devo's mod postings from there) is that there's a ton of rotten eggs on most dating sites, OKC included, and you just have to not worry about it and keep trucking. I can tell you I have the same exact problem as you do except with the roles reversed (I was at one point too terrified to talk to girls because I was 100 percent sure they would quickly run away), and the best solution I've found to kind of squelching the issue is to just not worry. There are people out there who may judge you as being not this or not that, and it is their loss not to have you around, not the other way around.

You won't be lonely forever. It may take some time, but you'll eventually find someone who likes you for who you are in all facets of your life. I used to think it was somewhat impossible for me to ever find people who even found me interesting, but I've had some mild success over the past 6-7 months, even though I'm still single. It's been a bit of a confidence booster to actually get people to talk with me (despite the fact I usually think I'm an average-looking guy whose life is a bit boring because he's stuck in the middle of nowhere), but there's likely someone out there who's your match that you just haven't met yet. :)
 
To save everyone the time trying to find pics of Leeness (I felt soo creepy)
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=37982319&postcount=3585
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=36725355&postcount=2150

I have no idea what you are talking about. You are attractive as fuck (at least to me) Like what the poster above said, maybe have someone style your hair and that would put you well over the edge of hotness. Really like the smile.
Wtf Leeness, after all that this is what you look like? I approach and flirt with cute girls like you all the time, just lighten up.
 
I'm curious to see what Leeness says when she gets in here :Lol

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That being said, to the Leeness's in here. You guys/gals are too hard on yourselves. A part of you knows that you're nothing bad to look at, that you're not bad company to be around - so cling onto that, reinforce that idea. Don't just give in and assume that "I guess I am ugly and boring then". The same way some average looking not that interesting guy can land hottie after hottie almost inexplicably, a good looking guy or girl who is a lot of fun can miss out on opportunity after opportunity.

The point is not to blame yourself or assume the worst, because that just feeds into a cycle of perpetual misery where you start to create your own self-fulfilling prophecy. Smile, you're good looking and fun people - it may take a while and it may take some effort, but it'll pay off eventually as long as you don't let the shitty hand you've been dealt so far wear you down.
 
I once briefly dated a really attractive, cute girl who was so socially awkward it was offensive (so it didn't work out).

But every now and again those girls do exist: really pretty people who are just horrible in social settings, or don't know how to behave without making other people feel really awkward.

Could be that.
 
I need more friends... :/

I felt so alone tonight (friend left early), and there's a part of me which thinks I should just text my "ex" to see if she wants to go out soon.

I ended it with her for a few reasons (we were good friends beforehand, and she's also a Christian), but I did enjoy the few dates we had.

I just hate feeling like this.

Shit man, seeing this makes me want to come down and just hang out with you and make you feel more happy with life and stuff. You know, I always visit kent and pass by London via st panceras (I live in leicester) so if you PM me I am more than happy to talk to you matey and meet up sometime :) I'll turn your attitude around.
I'm up for that man! :)
 
I'm uncharismatic and ugly, FML.

Well one of those you can fix, and the other won't matter much when you do.

And by "fix", I don't mean you have to become someone different. You can be introverted yet confident and not socially awkward. It just takes practice.

A lot of people make mistakes in social situations, and then call it quits to avoid the pain again. But then they don't get any better. If you learn to be more charismatic, you can attract people that are much more physically attractive than you are.

Also, don't assume that attractive people are only attracted to physical characteristics.
 
You know in Family Guy, when Meg would ask guys out and they'd either shoot themselves or set themselves on fire to avoid her? Less drastic version of that, when I ask guys out. They looked like they wanted to die or stab themselves in the face.

I dunno, I'd always make "first" friends when starting school and they'd abandon me and I'd find my real friends. I still speak to my good friends from elementary, and my good high school friends are my world. This is just how I am. I hate myself and I can't stop. I dunno. I had guys in high school call me fat to my face, ugly to my face. But that's high school, people are assholes.

I've only gone out with one guy, who was perfectly nice, but he didn't want to go on a second. So. One date. lol. Otherwise, OKC guys just message me with "HEY LETS MEET FOR SEX?!?!?" and that's that. No one is particularly nice or normal that I've met on there. But OKC is the only place that men even want to talk to me, so... I have the option of eternal loneliness or meet a strange internet man for a one night stand, cause I guess that's all I'm good for lol. I dunno anymore.

</tl;dr, sorry.>


man thats really bumming me out. all those posts on this site (and prolly the following half-dozen) should give you at least a bit well deserved ego-boost. you're definetly cute.
I don't really know where to blame your misfortune. Maybe the city / part of the city is just full of jerks.
One thing i can say from my experience is that everything changed for me in college and i mean i became a whole different person. grown up in one of the shittiest towns in germany and went to a nice one to study three years ago. Cant really guess your age but if you're near college / starting: be confident, thers a very high chance that things will get different. If not, blame me for culturally totally miscomparing the german college experience with the american.
Other than that, go out. Again, if your starting college / already in / planing: take as many cultural events / parties as your busy schedule allows. You'll gather friends like a katamari.
Now if i just reverse the way i flirt all you have to do is make eye contact and re-smile. Any sane guy will start talking to you. There is nothing more attractive in a girl like a cute smile and nice eyes and you own the hardware so use it :)
 
Well one of those you can fix, and the other won't matter much when you do.

And by "fix", I don't mean you have to become someone different. You can be introverted yet confident and not socially awkward. It just takes practice.

A lot of people make mistakes in social situations, and then call it quits to avoid the pain again. But then they don't get any better. If you learn to be more charismatic, you can attract people that are much more physically attractive than you are.

Also, don't assume that attractive people are only attracted to physical characteristics.

I'm being hyperbolic, but I appreciate the advice. I just need to lose weight and get out more once I feel like going out...right now I'm being real reclusive like on purpose. Girls tell me they love my smile and I'm bright enough to hold a good conversation. I'm giving myself a year to hit the gym, get into a better shape and then sort of hit the dating scene.
 
I once briefly dated a really attractive, cute girl who was so socially awkward it was offensive (so it didn't work out).

But every now and again those girls do exist: really pretty people who are just horrible in social settings, or don't know how to behave without making other people feel really awkward.

Could be that.

Also depending on your location some people are just shallow jerks who expect women or men to act in certain ways, dress certain ways and have certain personality types. I didn't have the best luck in high school due to not being the typical girly girl or pom pom cheerleader. Leeness might be consistently running into the kind of guy who is stuck on high school mode (there are woman who do this too) and expects a certain kind of girl. I didn't really have much luck in high school dating other high schoolers, older guys were usually more interested in a low maintenance kind of gal. What I would suggest Leeness do is find a pattern, figure out where she's meeting this kind of guy and just stop trying to find relationships among those groups.
 
There is this super cute girl that works at a BBQ joint down the road from my work. Every time I see her on my break like once a week, I'm tempted to tell her how cute she is and how she should let me take her out for coffee. She just works behind the counter but it still seems weird though.
 
There is this super cute girl that works at a BBQ joint down the road from my work. Every time I see her on my break like once a week, I'm tempted to tell her how cute she is and how she should let me take her out for coffee. She just works behind the counter but it still seems weird though.

go for the long term plan. if your a regular she should recognize you. just plan to talk to her for a couple of minutes. if shes not having any customers talk her up and you can continue each week. id go for a 4 week plan and ask her out.
 
Yeah Leeness is a cutie

I'd post my photo because I feel the same way she does about herself, but I'd rather not draw attention away from this appreciation station :p
 
go for the long term plan. if your a regular she should recognize you. just plan to talk to her for a couple of minutes. if shes not having any customers talk her up and you can continue each week. id go for a 4 week plan and ask her out.

That's just difficult to do because she seems to be constantly doing stuff. I'm generally there while it's a bit busy due to lunch. I'll probably try to take a break a bit later to give it a shot.
 
hawkshockey11 posts links to pics of Leeness, thread derailed to how attractive she is.

Never say anything about yourself that you don't want to be true.

Very true. People tend to associate what you say about yourself with you... especially the negative stuff.
 
Yeah Leeness is a cutie

I'd post my photo because I feel the same way she does about herself, but I'd rather not draw attention away from this appreciation station :p

haha. i think you'd do her a favour. when she sees all those nice posts she will feel bad to not be able to reply to them all.
 
I didn't click on Leeness pics because I prefer getting to know women without looking at their picture, instead of judging based on physical looks. From her posts she's a very beautiful young woman I think, perhaps the most beautiful I've read in years.

So yea, just my two cents ^o^
 
I didn't click on Leeness pics because I prefer getting to know women without looking at their picture, instead of judging based on physical looks. From her posts she's a very beautiful young woman I think, perhaps the most beautiful I've read in years.

So yea, just my two cents ^o^

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