I don't care if she will be with another. What I care about is that I finally listened to my own feelings and give myself the opportunity to move on.
Dating-Age |OT3| Positivity, Confidence, and Not Being a "Nice" Guy
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Gonna jump in here and ask for some advice. I've been dating a women for over 4 years and the relationship seems to be dieing out. This is my first long term girlfriend, she has 2 kids in junior high, and we don't live together but we work at the same company. She doesn't seem to miss me when I'm gone on business trips and she totally lost her sex drive. It went from sex on our lunch breaks to once a month. We use to go out more but now she doesn't make any effort and we just stay home watching tv 90% of the time. I've tried to do a weekend away but she shoots it down. I no longer get a hug and a kiss when I leave her place as she just says goodnight from where she is sitting. At first I thought it was job and kid stress getting her down but now it's been like this for months. She is an amazing women but now I'm starting to feel like our relationship has died and we just don't want to admitt it.
So should I just give it some time or break up and try to move on? It's tough for me to move on because she is basically my best friend and I don't have another social network to hang out with and meet new people.
So should I just give it some time or break up and try to move on? It's tough for me to move on because she is basically my best friend and I don't have another social network to hang out with and meet new people.
That doesn't sound like a relationship worth being involved in. I mean, you can either break things off, or talk about the issues you have with the relationship and try to get at the bottom of what's going on. Though, you may not like what you hear. Then again, she may be oblivious to how things have degraded. Also, never rely on your partner to be your all, you should always have a healthy social life outside a relationship.
Perspicacity
Banned
Have you laid out these issues to her as plainly as you have to us?
It sounds like the relationship has gone bad, but you may as well see if she's willing to do anything about it if you're committed. If she doesn't want to change or continues to deny the problems it's probably time to move on.
Keep it up man. I hope you're talking to chicks in your other classes and not solely her. At least you're showing her that you're not simply interested in her as a friend.
Another great day for me; I think fortune is going to smile upon me very soon. I talked to one of the girls in my Art History class during a break by simply asking her if she got the textbook and for how much then we went from there. It's pretty easy to make conversation with people about anything I'm starting to learn.
Much later that day, at a book signing, I initiated the conversation between two women who turned out to be teachers by asking them about this really of a book that she had and going from there; we built a pretty good rapport and had good conversation all around. I was also talking a couple of dudes; one of which was a teacher as well as two other girls that were sitting behind me.
I also hit it off well with a Dominican chick with braces since we broke off into speaking in Spanish for a while (who knew that Dominicans fall for each others' charms? I'm not the stereotypical Dominican but I was myself so if that's my charm, then cool) She hinted at wanting my number because she wanted to send me a picture of her with the author. Her quiet white friend caught my interest. I made a couple of a wise cracks which had her laughing. Unfortunately, once I got my book signed left the store, and had already swiped into the subway, I realized I should have waited for them. It sucks, but things happen so I'm not so sore about it. I do think about what could've happened had I not gotten into the subway right away.
There was another attractive girl who was by herself that caught my eye but I didn't talk to. People come and go all the time throughout our daily lives, so that's why if someone catches our eye we must seize the moment. It's that transitive thing that EviLore keeps talking about in his travel thread. People are also very observant and open up very easily once the ice gets broken.
I shall be keeping the momentum going by talking to more people though out my classes and what not. There's an ice cream social/karaoke event at my school later today that I plan on checking out. Not sure if I have the guts to sing/rap, but I'm in a very good social mood so we'll see where it goes. I feel pretty damn good; that's the way everyone should be feeling every day after talking to people. So yeah guys, if your favorite author is in town for a book signing/Q&A, go check it out. You will meet people extremely easily. The author was joking around by saying that all the single people in the room better hook up with each other by the time the signing was all said and done.
I haven't cried a tear yet, it probably will come though. Heading for school.
I'm thinking, maybe I should just let her pick up the box instead of me going there as I have never met the people she lives with at her place, it would be awkward to that family, that a stranger just come by with a huge box.
I'm thinking, maybe I should just let her pick up the box instead of me going there as I have never met the people she lives with at her place, it would be awkward to that family, that a stranger just come by with a huge box.
Yeah, let her pick up the stuff. You shouldn't have to deliver anything.
Bam Bam Baklava
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Keep it up man. I hope you're talking to chicks in your other classes and not solely her. At least you're showing her that you're not simply interested in her as a friend.
Another great day for me; I think fortune is going to smile upon me very soon. I talked to one of the girls in my Art History class during a break by simply asking her if she got the textbook and for how much then we went from there. It's pretty easy to make conversation with people about anything I'm starting to learn.
Much later that day, at a book signing, I initiated the conversation between two women who turned out to be teachers by asking them about this really of a book that she had and going from there; we built a pretty good rapport and had good conversation all around. I was also talking a couple of dudes; one of which was a teacher as well as two other girls that were sitting behind me.
I also hit it off well with a Dominican chick with braces since we broke off into speaking in Spanish for a while (who knew that Dominicans fall for each others' charms? I'm not the stereotypical Dominican but I was myself so if that's my charm, then cool) She hinted at wanting my number because she wanted to send me a picture of her with the author. Her quiet white friend caught my interest. I made a couple of a wise cracks which had her laughing. Unfortunately, once I got my book signed left the store, and had already swiped into the subway, I realized I should have waited for them. It sucks, but things happen so I'm not so sore about it. I do think about what could've happened had I not gotten into the subway right away.
There was another attractive girl who was by herself that caught my eye but I didn't talk to. People come and go all the time throughout our daily lives, so that's why if someone catches our eye we must seize the moment. It's that transitive thing that EviLore keeps talking about in his travel thread. People are also very observant and open up very easily once the ice gets broken.
I shall be keeping the momentum going by talking to more people though out my classes and what not. There's an ice cream social/karaoke event at my school later today that I plan on checking out. Not sure if I have the guts to sing/rap, but I'm in a very good social mood so we'll see where it goes. I feel pretty damn good; that's the way everyone should be feeling every day after talking to people. So yeah guys, if your favorite author is in town for a book signing/Q&A, go check it out. You will meet people extremely easily. The author was joking around by saying that all the single people in the room better hook up with each other by the time the signing was all said and done.
This is sounding pretty great. Hoping for more updates from you.
FUUUCKKKKKK
I need to vent...
Met a girl this WE, hot and sexy.
She had to go to a second party so we split. I keep in touch through sms...
going smoothly...
She works on sundays, I visit her at work. Sexual tension is melting air...
She has a rendez-vous for the evening...
I keep in touch during Monday but I'm stock full of work, then yesterday she goes all "you could have sexed me at my workplace on sunday"...
I know the trick, yet my messages go wilder...
she goddamn masturbates to my rhymes and send a pic...
I live with a girl, her boyfriend is back on Saturday...
the fuckkkkkk...
CHEAT-GAF, the fuck do I do?
I can't have her at my place.
I need to vent...
Met a girl this WE, hot and sexy.
She had to go to a second party so we split. I keep in touch through sms...
going smoothly...
She works on sundays, I visit her at work. Sexual tension is melting air...
She has a rendez-vous for the evening...
I keep in touch during Monday but I'm stock full of work, then yesterday she goes all "you could have sexed me at my workplace on sunday"...
I know the trick, yet my messages go wilder...
she goddamn masturbates to my rhymes and send a pic...
I live with a girl, her boyfriend is back on Saturday...
the fuckkkkkk...
CHEAT-GAF, the fuck do I do?
I can't have her at my place.
I'll see if she'll come pick up her things. She'll probably go to Sweden and then pick up her things in some weeks when she decides to get the box as well.
dreamcastmaster
Banned
Hotel.
well that's kinda sordid, so unless she asks I think I'd rather stay away from that solution.
I can borrow a friend's place though.
But logistics + finding a proper excuse for my grilfriend is making it doubly emabarassing, I seriously dislike cheating but...I 'm beyond finding excuses for doing it.
I really tried to push the girl and see what she thinks of me and both cheating, yet I can't help want her and she clearly has desires for me at the moment.
Maybe since she masturbated on me and told/shoed me so, that will keep her in check.
Yet having been this far, it feels kinda dumb not to do it with her.
electricshake
Member
Yeh seems like a douche move. Dump your girlfriend or don't cheat.
yep, I'm not here to discuss the hows and whys and I am glad REASON-GAF is quick to point the exit before I make of a fool of myself even more.
I kinda make the girl look like a slut, and my girlfriend stupid. Truth is both are goddamn fine, and I'm not worthy of their attention and yet I am...is there a philosophical thread in here?
I kinda make the girl look like a slut, and my girlfriend stupid. Truth is both are goddamn fine, and I'm not worthy of their attention and yet I am...is there a philosophical thread in here?
We talked about it once. She cried a lot and said I deserved better. She also said she loved me and didn't know why she was being the way she was. I thought we would spend some time apart but she invited me to a movie the next day. The level of affection I'm looking for still isn't there but we get a long so well. In over 4 yrs we've never had a fight. I think we might end up as friends but I still want her really badly.
ymoc
Member
Yikes!
Nightmare it is, huh?
Hang in there. We are stronger than we sometimes feel. You will get through it.
But don't forget, it's all in the mind. If you keep your head leveled, nothing can break you. Psych yourself with some encouragement if you have to. You're THE man ! A rock. A mountain. XD If you don't believe it, just come back here and GAF will kick some sense back into you.
Hmmmm motivation is the key yeah. I don't know what would work for you... I mean working out has plenty of perks: getting fitter, healthier, toning your body (great for attracting ladies). It's your "honey" with which you'll attract the bees!
Keep up the spirits! You never know when she might appear. I met my gf for the first time just sitting in the living room when she came to visit my siser. Who knows who you'll meet tomorrow.
What about some other hobbies? Since this is a gaming forum, obvious thing would be trying out some new games, perhaps from a genre that you haven't particularly touched before.....
Another idea is try to learn how to play a new instrument! It's NEVER too late! I'm dead serious.
ymoc
Member
Do you think she either:
- Lost interest
or
- She has become so secure and comfortable with the whole relationship that she's forsaken the daily expressing of affection. What if she wasn't a romance freak from the start?
What is your gut telling you?
Perspicacity
Banned
This sounds a little like the situation I was in, though a lot of the circumstances were different. My reasoning for ending it was that I felt I was going to lose interest and that we were not going to be moving forward, so I had to get it over with.
It sounds like in the end you'll both end up hurting, but it's up to you to decide whether that happens now or in the future when your lives are even more settled in with each other. I still feel guilty for ending it, but I would have felt even more guilty letting the relationship limp on.
This seems almost hard to believe. Four years without a -single- fight? My Ex and I were best friends, but we fought all the time.
And much like Perspicacity said - I ended my relationship because I didn't see any growth on her part. She hadn't changed much in three years. It has been really hard, but you have to do what's best for you. Your happiness and finding someone who makes you a better person.
Lone_Prodigy
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Stop making excuses.
white dynamite
Member
Fuck me gaf, I'm an idiot.
I mentioned earlier in this thread how I was talking to this girl. Well I was texting her and I told her how she kind of reminded me of this girl who I used to know who looked similar. The girl who I used to know was bipolar, immature, and kind of a skank.
Yeah...
Obviously she was insulted. I texted her after and apologized saying that I didn't mean to say that. I told her she's the complete opposite of that girl and how she's one of the sweetest girls I know (which she is) and apologized again.
I feel so stupid. Is there anything I can do?
I mentioned earlier in this thread how I was talking to this girl. Well I was texting her and I told her how she kind of reminded me of this girl who I used to know who looked similar. The girl who I used to know was bipolar, immature, and kind of a skank.
Yeah...
Obviously she was insulted. I texted her after and apologized saying that I didn't mean to say that. I told her she's the complete opposite of that girl and how she's one of the sweetest girls I know (which she is) and apologized again.
I feel so stupid. Is there anything I can do?
Devolution
Member
Let me get this straight a hotel is sordid but the cheating part isn't?
Learn your lesson. You've already apologized, she'll come around if she's worth it. Continue to work on yourself and you won't need to worry about "this one girl" anymore. You're not supposed to get hung up on any one girl like that. Not this early anyway.
Johnny Cage In The Shower
Member
Ok so I've known her for about a month now, we went on three dates so far, I showed lots of interest to her on the second and third dates, kissing etc.
But she insists that I should call her everyday at 8:30pm clockwork, she is very "disciplined" in her daily routines, work, gym, dinner etc.
We live one hour drive away from each other, and weekends is the only and best time to see each other. I really suck at phone conversations, if I have no good reason to call somebody, I wont, I cannot engage in long ass phone conversation, my life is pretty simple, and I work from home (alone) so I honestly do not have exciting weekdays.
She still wants to know how my day went, and I feel somewhat embarrassed and pressured to sound more "exciting" for her. I like the idea of (at this point in our "relationship") to not talk everyday and just anticipate the weekend and have lots to talk about and have fun.... but she just wants to chat on the phone every night, I am becoming really uncomfortable...
I even skipped a night or two not talking to her, she indirectly told me off for it "Next time just send me a simple text that you cannot talk tonight, you are going to a concert with your friends mmkay?"
I donno GAF, I like her, I really do, I enjoy her company in person. But I don't like this iron fist of controlling at this very early stage of our relationship, I mean just three bloody dates so far!(not even a month) let's get to know each other better, and have good reasons to call each other, rather than a business routine "I'm checking in at 8:30 tonight."
Are you suppose to talk with someone you like a half hour to an hour on the phone everyday? Am I just an asshole? Am I too indifferent? am I self conscious that I do not have the social skills to entertain a woman on the telephone for a half to an hour everyday?
Her authoritative demands are kinda becoming a bit of a turn off, I don't want a mother that wants to know how was my day, everyday, I want a girlfriend.
But she insists that I should call her everyday at 8:30pm clockwork, she is very "disciplined" in her daily routines, work, gym, dinner etc.
We live one hour drive away from each other, and weekends is the only and best time to see each other. I really suck at phone conversations, if I have no good reason to call somebody, I wont, I cannot engage in long ass phone conversation, my life is pretty simple, and I work from home (alone) so I honestly do not have exciting weekdays.
She still wants to know how my day went, and I feel somewhat embarrassed and pressured to sound more "exciting" for her. I like the idea of (at this point in our "relationship") to not talk everyday and just anticipate the weekend and have lots to talk about and have fun.... but she just wants to chat on the phone every night, I am becoming really uncomfortable...
I even skipped a night or two not talking to her, she indirectly told me off for it "Next time just send me a simple text that you cannot talk tonight, you are going to a concert with your friends mmkay?"
I donno GAF, I like her, I really do, I enjoy her company in person. But I don't like this iron fist of controlling at this very early stage of our relationship, I mean just three bloody dates so far!(not even a month) let's get to know each other better, and have good reasons to call each other, rather than a business routine "I'm checking in at 8:30 tonight."
Are you suppose to talk with someone you like a half hour to an hour on the phone everyday? Am I just an asshole? Am I too indifferent? am I self conscious that I do not have the social skills to entertain a woman on the telephone for a half to an hour everyday?
Her authoritative demands are kinda becoming a bit of a turn off, I don't want a mother that wants to know how was my day, everyday, I want a girlfriend.
FO-totality
Poet Centuriate
Maybe you should address those concerns to her?
Why dont you just break up with your girl if you want it that bad?
Whatever. Not giving you advice at all.
This is a thread for helping people breach personal barriers and build confidence in order to find a good relationship. Not fuck around behind the backs of their current relationships.
Last thing I care about is helping you successfully cheat.
This whole thing is ridiculous. She initiates any contact and you should only text to make plans when she does so. Nothing else. The precedent has already been set, so expect to move on here
Briefly ralked to a girl that's in my Media Production class tomorrow. Asked her what she was reading before seguing into a small conversation before I realized she wanted to get back into reading her book so I cut it short. I get the feeling she's doing something with a young pretty boy professor that I had class under since she went into his office shortly after talking to her. But who am I to say?
Any way, much later on, when I was on my way home in the subway, I made eye contact with a fairly attractive white woman (well she was tanned but still) and noticed that every time we would lock eyes, she looked away. This went on for about two minutes or so until she got ready to get off at her stop. I thought she was going to get off in a few more stops so it caught me by surprise when she got off so soon. Ah well that's life. I'm guessing that the look-look-away is womanese for "I want you to talk to me since I find you attractive?"
EDIT: I didn't smile when I looked at her. I feel self-conscious about giving off a creepy Shepard smile. I mean don't get wrong I have a full set of decent colored teeth.
Any way, much later on, when I was on my way home in the subway, I made eye contact with a fairly attractive white woman (well she was tanned but still) and noticed that every time we would lock eyes, she looked away. This went on for about two minutes or so until she got ready to get off at her stop. I thought she was going to get off in a few more stops so it caught me by surprise when she got off so soon. Ah well that's life. I'm guessing that the look-look-away is womanese for "I want you to talk to me since I find you attractive?"
EDIT: I didn't smile when I looked at her. I feel self-conscious about giving off a creepy Shepard smile. I mean don't get wrong I have a full set of decent colored teeth.
T
Transhuman
Unconfirmed Member
Or she's looking to you because she's wondering whether you're starting at her. Or she's into you.
If your smile reveals teeth you're smiling wrong.
Haha, that's funny because that's exactly how it is in the train minus the dramatic music and that I didn't get off to follow her. That's kind of creepy stalker stuff and I live in NYC myself so I know. I'd be scared stupid if I had someone following me out the train but I get what you're saying.
I see; I'd figure it be Shepard creepy. So I can grin then without having to smile. I've been doing a little bit of both plus an acknowledging nod whenever I pass by a girl that makes eye contact with me in the halls.
Hey, I was just wondering if this is being creepy:
I just met these Japanese girls a few weeks ago with a friend. I talked to the girls about how they liked it in my city, their taste in music (since music is pretty universal) and biggest cultural difference they noticed from Japan to here. Then I asked them the next day if they would possibly want to go karaoke with the same friend the next week just for fun (since they said they like karaoke-ing)
Pretty much the convo asking them was like
Me - "Hey, are you busy on Friday, I was thinking we could go karaoke with *insert friend name here* . It'll probably be fun!"
Them - "Oh sorry, we're busy on Friday but if you have free time, tell us and we can go out for coffee again!"
Me - "okay sure! I'll let you know"
This is all according to that friend who went with me and how they thought I came on too strong and sending a creepy vibe? Maybe it's the karaoke thing? Because I don't remember saying anything that would send out a creepy vibe :S
I just met these Japanese girls a few weeks ago with a friend. I talked to the girls about how they liked it in my city, their taste in music (since music is pretty universal) and biggest cultural difference they noticed from Japan to here. Then I asked them the next day if they would possibly want to go karaoke with the same friend the next week just for fun (since they said they like karaoke-ing)
Pretty much the convo asking them was like
Me - "Hey, are you busy on Friday, I was thinking we could go karaoke with *insert friend name here* . It'll probably be fun!"
Them - "Oh sorry, we're busy on Friday but if you have free time, tell us and we can go out for coffee again!
"Me - "okay sure! I'll let you know"
This is all according to that friend who went with me and how they thought I came on too strong and sending a creepy vibe? Maybe it's the karaoke thing? Because I don't remember saying anything that would send out a creepy vibe :S
Hey, I was just wondering if this is being creepy:
I just met these Japanese girls a few weeks ago with a friend. I talked to the girls about how they liked it in my city, their taste in music (since music is pretty universal) and biggest cultural difference they noticed from Japan to here. Then I asked them the next day if they would possibly want to go karaoke with the same friend the next week just for fun (since they said they like karaoke-ing)
Pretty much the convo asking them was like
Me - "Hey, are you busy on Friday, I was thinking we could go karaoke with *insert friend name here* . It'll probably be fun!"
Them - "Oh sorry, we're busy on Friday but if you have free time, tell us and we can go out for coffee again!
Me - "okay sure! I'll let you know"
This is all according to that friend who went with me and how they thought I came on too strong and sending a creepy vibe? Maybe it's the karaoke thing? Because I don't remember saying anything that would send out a creepy vibe :S
How do you know they thought it was creepy...they told your friend specifically that?
Apparently they told the friend that. That friend then told my other close friend and that's how I heard it from.
Fuck 'em.
If it was creepy it was probably how you said it (tone, body language etc) not what you said specifically.
Next time in those situations just say im going to karoakee on such and such day. See their reaction. A positive reaction, you can then say "oh you can come along". If there's any need for you two to exchange info about it, Just say "shoot me a text" and she either pulls out her phone or not. That's how you invite
Rocket Scientist
Member
Some time ago I asked about advice for learning how to dance and someone replied Dance Central I think. Pretty good idea actually and I wish I had a console. It was clear soon after my post that I wouldn't be needing to learn how to dance anymore though. Some things happened and I think my girlfriend is done with our relationship. Never been through a breakup before and I'm still in love with her. Feels like shit. I don't want it to end, but right now it seems like for her to be happy we should part ways. How do you even reconcile with this idea that someone you love so much would be better off without you? I don't want to. Yet I know that I'm probably being selfish in wanting things to not end. It's a fucked up feeling.
So last Saturday I hung out with a girl and its very obvious we clicked. We went bowling and to Batman because she wanted to see it. Afterwards we made out and talked about everything for maybe like... almost four hours into the morning until my car battery died because I'm retarded (she stuck around and helped me charge it up, making out in the rain while we waited). She said after this she'd be super duper busy, which I understand but I texted her Tuesday night and once (talking about her play she's performing in) Wednesday night, but she hasn't gotten back to me. (We texted several times a day before and after the date) Should I be worried? I really liked her and in person she liked me too, but over texts she seems lackadaisical (though I wonder if that's because of her work) and doesn't seem to respond to my flirting when I do it (like just takes the compliment but doesn't give one back)
What do I do? I don't want to scare her off because she's pretty awesome, but I'm worried.
edit: I messaged her going "you weren't kidding about being super busy
I hope you have some free time at some point to hang out again, but I understand if you're booked!"
If she doesn't reply to that then I give up
What do I do? I don't want to scare her off because she's pretty awesome, but I'm worried.
edit: I messaged her going "you weren't kidding about being super busy
I hope you have some free time at some point to hang out again, but I understand if you're booked!"If she doesn't reply to that then I give up
So last Saturday I hung out with a girl and its very obvious we clicked. We went bowling and to Batman because she wanted to see it. Afterwards we made out and talked about everything for maybe like... almost four hours into the morning until my car battery died because I'm retarded (she stuck around and helped me charge it up, making out in the rain while we waited). She said after this she'd be super duper busy, which I understand but I texted her Tuesday night and once (talking about her play she's performing in) Wednesday night, but she hasn't gotten back to me. (We texted several times a day before and after the date) Should I be worried? I really liked her and in person she liked me too, but over texts she seems lackadaisical (though I wonder if that's because of her work) and doesn't seem to respond to my flirting when I do it (like just takes the compliment but doesn't give one back)
What do I do? I don't want to scare her off because she's pretty awesome, but I'm worried.
edit: I messaged her going "you weren't kidding about being super busy
If she doesn't reply to that then I give up
Time to put the brakes on I'd say.
Take it easy. Were you drinking at all during that date? Maybe she woke up the next day and felt she moved a little too fast with you or something and wants a breather.
You made it clear to her at this point that you are still interested. Now just back off and let her take time to respond. If you continue what you're doing, nothing good will come of it.
Well that's real good then. Either she really is super busy and will find time to contact you soon, or she changed her mind and is moving on.
No matter which one of those two it is, there's nothing you can do about it so just do your best to relax and hope for the best right now.
It sounds like you two had a great time. I'm sure it's just that she's so busy or something.pheonix991
Neo Member
I met a girl on my way home from uni on the bus last week. Saw her again Wednesday, was talking to her, flirting, etc... got her number. Today, called her, left a message asking her if she wanted to grab a drink Saturday night. She didn't pick up, because I assume she's at one of her two jobs. Sucks, because it's late, and since it's rude to call someone back when it's late, she probably won't give me an answer tonight. Normally, this probably wouldn't make someone nervous, but, I'm 22, and haven't asked someone out since highschool... I've spent the past 4 years in the military, stationed in MT, and my choices in women was either, fat and ugly, or hot and crazy, so, I haven't done anything with them. And I only had a fling with one girl 3 years ago, and that sorta just happened...
Anyway, WISH ME LUCK! This girl is gorgeous and seems to be pretty cool!
Anyway, WISH ME LUCK! This girl is gorgeous and seems to be pretty cool!
There's a girl I've known for a little while now, and lately we've been spending a decent amount of time together. She and her boyfriend of four years broke up recently, but the situation was still sticky as he was still living with her (he was only thrown out into the living room, but that's mainly because she and the other roommate still needed him for rent). Within the past week though it was found out that he had been looking at her FB messages as well as her phone (including sending me a text as her), so naturally she was pissed. Because of this he's been staying at a friend's house and from what I've heard wants to stay as far away as possible. Of course, this girl just happens to be the cutest fucking girl I've ever met and we at least seem to enjoy each other's company, but apparently she doesn't want to get back into a relationship right now. That's understandable, but that was also what I was told before any of this was found out. Should I still try to take things slow with her, or should I try to make my move now?
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