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I'm in need for some simple advise. I'm in the class of this girl, we have been getting closer as the time passes - as I started sitting next to her - and she has, recently, hinted as having feelings for me. For example, a few days ago, I joked saying that her and a colleague of mine were going to mary, because she always laugh with his jokes (or almost always) and she said something like "I also laugh to your jokes. Maybe I like you better." Also, the other day, we were taking a coffee with some friends and a dude said "You guys are going to mary some day.", and me and her went really quiet and there was some moments after of really awkward and strange behavior and "atmosphere" going on.

Do you guys think that there's something? What should I do right now?
 
He sounds more like someone that needs to get out there and get grounded to reality by actually & connecting talking to people. That's my take anyways.

Not a girl yet, though.

I'm in need for some simple advise. I'm in the class of this girl, we have been getting closer as the time passes - as I started sitting next to her - and she has, recently, hinted as having feelings for me. For example, a few days ago, I joked saying that her and a colleague of mine were going to mary, because she always laugh with his jokes (or almost always) and she said something like "I also laugh to your jokes. Maybe I like you better." Also, the other day, we were taking a coffee with some friends and a dude said "You guys are going to mary some day.", and me and her went really quiet and there was some moments after of really awkward and strange behavior and "atmosphere" going on.

Do you guys think that there's something? What should I do right now?

Make moves, son.
 
Are girls always this scared?

We've been talking since last night and today I straight up asked her out. She responded by saying she wasn't really sure, I thought it was game over but stepped up and kept talking instead of QQing. Kept her laughing and interested in what I had planned, she said she was nervous because she's never gone out with a guy before or done anything with one. OT which I said "That's something else we have in common" and she continued laughing. I don't know what the fuck happened but I kept pulling out all these quips that I usually do with my guy friends and just "acted like myself" as I was getting a little frustrated. She finally relented and said that it did sound like a nice day and then tried to bail again by mentioning a movie she was watching. But I persisted gently and kept her laughing. But now I'm just kind of indifferent I suppose as I didn't want to come off way too strong but also didn't want to seem weak or let her squirm out of it, lol.

So I just told her to relax and joked around some more with her about the date. I don't even. She sounds really interested and our conversation was really hilarious in retrospect, but now I'm just wondering what the hell she's going to say when she gets back to me.

It's weird though. Before I would have gotten really upset and felt bad if I girl just said "Not sure". But I think those past experiences have really helped here. because I'm quite cool actually and I'll be disappointed if she says no, but I won't get all pissy about it either. One thing I can say(With barely any experience) is that the whole mantra of getting a girl to laugh is really important. I saved the conversation so many times by getting her to laugh and feel comfortable. People always tell me that I'm a funny person, but when I talk/talked to girls, I'd always try and be some suave, silent person; which I'm not. You can't talk to someone intimately if you're pretending to be someone else.

Anyway. I did the right thing by giving her some space right? Good lord I hope she says yes though!

Edit: I think I know why she feels this way. I'm just a wee bit older than her but I'm a pretty big guy. She probably feels that I'm all experienced and all that stuff. I don't want to, and won't tell her that right away though because I honestly don't even view her in a sexual manner yet. I barely know here! Maybe it's the "Guys just want sex" thing she's freaking out about.
 
I'm in need for some simple advise. I'm in the class of this girl, we have been getting closer as the time passes - as I started sitting next to her - and she has, recently, hinted as having feelings for me. For example, a few days ago, I joked saying that her and a colleague of mine were going to mary, because she always laugh with his jokes (or almost always) and she said something like "I also laugh to your jokes. Maybe I like you better." Also, the other day, we were taking a coffee with some friends and a dude said "You guys are going to mary some day.", and me and her went really quiet and there was some moments after of really awkward and strange behavior and "atmosphere" going on.

Do you guys think that there's something? What should I do right now?
Definitely make moves, son. She is into you.

CrushDance: Yeah don't push it any more than you have. Let her come to you by living an interesting life on your own that she would want to be a part of.
 
Are girls always this scared?

We've been talking since last night and today I straight up asked her out. She responded by saying she wasn't really sure, I thought it was game over but stepped up and kept talking instead of QQing. Kept her laughing and interested in what I had planned, she said she was nervous because she's never gone out with a guy before or done anything with one. OT which I said "That's something else we have in common" and she continued laughing. I don't know what the fuck happened but I kept pulling out all these quips that I usually do with my guy friends and just "acted like myself" as I was getting a little frustrated. She finally relented and said that it did sound like a nice day and then tried to bail again by mentioning a movie she was watching. But I persisted gently and kept her laughing. But now I'm just kind of indifferent I suppose as I didn't want to come off way too strong but also didn't want to seem weak or let her squirm out of it, lol.

So I just told her to relax and joked around some more with her about the date. I don't even. She sounds really interested and our conversation was really hilarious in retrospect, but now I'm just wondering what the hell she's going to say when she gets back to me.

It's weird though. Before I would have gotten really upset and felt bad if I girl just said "Not sure". But I think those past experiences have really helped here. because I'm quite cool actually and I'll be disappointed if she says no, but I won't get all pissy about it either. One thing I can say(With barely any experience) is that the whole mantra of getting a girl to laugh is really important. I saved the conversation so many times by getting her to laugh and feel comfortable. People always tell me that I'm a funny person, but when I talk/talked to girls, I'd always try and be some suave, silent person; which I'm not. You can't talk to someone intimately if you're pretending to be someone else.

Anyway. I did the right thing by giving her some space right? Good lord I hope she says yes though!

Edit: I think I know why she feels this way. I'm just a wee bit older than her but I'm a pretty big guy. She probably feels that I'm all experienced and all that stuff. I don't want to, and won't tell her that right away though because I honestly don't even view her in a sexual manner yet. I barely know here! Maybe it's the "Guys just want sex" thing she's freaking out about.

Definitely not, how old is she? I've struggled with some shyer girls, I don't think you're going to be able to make much progress (not you, but anyone). People have to be brave enough to take chances to get what they want.
 
Are girls always this scared?

We've been talking since last night and today I straight up asked her out. She responded by saying she wasn't really sure, I thought it was game over but stepped up and kept talking instead of QQing. Kept her laughing and interested in what I had planned, she said she was nervous because she's never gone out with a guy before or done anything with one. OT which I said "That's something else we have in common" and she continued laughing. I don't know what the fuck happened but I kept pulling out all these quips that I usually do with my guy friends and just "acted like myself" as I was getting a little frustrated. She finally relented and said that it did sound like a nice day and then tried to bail again by mentioning a movie she was watching. But I persisted gently and kept her laughing. But now I'm just kind of indifferent I suppose as I didn't want to come off way too strong but also didn't want to seem weak or let her squirm out of it, lol.

So I just told her to relax and joked around some more with her about the date. I don't even. She sounds really interested and our conversation was really hilarious in retrospect, but now I'm just wondering what the hell she's going to say when she gets back to me.

It's weird though. Before I would have gotten really upset and felt bad if I girl just said "Not sure". But I think those past experiences have really helped here. because I'm quite cool actually and I'll be disappointed if she says no, but I won't get all pissy about it either. One thing I can say(With barely any experience) is that the whole mantra of getting a girl to laugh is really important. I saved the conversation so many times by getting her to laugh and feel comfortable. People always tell me that I'm a funny person, but when I talk/talked to girls, I'd always try and be some suave, silent person; which I'm not. You can't talk to someone intimately if you're pretending to be someone else.

Anyway. I did the right thing by giving her some space right? Good lord I hope she says yes though!

Edit: I think I know why she feels this way. I'm just a wee bit older than her but I'm a pretty big guy. She probably feels that I'm all experienced and all that stuff. I don't want to, and won't tell her that right away though because I honestly don't even view her in a sexual manner yet. I barely know here! Maybe it's the "Guys just want sex" thing she's freaking out about.

IMO this is the point where you need to decide: do you want a girl like this? She may be a nice person and what not, but if she has shyness issues, they won't go away forever even once she's comfortable with you. What will happen when you are dating and you decide to go to an outing with her and your friends she never met? Will she freak out and not want to go since she doesn't know them, etc. etc...

Personally, I'm not a fan of shy girls. I like girls that take charge and don't have a problem with making decisions. Already dated some shy girls where it was nothing but me pushing for decisions to be made and choosing what to do every day. Got old fast.

My current gf has no problem telling me what she thinks or what she wants. I love it lol.
 
I'm in need for some simple advise. I'm in the class of this girl, we have been getting closer as the time passes - as I started sitting next to her - and she has, recently, hinted as having feelings for me. For example, a few days ago, I joked saying that her and a colleague of mine were going to mary, because she always laugh with his jokes (or almost always) and she said something like "I also laugh to your jokes. Maybe I like you better." Also, the other day, we were taking a coffee with some friends and a dude said "You guys are going to mary some day.", and me and her went really quiet and there was some moments after of really awkward and strange behavior and "atmosphere" going on.

Do you guys think that there's something? What should I do right now?

Should have moved yesterday. Doesn't matter. Do it now.
 
IMO this is the point where you need to decide: do you want a girl like this? She may be a nice person and what not, but if she has shyness issues, they won't go away forever even once she's comfortable with you. What will happen when you are dating and you decide to go to an outing with her and your friends she never met? Will she freak out and not want to go since she doesn't know them, etc. etc...

Personally, I'm not a fan of shy girls. I like girls that take charge and don't have a problem with making decisions. Already dated some shy girls where it was nothing but me pushing for decisions to be made and choosing what to do every day. Got old fast.

My current gf has no problem telling me what she thinks or what she wants. I love it lol.

I mean...if you like the challenge...but be prepared to fail.
 
Definitely not, how old is she? I've struggled with some shyer girls, I don't think you're going to be able to make much progress (not you, but anyone). People have to be brave enough to take chances to get what they want.

She's 22 and I'm 24. It's not even a notable difference in age, but it's still frustrating like you and other posters have said. I didn't really say anything even slightly pushy but I wanted too because her "Maybes" were grating to deal with. And yeah, I don't think that's something I could deal with in the long run; even if it does become my first relationship and it's all lovey dovey stuff. I mean I'm not into the "I'm a man hurrr" crap. No, I want her to make decisions and voice her opinions just as much as I do/will. Not just do whatever I tell her or wait to be told something.

Edit: Goddamn do I now see how I probably looked to a lot of women with my shyness and doubt. Argh.
 
She's 22 and I'm 24. It's not even a notable difference in age, but it's still frustrating like you and other posters have said. I didn't really say anything even slightly pushy but I wanted too because her "Maybes" were grating to deal with. And yeah, I don't think that's something I could deal with in the long run; even if it does become my first relationship and it's all lovey dovey stuff. I mean I'm not into the "I'm a man hurrr" crap. No, I want her to make decisions and voice her opinions just as much as I do/will. Not just do whatever I tell her or wait to be told something.

22 to 24? Not a big deal and thats not what she is concerned about. (IMO).
 
i wouldn't say shes a lost cause. that seems harsh. some girls are just shy or can be intimidated by intensity. its out there, just let her think about it and ask again in like a week if not.
 
22 to 24? Not a big deal and thats not what she is concerned about. (IMO).

Agreed. I don't want to get into the "I wonder what she's thinking" mindset because it's not healthy, and just sets one up for heartache when imagining what you want to happen and then dealing with reality. I don't know what the heck her problem is! I'm a virgin too, big deal. I'm not looking for sex and or expecting it from her any-time soon. It's just a date.! :X

i wouldn't say shes a lost cause. that seems harsh. some girls are just shy or can be intimidated by intensity. its out there, just let her think about it and ask again in like a week if not.
Yeah. That's what I was thinking. I can play it off in a humorous way too. I'm in no rush to get into a relationship anyway so it's not a big deal. If she just said Yes or No, I could deal and pursue other interests. I don't like the waiting game.
 
Crush,

Good luck to you, but be careful...there is persistent and then there is creepy. Not saying you are in anyway crowding that line yet, but ya can't keep on asking and she keeps on saying no.

She may be shy, timid, etc...but she really could not be interested in "dating" you.
 
Crush,

Good luck to you, but be careful...there is persistent and then there is creepy. Not saying you are in anyway crowding that line yet, but ya can't keep on asking and she keeps on saying no.

She may be shy, timid, etc...but she really could not be interested in "dating" you.

True, true. That's why I played it very carefully. She hasn't refused just been nervous and shy really. No means no, I've got that on lock.
 
i wouldn't say shes a lost cause. that seems harsh. some girls are just shy or can be intimidated by intensity. its out there, just let her think about it and ask again in like a week if not.

I mean...if you like the challenge...but be prepared to fail.

Yeah, everyone is different in their approach to dating.

I'm only 23 but I've already reached the point in my life where I decided I won't invest time in a girl if it's a one-way street and I'm doing all the work. That just isn't appealing to me.

But yes, if you like that challenge I suppose go for it.
 
Honestly that's a lot of pressure and expectation for a first date (though certain girls may appreciate it). If there's any kind of activity you enjoy that could also work as a 2-person thing, that could be good. There's always coffee dates. In the end the main thing is to just ask. Don't fluff it up, don't wait for the perfect moment or try to think of the perfect words. If she is into you, she'll be happy you're just asking her out, as long as you do it securely and assertively. And if she's not, you haven't made it too big of a deal, so it's easier to go forward.
 
I'm in need for some simple advise. I'm in the class of this girl, we have been getting closer as the time passes - as I started sitting next to her - and she has, recently, hinted as having feelings for me. For example, a few days ago, I joked saying that her and a colleague of mine were going to mary, because she always laugh with his jokes (or almost always) and she said something like "I also laugh to your jokes. Maybe I like you better." Also, the other day, we were taking a coffee with some friends and a dude said "You guys are going to mary some day.", and me and her went really quiet and there was some moments after of really awkward and strange behavior and "atmosphere" going on.

Do you guys think that there's something? What should I do right now?

lol what's with everyone in your college joking about people getting married? :P

Ask her if she wants to go to lunch with you between classes or something. Or after school. Make it clear you're just inviting her though, so it doesn't seem open to other friends.
 
Honestly that's a lot of pressure and expectation for a first date (though certain girls may appreciate it). If there's any kind of activity you enjoy that could also work as a 2-person thing, that could be good. There's always coffee dates. In the end the main thing is to just ask. Don't fluff it up, don't wait for the perfect moment or try to think of the perfect words. If she is into you, she'll be happy you're just asking her out, as long as you do it securely and assertively. And if she's not, you haven't made it too big of a deal, so it's easier to go forward.

A coffee date seems a simple and nice idea in this case. I'm just not sure how I would approach her while on the date.
 
Just had my first kiss. I told her I was a little shy and so desperately wanted to hold her hand. We kept talking and I walked her home. I said goodnight and she just pulled me in and kissed me. OMG. It was SO GOOD! Raging boner f m l.
 
Just had my first kiss. I told her I was a little shy and so desperately wanted to hold her hand. We kept talking and I walked her home. I said goodnight and she just pulled me in and kissed me. OMG. It was SO GOOD! Raging boner f m l.
Congratulations! I'm really happy for you. You must be feeling really great.
 
:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

She went from "Maybe" to my last text pushing over apparently with my humour, lol. I said "I'll pick you up at X" and she said "No. I'll just take a taxi since I barely know you." I just laughed it off and told her it was fine and that I could understand. Through the enitre thing I always made sure to do things the way she wanted and never said "Can I? Should we?" or anything like that. But rather "I will", "How about" etc. Always giving her room to say no, but never pressuring her or coming off as controlling.

We spent 8 and a half hours together! 8. freaking 5! I told her we could watch a movie if she felt more comfortable that way and she agreed. So I met up with her there and tried to hug her. She bailed out and shook my hand. I was like: What the DUCK?! But continued joking and making her laugh. We went to the theatre and she grabbed her purse to buy tickets. I pulled the tickets from behind her as I'd had my arm around her shoulder and flashed them infront of her. She was flabbergasted and covered her mouth going: "You didn't!" I thought I'd fucked up or something but she just blushed brightly and thanked me. We went to the concession and she offered to pay since I'd gotten the tickets, I jokingly told her that I was her chaperone to make sure nothing bad happened since she was so afraid and payed. It was so stupid but we both kept laughing all the way in. Throughout the movie she offered me popcorn, etc and we shared our stuff.

Finally at the end I gushed about Batman and she quipped whether I was in love with him and if she should bother going on with me. I told her I was the damn dark knight in colour. A joke that I imemdiately regretted and felt stupid saying, but she found funny after asking me whether she could laugh or not. So then we went and sat down for a while and got some coffee, talked for about two hours and as it was getting late. I suggessted and didn't ask, that I drive her home. She said "I'd love that!" comapred to her earlier worries about me picking her up. We went in and she said she was a little hungry, I was too and so we grabbed some food. She offered to pay yet again and this time I let her since I believe in being equal and also because I wanted to let her personality come through. We went back in the car and I asked her if she wanted to eat in there or somewhere else. She thought I was tlaking about taking her home and I just said "No! I'm just like you, you might not believe it; but I am. I'm in no rush. I just want to get to know you." She turned beet red and said "Nobodies ever said something like that to me before". I hugged her and held her for a moment before saying "Well somethings rushing now though" and she pushed me away giggling.

We ended up in a random park and ate in the middle of the night. It was so surreal. She commented on how beautiful it was at night and I agreed. We just stared at each other and smiled before finishing up. I asked her where she lived and she said not far. She then said: "Why don't you walk me home? I'd like that." I wanted to ask her soooo bad, but was too afraid. I blurted out a quick "Sure!" and we walked in the night. At this point eveyrthing was firing to hold her hand but I was all "OH shit Crush! Don't be too pushy man!" and didn't. As we walked I asked her if she's ever been on a date and she said yes. She asked me if I had and I said no. Then out of nowhere she just stopped and said "Why?! You're such a handsome and nice guy. I thought you...OMG! did you mean...in the car earlier?!" To which I just shrugged thinking that I'd blown it. She just broke into laughter and said that I'd meant that I was like her in my shyness and not...you know...being a virgin and all. Good lord was that weight taken off my shoulders!

We got to her house and her mother and sister were still awake. She asked if I wanted to meet them and I declined since I was so damn nerbous still and her mother looked like a BOSS from the kitchen window. At this point I said goodnight and it began to rain lightly. Damn I did everything to fight this lame ass boner of mine and turned to walk away. She grabbed my arm and gave me the most ludcrious smile EVER before saying: "I have been on dates before. But no guy has ever made me feel so comfortable" and kissed me. It was so sudden that I didn't even think it had just happened. I muttered "I..I've never done that before either" and she pulled me in real freaking tight and kissed me again. I went stupid. Like for a moment no thought actually occurred in my brain. She said "Are you okay?" and I realised that it was starting to rain hard. We laughed about it and quickly said goodnight before she ran inside.

I don't know what the fuck just happened today. How we went from "Maybe" to om nom nom. Holy shit. I'm not even happy right now. I'm just in a state of shock. How she was nervous to jokingly calling me her "Dark knight" in 8 hours is wow worthy. The time just seemed as if someone clicked their fingers.
 
:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

She went from "Maybe" to my last text pushing over apparently with my humour, lol. I said "I'll pick you up at X" and she said "No. I'll just take a taxi since I barely know you." I just laughed it off and told her it was fine and that I could understand. Through the enitre thing I always made sure to do things the way she wanted and never said "Can I? Should we?" or anything like that. But rather "I will", "How about" etc. Always giving her room to say no, but never pressuring her or coming off as controlling.

We spent 8 and a half hours together! 8. freaking 5! I told her we could watch a movie if she felt more comfortable that way and she agreed. So I met up with her there and tried to hug her. She bailed out and shook my hand. I was like: What the DUCK?! But continued joking and making her laugh. We went to the theatre and she grabbed her purse to buy tickets. I pulled the tickets from behind her as I'd had my arm around her shoulder and flashed them infront of her. She was flabbergasted and covered her mouth going: "You didn't!" I thought I'd fucked up or something but she just blushed brightly and thanked me. We went to the concession and she offered to pay since I'd gotten the tickets, I jokingly told her that I was her chaperone to make sure nothing bad happened since she was so afraid and payed. It was so stupid but we both kept laughing all the way in. Throughout the movie she offered me popcorn, etc and we shared our stuff.

Finally at the end I gushed about Batman and she quipped whether I was in love with him and if she should bother going on with me. I told her I was the damn dark knight in colour. A joke that I imemdiately regretted and felt stupid saying, but she found funny after asking me whether she could laugh or not. So then we went and sat down for a while and got some coffee, talked for about two hours and as it was getting late. I suggessted and didn't ask, that I drive her home. She said "I'd love that!" comapred to her earlier worries about me picking her up. We went in and she said she was a little hungry, I was too and so we grabbed some food. She offered to pay yet again and this time I let her since I believe in being equal and also because I wanted to let her personality come through. We went back in the car and I asked her if she wanted to eat in there or somewhere else. She thought I was tlaking about taking her home and I just said "No! I'm just like you, you might not believe it; but I am. I'm in no rush. I just want to get to know you." She turned beet red and said "Nobodies ever said something like that to me before". I hugged her and held her for a moment before saying "Well somethings rushing now though" and she pushed me away giggling.

We ended up in a random park and ate in the middle of the night. It was so surreal. She commented on how beautiful it was at night and I agreed. We just stared at each other and smiled before finishing up. I asked her where she lived and she said not far. She then said: "Why don't you walk me home? I'd like that." I wanted to ask her soooo bad, but was too afraid. I blurted out a quick "Sure!" and we walked in the night. At this point eveyrthing was firing to hold her hand but I was all "OH shit Crush! Don't be too pushy man!" and didn't. As we walked I asked her if she's ever been on a date and she said yes. She asked me if I had and I said no. Then out of nowhere she just stopped and said "Why?! You're such a handsome and nice guy. I thought you...OMG! did you mean...in the car earlier?!" To which I just shrugged thinking that I'd blown it. She just broke into laughter and said that I'd meant that I was like her in my shyness and not...you know...being a virgin and all. Good lord was that weight taken off my shoulders!

We got to her house and her mother and sister were still awake. She asked if I wanted to meet them and I declined since I was so damn nerbous still and her mother looked like a BOSS from the kitchen window. At this point I said goodnight and it began to rain lightly. Damn I did everything to fight this lame ass boner of mine and turned to walk away. She grabbed my arm and gave me the most ludcrious smile EVER before saying: "I have been on dates before. But no guy has ever made me feel so comfortable" and kissed me. It was so sudden that I didn't even think it had just happened. I muttered "I..I've never done that before either" and she pulled me in real freaking tight and kissed me again. I went stupid. Like for a moment no thought actually occurred in my brain. She said "Are you okay?" and I realised that it was starting to rain hard. We laughed about it and quickly said goodnight before she ran inside.

I don't know what the fuck just happened today. How we went from "Maybe" to om nom nom. Holy shit. I'm not even happy right now. I'm just in a state of shock. How she was nervous to jokingly calling me her "Dark knight" in 8 hours is wow worthy. The time just seemed as if someone clicked their fingers.

You know what to do. Ask her to move in with you. ;)
 
Just had my first kiss. I told her I was a little shy and so desperately wanted to hold her hand. We kept talking and I walked her home. I said goodnight and she just pulled me in and kissed me. OMG. It was SO GOOD! Raging boner f m l.

Nice. I hope to get to that point someday, but the way my teeth look, I get self concious about how they look and generally end up avoiding anyone getting near my face :/
 
Nice. I hope to get to that point someday, but the way my teeth look, I get self concious about how they look and generally end up avoiding anyone getting near my face :/

Bro. Bro! I have a gap in my teeth that I'm hoping to get fixed in the future. This girl is way amazing and she never even mentioned it once. She approached me and she kissed me. If they don't care, it's nothing to worry about.
 
:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

She went from "Maybe" to my last text pushing over apparently with my humour, lol. I said "I'll pick you up at X" and she said "No. I'll just take a taxi since I barely know you." I just laughed it off and told her it was fine and that I could understand. Through the enitre thing I always made sure to do things the way she wanted and never said "Can I? Should we?" or anything like that. But rather "I will", "How about" etc. Always giving her room to say no, but never pressuring her or coming off as controlling.

We spent 8 and a half hours together! 8. freaking 5! I told her we could watch a movie if she felt more comfortable that way and she agreed. So I met up with her there and tried to hug her. She bailed out and shook my hand. I was like: What the DUCK?! But continued joking and making her laugh. We went to the theatre and she grabbed her purse to buy tickets. I pulled the tickets from behind her as I'd had my arm around her shoulder and flashed them infront of her. She was flabbergasted and covered her mouth going: "You didn't!" I thought I'd fucked up or something but she just blushed brightly and thanked me. We went to the concession and she offered to pay since I'd gotten the tickets, I jokingly told her that I was her chaperone to make sure nothing bad happened since she was so afraid and payed. It was so stupid but we both kept laughing all the way in. Throughout the movie she offered me popcorn, etc and we shared our stuff.

Finally at the end I gushed about Batman and she quipped whether I was in love with him and if she should bother going on with me. I told her I was the damn dark knight in colour. A joke that I imemdiately regretted and felt stupid saying, but she found funny after asking me whether she could laugh or not. So then we went and sat down for a while and got some coffee, talked for about two hours and as it was getting late. I suggessted and didn't ask, that I drive her home. She said "I'd love that!" comapred to her earlier worries about me picking her up. We went in and she said she was a little hungry, I was too and so we grabbed some food. She offered to pay yet again and this time I let her since I believe in being equal and also because I wanted to let her personality come through. We went back in the car and I asked her if she wanted to eat in there or somewhere else. She thought I was tlaking about taking her home and I just said "No! I'm just like you, you might not believe it; but I am. I'm in no rush. I just want to get to know you." She turned beet red and said "Nobodies ever said something like that to me before". I hugged her and held her for a moment before saying "Well somethings rushing now though" and she pushed me away giggling.

We ended up in a random park and ate in the middle of the night. It was so surreal. She commented on how beautiful it was at night and I agreed. We just stared at each other and smiled before finishing up. I asked her where she lived and she said not far. She then said: "Why don't you walk me home? I'd like that." I wanted to ask her soooo bad, but was too afraid. I blurted out a quick "Sure!" and we walked in the night. At this point eveyrthing was firing to hold her hand but I was all "OH shit Crush! Don't be too pushy man!" and didn't. As we walked I asked her if she's ever been on a date and she said yes. She asked me if I had and I said no. Then out of nowhere she just stopped and said "Why?! You're such a handsome and nice guy. I thought you...OMG! did you mean...in the car earlier?!" To which I just shrugged thinking that I'd blown it. She just broke into laughter and said that I'd meant that I was like her in my shyness and not...you know...being a virgin and all. Good lord was that weight taken off my shoulders!

We got to her house and her mother and sister were still awake. She asked if I wanted to meet them and I declined since I was so damn nerbous still and her mother looked like a BOSS from the kitchen window. At this point I said goodnight and it began to rain lightly. Damn I did everything to fight this lame ass boner of mine and turned to walk away. She grabbed my arm and gave me the most ludcrious smile EVER before saying: "I have been on dates before. But no guy has ever made me feel so comfortable" and kissed me. It was so sudden that I didn't even think it had just happened. I muttered "I..I've never done that before either" and she pulled me in real freaking tight and kissed me again. I went stupid. Like for a moment no thought actually occurred in my brain. She said "Are you okay?" and I realised that it was starting to rain hard. We laughed about it and quickly said goodnight before she ran inside.

I don't know what the fuck just happened today. How we went from "Maybe" to om nom nom. Holy shit. I'm not even happy right now. I'm just in a state of shock. How she was nervous to jokingly calling me her "Dark knight" in 8 hours is wow worthy. The time just seemed as if someone clicked their fingers.
Nailed it. I'm glad to see someone have success here!

Everyone having trouble with dating: take note of this dude's confidence. He had some thoughts in his head that would have normally ruined it, but he kept strong and everyone is happy. Even the insecurities he did admit seem to have been done as charming as he could.
 
Bro. Bro! I have a gap in my teeth that I'm hoping to get fixed in the future. This girl is way amazing and she never even mentioned it once. She approached me and she kissed me. If they don't care, it's nothing to worry about.

Oh how I wish it was a gap. Let's just say I have all of my teeth still.. they just ran out of room. Expected results are expected. Instead of |-|-|-|, it's \/\/\/\/.

It doesn't really occupy my mind all day, but it did end up with me having a bad learned habit of having a stupid looking smile where I don't open my mouth at all to keep people from seeing my teeth. I've been shot down for it before. And as Alberto said, you know that person is now not someone you'd want to get to know after they do that, but it still hurts a bit, no matter how much you try to no-sell it.

http://i.imgur.com/4BpME.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/cczhQ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/TGxKA.jpg

It's not stopping me from asking, mind.
 
Congrats Crushdance! Awesome work!

Oh how I wish it was a gap. Let's just say I have all of my teeth still.. they just ran out of room. Expected results are expected. Instead of |-|-|-|, it's \/\/\/\/.

It doesn't really occupy my mind all day, but it did end up with me having a bad learned habit of having a stupid looking smile where I don't open my mouth at all to keep people from seeing my teeth. I've been shot down for it before. And as Alberto said, you know that person is now not someone you'd want to get to know after they do that, but it still hurts a bit, no matter how much you try to no-sell it.

http://i.imgur.com/4BpME.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/cczhQ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/TGxKA.jpg

It's not stopping me from asking, mind.
Real talk, that's not that big of a deal. I mean it's not some Colgate commercial quality smile, but it's also not "yo I did meth for 15 years of my life" either. And some of those meth heads can pull in chicks. If a chick likes you, your faults won't even matter. She'll just rationalize them in her head. Just don't be self conscious about it. Girls can smell insecurity. Even if she likes you, maybe she'll throw it out there when you are in a relationship and have an argument. Be comfortable with who you are. Seriously, it's fine. If you're really that self conscious about it, I think they make braces for adults nowadays.
 
Congrats Crushdance! Awesome work!


Real talk, that's not that big of a deal. I mean it's not some Colgate commercial quality smile, but it's also not "yo I did meth for 15 years of my life" either. And some of those meth heads can pull in chicks. If a chick likes you, your faults won't even matter. She'll just rationalize them in her head. Just don't be self conscious about it. Girls can smell insecurity. Even if she likes you, maybe she'll throw it out there when you are in a relationship and have an argument. Be comfortable with who you are. Seriously, it's fine. If you're really that self conscious about it, I think they make braces for adults nowadays.

Yeah, that's a whole other topic. I actually had the money to start the process of getting them fixed (by getting all four of my wisdom teeth pulled), but I had two separate dentists (who were MDs) back out from helping me (I was even on the chair and sedated for one) because they were afraid something would happen, and I didn't have health insurance to cover the possible hospital costs if something went wrong. For something that can have an infection two or less inches from your brain and kill you, it's still treated as a relatively cosmetic part of your body in terms of help and coverage. The last insurance I had only covered up to teeth cleaning, and my dad's shenanigans with bankruptcy (tl;dr: my dad has the same name I do, filed for bankruptcy, I found out years later that one of the fucking credit companies put his bankruptcy on my record) blocked me from getting Care Credit.

Basically stuck in a loop of braces would fix it, but I need to get the wisdom teeth out, because they're what's pushing all the other teeth forward, but I can't get anyone to take them out :X Got a pretty cool X-ray out of my last attempt at least.
 
Yeah, that's a whole other topic. I actually had the money to start the process of getting them fixed (by getting all four of my wisdom teeth pulled), but I had two separate dentists (who were MDs) back out from helping me (I was even on the chair and sedated for one) because they were afraid something would happen, and I didn't have health insurance to cover the possible hospital costs if something went wrong. For something that can have an infection two or less inches from your brain and kill you, it's still treated as a relatively cosmetic part of your body in terms of help and coverage. The last insurance I had only covered up to teeth cleaning, and my dad's shenanigans with bankruptcy (tl;dr: my dad has the same name I do, filed for bankruptcy, I found out years later that one of the fucking credit companies put his bankruptcy on my record) blocked me from getting Care Credit.

Basically stuck in a loop of braces would fix it, but I need to get the wisdom teeth out, because they're what's pushing all the other teeth forward, but I can't get anyone to take them out :X Got a pretty cool X-ray out of my last attempt at least.

I think I'm about to have the same problem. I used to have braces but my wisdom teeth growing in have been pushing my teeth out of line. Hope things turn out better for you. Don't let it hold you back though. You're awesome! Remember that.
 
I think I'm about to have the same problem. I used to have braces but my wisdom teeth growing in have been pushing my teeth out of line. Hope things turn out better for you. Don't let it hold you back though. You're awesome! Remember that.

Get that checked and taken care of ASAP. Every dentist I talked to while making this attempt told me that the private dentist I had as a kid should have had my wisdoms pulled. Better to do it now than wait and having to redo everything for more money.

It also turned out the filling he did came out later. The ones the dental college did (done by students) are still in to this day. Tradeoff is the appointments are like 5 hours long instead of 1, since there's like 5 people standing over you and an actual Dentist supervising and teaching.

Thank goodness my teeth went weird in the right way so I don't have to worry about bad breath at least when talking to women.

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Get that checked and taken care of ASAP. Every dentist I talked to while making this attempt told me that the private dentist I had as a kid should have had my wisdoms pulled. Better to do it now than wait and having to redo everything for more money.

It also turned out the filling he did came out later. The ones the dental college did (done by students) are still in to this day. Tradeoff is the appointments are like 5 hours long instead of 1, since there's like 5 people standing over you and an actual Dentist supervising and teaching.

Thank goodness my teeth went weird in the right way so I don't have to worry about bad breath at least when talking to women.

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Yeah I need to do it. Damn, school starts up for me next week too...
What's this about the bad breath thing? If your teeth go crooked in the wrong way you get bad breath?
 
Yeah I need to do it. Damn, school starts up for me next week too...
What's this about the bad breath thing? If your teeth go crooked in the wrong way you get bad breath?

Crooked teeth can cause cavities in the tooth in front of it. Since it can be in the side of the tooth, harder to see/feel and can get worse before you catch it.

Since all my teeth went crooked in the same way on one side, it didn't happen there.

The other side, where they stayed straighter, had one of the teeth dig into the one in front of it and bam, cavity that had to be filled.
 
Just had my first kiss. I told her I was a little shy and so desperately wanted to hold her hand. We kept talking and I walked her home. I said goodnight and she just pulled me in and kissed me. OMG. It was SO GOOD! Raging boner f m l.

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Fuck yeah! Congrats to you dude! By the way, did she noticed the "raging boner?"
 
:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

She went from "Maybe" to my last text pushing over apparently with my humour, lol. I said "I'll pick you up at X" and she said "No. I'll just take a taxi since I barely know you." I just laughed it off and told her it was fine and that I could understand. Through the enitre thing I always made sure to do things the way she wanted and never said "Can I? Should we?" or anything like that. But rather "I will", "How about" etc. Always giving her room to say no, but never pressuring her or coming off as controlling.

We spent 8 and a half hours together! 8. freaking 5! I told her we could watch a movie if she felt more comfortable that way and she agreed. So I met up with her there and tried to hug her. She bailed out and shook my hand. I was like: What the DUCK?! But continued joking and making her laugh. We went to the theatre and she grabbed her purse to buy tickets. I pulled the tickets from behind her as I'd had my arm around her shoulder and flashed them infront of her. She was flabbergasted and covered her mouth going: "You didn't!" I thought I'd fucked up or something but she just blushed brightly and thanked me. We went to the concession and she offered to pay since I'd gotten the tickets, I jokingly told her that I was her chaperone to make sure nothing bad happened since she was so afraid and payed. It was so stupid but we both kept laughing all the way in. Throughout the movie she offered me popcorn, etc and we shared our stuff.

Finally at the end I gushed about Batman and she quipped whether I was in love with him and if she should bother going on with me. I told her I was the damn dark knight in colour. A joke that I imemdiately regretted and felt stupid saying, but she found funny after asking me whether she could laugh or not. So then we went and sat down for a while and got some coffee, talked for about two hours and as it was getting late. I suggessted and didn't ask, that I drive her home. She said "I'd love that!" comapred to her earlier worries about me picking her up. We went in and she said she was a little hungry, I was too and so we grabbed some food. She offered to pay yet again and this time I let her since I believe in being equal and also because I wanted to let her personality come through. We went back in the car and I asked her if she wanted to eat in there or somewhere else. She thought I was tlaking about taking her home and I just said "No! I'm just like you, you might not believe it; but I am. I'm in no rush. I just want to get to know you." She turned beet red and said "Nobodies ever said something like that to me before". I hugged her and held her for a moment before saying "Well somethings rushing now though" and she pushed me away giggling.

We ended up in a random park and ate in the middle of the night. It was so surreal. She commented on how beautiful it was at night and I agreed. We just stared at each other and smiled before finishing up. I asked her where she lived and she said not far. She then said: "Why don't you walk me home? I'd like that." I wanted to ask her soooo bad, but was too afraid. I blurted out a quick "Sure!" and we walked in the night. At this point eveyrthing was firing to hold her hand but I was all "OH shit Crush! Don't be too pushy man!" and didn't. As we walked I asked her if she's ever been on a date and she said yes. She asked me if I had and I said no. Then out of nowhere she just stopped and said "Why?! You're such a handsome and nice guy. I thought you...OMG! did you mean...in the car earlier?!" To which I just shrugged thinking that I'd blown it. She just broke into laughter and said that I'd meant that I was like her in my shyness and not...you know...being a virgin and all. Good lord was that weight taken off my shoulders!

We got to her house and her mother and sister were still awake. She asked if I wanted to meet them and I declined since I was so damn nerbous still and her mother looked like a BOSS from the kitchen window. At this point I said goodnight and it began to rain lightly. Damn I did everything to fight this lame ass boner of mine and turned to walk away. She grabbed my arm and gave me the most ludcrious smile EVER before saying: "I have been on dates before. But no guy has ever made me feel so comfortable" and kissed me. It was so sudden that I didn't even think it had just happened. I muttered "I..I've never done that before either" and she pulled me in real freaking tight and kissed me again. I went stupid. Like for a moment no thought actually occurred in my brain. She said "Are you okay?" and I realised that it was starting to rain hard. We laughed about it and quickly said goodnight before she ran inside.

I don't know what the fuck just happened today. How we went from "Maybe" to om nom nom. Holy shit. I'm not even happy right now. I'm just in a state of shock. How she was nervous to jokingly calling me her "Dark knight" in 8 hours is wow worthy. The time just seemed as if someone clicked their fingers.

Gawd this is nauseating....just the way it is supposed to be.

Good work dude. A victory!
 
After my first kiss I told her it was my first kiss and she just said "That's weird."

:/

Although, it went from kiss to makeout session directly.
 
:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

She went from "Maybe" to my last text pushing over apparently with my humour, lol. I said "I'll pick you up at X" and she said "No. I'll just take a taxi since I barely know you." I just laughed it off and told her it was fine and that I could understand. Through the enitre thing I always made sure to do things the way she wanted and never said "Can I? Should we?" or anything like that. But rather "I will", "How about" etc. Always giving her room to say no, but never pressuring her or coming off as controlling.

We spent 8 and a half hours together! 8. freaking 5! I told her we could watch a movie if she felt more comfortable that way and she agreed. So I met up with her there and tried to hug her. She bailed out and shook my hand. I was like: What the DUCK?! But continued joking and making her laugh. We went to the theatre and she grabbed her purse to buy tickets. I pulled the tickets from behind her as I'd had my arm around her shoulder and flashed them infront of her. She was flabbergasted and covered her mouth going: "You didn't!" I thought I'd fucked up or something but she just blushed brightly and thanked me. We went to the concession and she offered to pay since I'd gotten the tickets, I jokingly told her that I was her chaperone to make sure nothing bad happened since she was so afraid and payed. It was so stupid but we both kept laughing all the way in. Throughout the movie she offered me popcorn, etc and we shared our stuff.

Finally at the end I gushed about Batman and she quipped whether I was in love with him and if she should bother going on with me. I told her I was the damn dark knight in colour. A joke that I imemdiately regretted and felt stupid saying, but she found funny after asking me whether she could laugh or not. So then we went and sat down for a while and got some coffee, talked for about two hours and as it was getting late. I suggessted and didn't ask, that I drive her home. She said "I'd love that!" comapred to her earlier worries about me picking her up. We went in and she said she was a little hungry, I was too and so we grabbed some food. She offered to pay yet again and this time I let her since I believe in being equal and also because I wanted to let her personality come through. We went back in the car and I asked her if she wanted to eat in there or somewhere else. She thought I was tlaking about taking her home and I just said "No! I'm just like you, you might not believe it; but I am. I'm in no rush. I just want to get to know you." She turned beet red and said "Nobodies ever said something like that to me before". I hugged her and held her for a moment before saying "Well somethings rushing now though" and she pushed me away giggling.

We ended up in a random park and ate in the middle of the night. It was so surreal. She commented on how beautiful it was at night and I agreed. We just stared at each other and smiled before finishing up. I asked her where she lived and she said not far. She then said: "Why don't you walk me home? I'd like that." I wanted to ask her soooo bad, but was too afraid. I blurted out a quick "Sure!" and we walked in the night. At this point eveyrthing was firing to hold her hand but I was all "OH shit Crush! Don't be too pushy man!" and didn't. As we walked I asked her if she's ever been on a date and she said yes. She asked me if I had and I said no. Then out of nowhere she just stopped and said "Why?! You're such a handsome and nice guy. I thought you...OMG! did you mean...in the car earlier?!" To which I just shrugged thinking that I'd blown it. She just broke into laughter and said that I'd meant that I was like her in my shyness and not...you know...being a virgin and all. Good lord was that weight taken off my shoulders!

We got to her house and her mother and sister were still awake. She asked if I wanted to meet them and I declined since I was so damn nerbous still and her mother looked like a BOSS from the kitchen window. At this point I said goodnight and it began to rain lightly. Damn I did everything to fight this lame ass boner of mine and turned to walk away. She grabbed my arm and gave me the most ludcrious smile EVER before saying: "I have been on dates before. But no guy has ever made me feel so comfortable" and kissed me. It was so sudden that I didn't even think it had just happened. I muttered "I..I've never done that before either" and she pulled me in real freaking tight and kissed me again. I went stupid. Like for a moment no thought actually occurred in my brain. She said "Are you okay?" and I realised that it was starting to rain hard. We laughed about it and quickly said goodnight before she ran inside.

I don't know what the fuck just happened today. How we went from "Maybe" to om nom nom. Holy shit. I'm not even happy right now. I'm just in a state of shock. How she was nervous to jokingly calling me her "Dark knight" in 8 hours is wow worthy. The time just seemed as if someone clicked their fingers.

Haha even though it was weird to read sometimes(can i ask how old you two are?) But i know that feeling of happiness and its pretty fucking awesome. The world suddenly is a brighter place.

I remember a moment like that, walking home smiling, and the best damn smoke i had in my damn life.
 
Oh how I wish it was a gap. Let's just say I have all of my teeth still.. they just ran out of room. Expected results are expected. Instead of |-|-|-|, it's \/\/\/\/.

It doesn't really occupy my mind all day, but it did end up with me having a bad learned habit of having a stupid looking smile where I don't open my mouth at all to keep people from seeing my teeth. I've been shot down for it before. And as Alberto said, you know that person is now not someone you'd want to get to know after they do that, but it still hurts a bit, no matter how much you try to no-sell it.

http://i.imgur.com/4BpME.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/cczhQ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/TGxKA.jpg

It's not stopping me from asking, mind.
I'll straight up tell you man, my teeth are slightly crooked like that and I have a gap as well. Yours look much better than mine. And honestly, who stares at teeth unless you have a really wide smile? :S I do the whole half smile thing too though. You do get really conscious about it, so I see where you're coming from. I don't think it's something that should be a big deal though or anything. One thing I've learned from this experience is, we're all more conscious about our flaws than other people.

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Fuck yeah! Congrats to you dude! By the way, did she noticed the "raging boner?"

I hope not! Haha. I was a perfect gentleman the entire time. But I never realized how hard it could be(pardon the pun) to control physical reactions until you've actually been tested. The kiss was horrible though lol! I had no idea what I was doing.

Haha even though it was weird to read sometimes(can i ask how old you two are?) But i know that feeling of happiness and its pretty fucking awesome. The world suddenly is a brighter place.

I remember a moment like that, walking home smiling, and the best damn smoke i had in my damn life.

22 and 24! Just a two year difference. And yeah, I don't think I had all my cognitive abilities when I typed that up. I really enjoyed the moment but it was so sudden that my mind just shut down and my body took over.

Take pride in stride and really savor it, Crushdance. There will be more to come my friend.
Hehe. I was so nervous about so many things, especially since it was my first date ever. I didn't really touch her much and just pretended that I was with one of my guy friends hanging out. This morning I woke up realizing what I'd accomplished and had the biggest grin on my face. The nervousness is gone now. For once I actually feel confident in myself. I don't see any problem holding her hand or anything in the future. I don't feel afraid to touch her or get close now that I know that's it's not such a big deal. I feel confident and energetic,

Aw man. But you guys are really awesome! I remember all the things I posted in this thread in the past...just horrid. But I've come a long way and I couldn't have done it without GAF. Sure I disagreed on a lot of things people said and still do. But the notion of being yourself and just taking it not so seriously really, really helped. It's not so much about thinking as it is feeling what to say and do. And a lot of us are introverts who just love to over-think things, haha. Relaxation is really important!

But still. Damn. The way this all started is just unbelievable. And the fact that such a beautiful girl just landed at my feet and I nearly ran away has me shaking my head. When she told me that I was cute, I just wrote it off and didn't think anything of it. I finally decided just to call her and slowly over a week I came to know her a lot more. It's true that I didn't really have to chase after her to begin with, but I had to eventually. For all my self doubt and shyness, I knew that if I let this go; I had no right to ever bitch again. I didn't return her call at first because I made up all these assumptions about her based on her beauty and looks. Without even knowing a thing about her I just said "She's out of my league", "She'll never date me", etc. But you don't know someone until you spend time with them. Until you've given them a chance.

Now I'm sitting her with a strawberry blonde girlfriend who brings up some hardcore sci-fi, studies Physics and plays Arkham City. I don't even.
 
I hope not! Haha. I was a perfect gentleman the entire time. But I never realized how hard it could be(pardon the pun) to control physical reactions until you've actually been tested. The kiss was horrible though lol! I had no idea what I was doing.
Don't worry about it :) It's fully expected and normal to react like that. Obviously not the same situation but a similar thing happened to me when dancing with a woman and she did notice it (as she had her butt all over my crotch). She liked it enough to grab it with her hand :lol Just own it. I think a lot of girls would be thrilled to know they can get that reaction in a guy, just like how a guy would be glad if he could turn on a girl like that.

Great read, like I said you've come a long way since I first saw your posts on gaf. Congratulations ^^
 
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