Dating-Age |OT3| Positivity, Confidence, and Not Being a "Nice" Guy

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OT4 is fast approaching and I've yet to make any progress since OT1.

Great.

Make it your OT4 resolution to make some mad progress, man. You know GAF's got your back, and that's like half the battle right there.

Wow, I didn't even realize that this is OT3. Does it end at 20,000 posts?

Usually goes a tad over 20k posts, but yeah the thread will end after it exceeds that amount.

You should do a "last time, on DatingAge..." recap of OT3 in the OP of OT, Minamu. lol
 
Make it your OT4 resolution to make some mad progress, man. You know GAF's got your back, and that's like half the battle right there.
I should probably do the same. Talk to new people, chat with any girl I can (without being creepy or anything), try to socialize, start going to the gym, all that stuff that normal people do. I have a feeling I won't be able to do the first 3 things, but I'd like to try.

Fuck you shyness, fuck you right in the asshole.
 
Make it your OT4 resolution to make some mad progress, man. You know GAF's got your back, and that's like half the battle right there.

Usually goes a tad over 20k posts, but yeah the thread will end after it exceeds that amount.

You should do a "last time, on DatingAge..." recap of OT3 in the OP of OT, Minamu. lol
You think I should do the next thread? I do have the highest post count in here by far last I checked but I don't know. It's almost the only thread I frequently visit and post in but it's also taking away time from myself and it's almost like a part-time job sometimes :lol Edit: Some joint operation with cubsfan23 and/or nice people like Devolution would be cool though :)

So I got curious about this and went digging up OT1. It's been over 3 years since then.
Sweet jesus, it was started by Combine?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=17541860&postcount=1
Oh geez

I can decide if that was the worst poster for it or the best representation of the thread to come.
OT2 even had a reference to him in the thread title. He came back to this thread for a while I think but he got banned again for the same reason as last time, basically too much time spent on gaf complaining and not enough time spent irl on improving himself.
 
You think I should do the next thread? I do have the highest post count in here by far last I checked but I don't know. It's almost the only thread I frequently visit and post in but it's also taking away time from myself and it's almost like a part-time job sometimes :lol Edit: Some joint operation with cubsfan23 and/or nice people like Devolution would be cool though :)


Minamu
The EviLore of DatingAge
(Today, 08:58 PM)

You'd get my vote for it, I'd say. That said, don't do it if you don't want to! haha

RionaaM said:
I should probably do the same. Talk to new people, chat with any girl I can (without being creepy or anything), try to socialize, start going to the gym, all that stuff that normal people do. I have a feeling I won't be able to do the first 3 things, but I'd like to try.

Fuck you shyness, fuck you right in the asshole.

Seriously, fuck shyness man. If you take the initiative to actually approach girls confidently and simply talk to them then you've already beaten half of the dudes there. You're already setting yourself up for success.
 
Minamu
The EviLore of DatingAge
(Today, 08:58 PM)

You'd get my vote for it, I'd say. That said, don't do it if you don't want to! haha
Haha, I wonder what a future employer would think if they saw my gaf account with that tag xD It'd be cool to work on OT4 with Evilore though, or if he made it himself. Thanks for the vote, that's nice :) Sometimes I can get the feeling that our ways of thinking are too radical and not very well-received, but maybe.
 
Seriously, fuck shyness man. If you take the initiative to actually approach girls confidently and simply talk to them then you've already beaten half of the dudes there. You're already setting yourself up for success.
I hope you're right. Still, I'm not interesting so I wouldn't have anything to talk about, but maybe that comes with practice. The biggest problem right now is finding girls in the first place, as I rarely go out with friends nowadays. Well, maybe I'll get lucky and find some way...
 
So waiting to go on date #2, she was going to picking me up but phones me in tears and tells me she got a flat tire on her way over. Someone is coming to help her but they may be awhile. Damn that sucks. She still wants to go out tonight, so shes going to phone me later, but still this sucks.

I'm not use to girls calling me in tears, but I think I handled it alright because she wasn't crying anymore when the conversation ended.

Edit: She just phoned me. We're still going.
 
When within minutes of meeting a girl she starts making you roleplay the moments leading up to her grandfathers death, where you play her grandfather, and crying uncontrollably, it really should raise some red flags. Drunk Dean's ability to ignore his sense of better judgement works wonderfully again.
 
So I hung out with my girl who is a friend i've gone on dates with and learned a large amount of things (this is a girl who i can spend 4 hours straight talking with her about anything under the sun every single time we hang):

Girls like guys that are assholes (hey that haircut is nice, goes well with your fat ass)
Girls like guys that make them feel special (hey this guy with a nice singing voice who's super picky about singing, is complimenting me!)
Girls don't like nice guys because they aren't really confident (emotionally or sexually, ie they don't "give off the vibes")

I also learned that: I'm friendzoned (her words: "sorry that I friendzoned you"), and doesn't want to date anyone because "she likes being single" (likes all the guys hitting on her, again her words), she recently was lonely and took this guy's vcard and doesn't want to keep making bad decisions, and when she held off going into detail I went "well you already kind of made it weird because, full honesty here, I have class with him and I'm going to think wait she had sex with him and *points to myself, trailing off*" to which she replies "well I don't want to ruin our friendship"

But she was also realizing she was saying that "oh you're so attractive" and such in the same block of time. We talked about tons of shit like mentalities, differences in the way each gender thinks, etc.

My conclusions:
- girls are fucking stupid (in other words, they aren't logical and therefore they have a stupid way of thinking)
- girls don't know what they want until you show them that you're what they want
- girls are literally cats, you have to pet them and no other cat, then immediately turn around and ignore them. As soon as you give them too much attention they lose interest in you. (which is pretty much in line with what the girl was saying)

I went to leave and got out of the car to hug her because she hates awkward car hugs, and went "I know you said you just want to be friends, but can I still give you a kiss?"
"Would you be mad if I said no?"
I paused, and went in and kissed her once and walked off to my car anyways. She laughed and excitedly waved me goodbye from her car, and kept looking at me as she drove off.

I always listen to my gut (it's never wrong) and it tells me based on my reaction I did the right thing.

Oh and Wreck it Ralph is fucking amazing btw :p
 
Well this is kinda weird and awesome but im not sure what it means:

So a couple of weeks ago i met this girl, we kinda clicked, got her number etc. But as usual i tend to mess things up by texting too much. So yeah, the week after i got her number i drunkenly text her if shes in town, she wasnt but she said she was this wednessday. So i told her alright wednessday!

Wednessday came but i have to work on thursdays so i didnt sent her a text or anything, and neither did she, but i was hoping she would.

So the next weekend arrives, and i tell her we need to get some drinks together in an obvious drunk message. She replies with "yeah i'll have to ask some friends so i can stay over"(different town then mine) but she also jokingly says "is sundaynight your night out? Because i always get a message from you then :D"

Then i respond telling her i had no idea i was doing that, and told her to let me know when shes going out in my town again.


So last night i go to bed early didnt think she would send me anything. I wake up and got this message : "I dont depend on my own orgasms anymore, are you drunk as well?"


I have no idea what that means, am i overanalyzing shit with thinking .. hmm ... why doesnt she depend on her own orgams .. maybe because she has a boyfriend? But i really dont think she has one, she never mentioned it, and her FB profilepicture is just her(i dont have her on FB, but i looked it up :p)
 
Guy-gaf, have you ever overstepped your boundaries before, or felt like you did?

so recap, there's been this girl in my building who i get along pretty well with but she's pretty tough to figure out. She goes out but i can never get a bead on when she does - i've been thinking of asking her out but so far I couldn't think of anythin...

Anyway, tonight I see her at around 1 am at the bar me and my friends went to. Just as my friends leave (and I'm pretty drunk at this point) I see her and she's like "HI!" So me and her friends and I talk, i get them some drinks.

So I go home with a taxi with her, walk her drunk friend home from a diff bar, and then walk back to the place we live at (same building).

During that time we kissed on the lips (a bit of tongue) about 5 times and gave her a neck massage. She's also pretty drunk tho.

But... a few times I tried she didnt want to kiss, and i feel i overstepped it. Esp when I walked her to her room. There was a hug and I wanted to kiss but she di2dn't want to - avoiding it even.

We parted ways there but... man, I feel like if I just stopped at the last good kiss and stopped going for it, I won't feel like ass.

Am I overthinking this? It's nly been an hour ago, I'm sill a bit drunk and she was really drunk. Shold I worry or ... what should I do lol

Thanks!
 
Thanks for the advice guys, I went in for the hug when I met her and we starting kissing immediately. The third date went great for the most part. The date lasted about 6 hours which is the longest we've hung out. We went ice skating, out to eat and then drinks. Lots of flirting, touching, kissing etc during the date. We had an hours drive back to her place and she held my hand in her lap the entire time, rubbing my hand and lower arm area.

At the end of the date I walked her to the door. She invited me in, she pointed showing me her living room, but we never left the entryway of the house. We kissed here for a while, some touching, but when I tried to guide her body with mine towards the living room I felt some resistance so I stopped. I told her goodnight, that I had a good time, picked her up and kissed her one last time.

GAF, what are your thoughts on how this ended?
 
Guy-gaf, have you ever overstepped your boundaries before, or felt like you did?

so recap, there's been this girl in my building who i get along pretty well with but she's pretty tough to figure out. She goes out but i can never get a bead on when she does - i've been thinking of asking her out but so far I couldn't think of anythin...

Anyway, tonight I see her at around 1 am at the bar me and my friends went to. Just as my friends leave (and I'm pretty drunk at this point) I see her and she's like "HI!" So me and her friends and I talk, i get them some drinks.

So I go home with a taxi with her, walk her drunk friend home from a diff bar, and then walk back to the place we live at (same building).

During that time we kissed on the lips (a bit of tongue) about 5 times and gave her a neck massage. She's also pretty drunk tho.

But... a few times I tried she didnt want to kiss, and i feel i overstepped it. Esp when I walked her to her room. There was a hug and I wanted to kiss but she di2dn't want to - avoiding it even.

We parted ways there but... man, I feel like if I just stopped at the last good kiss and stopped going for it, I won't feel like ass.

Am I overthinking this? It's nly been an hour ago, I'm sill a bit drunk and she was really drunk. Shold I worry or ... what should I do lol

Thanks!

No man! Im pretty sure you're good. The reason she just hugged you in the end was because im pretty sure she did not want to have sex right away. And we all know kissing at the door of a girls room usually leads to the bed. So she is into you, but shes not a slut and didnt want to have sex right away.

Actually she probally did want it, but was afraid that you might consider her slutty.

Just talk to her again and ask her out if you're into her, im pretty sure she'll oblige.
 
So waiting to go on date #2, she was going to picking me up but phones me in tears and tells me she got a flat tire on her way over. Someone is coming to help her but they may be awhile. Damn that sucks. She still wants to go out tonight, so shes going to phone me later, but still this sucks.

I'm not use to girls calling me in tears, but I think I handled it alright because she wasn't crying anymore when the conversation ended.

Edit: She just phoned me. We're still going.
Always uncomfortable getting a call from someone in distress, especially a someone you're interested in. With that said, the fact that you guys still went out that night, primarily because she insisted and wanted to, really shows that she has a genuine interest in you, so take that to heart.

When within minutes of meeting a girl she starts making you roleplay the moments leading up to her grandfathers death, where you play her grandfather, and crying uncontrollably, it really should raise some red flags. Drunk Dean's ability to ignore his sense of better judgement works wonderfully again.
RED ALERT RED ALERT BAIL OUT.

Hilarious story though, man.

Well this is kinda weird and awesome but im not sure what it means:

So a couple of weeks ago i met this girl, we kinda clicked, got her number etc. But as usual i tend to mess things up by texting too much. So yeah, the week after i got her number i drunkenly text her if shes in town, she wasnt but she said she was this wednessday. So i told her alright wednessday!

Wednessday came but i have to work on thursdays so i didnt sent her a text or anything, and neither did she, but i was hoping she would.

So the next weekend arrives, and i tell her we need to get some drinks together in an obvious drunk message. She replies with "yeah i'll have to ask some friends so i can stay over"(different town then mine) but she also jokingly says "is sundaynight your night out? Because i always get a message from you then :D"

Then i respond telling her i had no idea i was doing that, and told her to let me know when shes going out in my town again.


So last night i go to bed early didnt think she would send me anything. I wake up and got this message : "I dont depend on my own orgasms anymore, are you drunk as well?"


I have no idea what that means, am i overanalyzing shit with thinking .. hmm ... why doesnt she depend on her own orgams .. maybe because she has a boyfriend? But i really dont think she has one, she never mentioned it, and her FB profilepicture is just her(i dont have her on FB, but i looked it up :p)
She was drunk. There's no point in analyzing her text to figure out some hidden, underlying message, cause there isn't one. How many times have you sent drunk text messages that don't mean anything at all? I know I've done it a lot. If anything I think she was just trying to start the conversation with an oddball statement. It's a good thing you didn't see it, cause if you texted her back asking what that meant, you'd immediately take the conversation into extremely awkward territory.

With all of that said, if there's one thing you can take away from this it's that she texted you while she was drunk, which means at some point, she was thinking about you. I think going forward, you need to back off on texting her and let her do the initiating. Honestly, I don't really think she's interested, but if she is and you back off from texting her, she'll initiate. If she isn't, she won't. It's that simple.

Good luck.

Guy-gaf, have you ever overstepped your boundaries before, or felt like you did?

so recap, there's been this girl in my building who i get along pretty well with but she's pretty tough to figure out. She goes out but i can never get a bead on when she does - i've been thinking of asking her out but so far I couldn't think of anythin...

Anyway, tonight I see her at around 1 am at the bar me and my friends went to. Just as my friends leave (and I'm pretty drunk at this point) I see her and she's like "HI!" So me and her friends and I talk, i get them some drinks.

So I go home with a taxi with her, walk her drunk friend home from a diff bar, and then walk back to the place we live at (same building).

During that time we kissed on the lips (a bit of tongue) about 5 times and gave her a neck massage. She's also pretty drunk tho.

But... a few times I tried she didnt want to kiss, and i feel i overstepped it. Esp when I walked her to her room. There was a hug and I wanted to kiss but she di2dn't want to - avoiding it even.

We parted ways there but... man, I feel like if I just stopped at the last good kiss and stopped going for it, I won't feel like ass.

Am I overthinking this? It's nly been an hour ago, I'm sill a bit drunk and she was really drunk. Shold I worry or ... what should I do lol

Thanks!
You're overthinking this. I mean, you tell me, how do you feel this morning now that you aren't drunk? Probably a lot better, right?

If anything, you should be happy about the fact that you guys hooked up. I think that says more than anything here. Besides, you were both drunk, so you can always just blame it on that if she brings it up (she won't). Of course, that excuse goes both ways, and she'd probably do the same if you brought it up (don't).

Regardless, just play it cool, act like nothing happened. See how she acts towards you and use that to jumpstart your direction going forward.
 
Hmmmm...I'm in a bit of a pickle. Not necessarily a *bad* position per say, but an uncomfortable one. I more or less know what I need to do, but hope typing this out (and maybe advice) will help with the execution :p

I've been seeing three women recently (haven't been on more than three dates with any of them). One I don't plan to see again, one I'm on the fence about and another I like but don't really know if I'd call her "relationship material" ATM. Anyway, the latter sent me a text after I dropped her off asking if I want to be in a relationship with her (she does).

I do not get emotionally attached to someone easily. It takes time. I will tell her that I'm not at the point yet, but I do not know if I should say that I'm open to it down the road (or something to that effect). She has indicated that she's getting rather attached to me (so fast!), which is worrisome, as I have no idea whether it will "click" for me down the road. Her English also isn't great (it's cute now and we can definitely communicate, but our conversations are going to be limited, which may ware thin). So do I indicate that there could be something long term, or do I just say I'm not there yet and see how she reacts?

I need to respond pretty quickly to her text (she says no rush but we all know what that means :p ).
 
Hmmmm...I'm in a bit of a pickle. Not necessarily a *bad* position per say, but an uncomfortable one. I more or less know what I need to do, but hope typing this out (and maybe advice) will help with the execution :p

I've been seeing three women recently (haven't been on more than three dates with any of them). One I don't plan to see again, one I'm on the fence about and another I like but don't really know if I'd call her "relationship material" ATM. Anyway, the latter sent me a text after I dropped her off asking if I want to be in a relationship with her (she does).

I do not get emotionally attached to someone easily. It takes time. I will tell her that I'm not at the point yet, but I do not know if I should say that I'm open to it down the road (or something to that effect). She has indicated that she's getting rather attached to me (so fast!), which is worrisome, as I have no idea whether it will "click" for me down the road. Her English also isn't great (it's cute now and we can definitely communicate, but our conversations are going to be limited, which may ware thin). So do I indicate that there could be something long term, or do I just say I'm not there yet and see how she reacts?

I need to respond pretty quickly to her text (she says no rush but we all know what that means :p ).

Be open and honest.
 
Cute girl texts me...
"_________ club tonight?"

I'm kind of shocked so...
"Did you mean to send this to me?"

"LOL, yeah. My boyfriend's friend is in town and wants to go a club."

...
 
Some of these dating websites are ridiculous.... i have to pay a monthly fee to be able to send or read messages, yet the account creation is still free. Yeah, it's really fun to look at all these cute girls and not being able to do anything unless I pay 20-40$ a month. I had this girl who sent me a message, but nope. Can't read unless I pay.

Good thing they're not all like that.
 
You think I should do the next thread? I do have the highest post count in here by far last I checked but I don't know. It's almost the only thread I frequently visit and post in but it's also taking away time from myself and it's almost like a part-time job sometimes :lol Edit: Some joint operation with cubsfan23 and/or nice people like Devolution would be cool though :)


OT2 even had a reference to him in the thread title. He came back to this thread for a while I think but he got banned again for the same reason as last time, basically too much time spent on gaf complaining and not enough time spent irl on improving himself.

Make it with cubsfans last post about nice guys in the OP. If you want a banner or something I'm down to make it or whatever.
 
You're overthinking this. I mean, you tell me, how do you feel this morning now that you aren't drunk? Probably a lot better, right?

If anything, you should be happy about the fact that you guys hooked up. I think that says more than anything here. Besides, you were both drunk, so you can always just blame it on that if she brings it up (she won't). Of course, that excuse goes both ways, and she'd probably do the same if you brought it up (don't).

Regardless, just play it cool, act like nothing happened. See how she acts towards you and use that to jumpstart your direction going forward.

No man! Im pretty sure you're good. The reason she just hugged you in the end was because im pretty sure she did not want to have sex right away. And we all know kissing at the door of a girls room usually leads to the bed. So she is into you, but shes not a slut and didnt want to have sex right away.

Actually she probally did want it, but was afraid that you might consider her slutty.

Just talk to her again and ask her out if you're into her, im pretty sure she'll oblige.





Thanks for the advice guys!
 
I didn't see her for an extended four-five year period in that decade and I haven't seen or heard from her since January until today. I kind of did and don't want to go out and open up old wounds. Duh?

Ok, sorry I misunderstood. I definitely agree that there is no reason for you to go to a club with her.
 
I think I've determined that I'm going to let her contact me first before I try to set something up with her again. I'm guaranteed to see her on tuesday and wednesday in group settings and I really have just been thinking about it too much. Need to chill.

1000 posts left in this thread
 
Make it with cubsfans last post about nice guys in the OP. If you want a banner or something I'm down to make it or whatever.
I might just do it then :) If no one else wants it. I'll look into what needs to be said. If anyone have suggestions, feel free to post them or send a pm!
 
I might just do it then :) If no one else wants it. I'll look into what needs to be said. If anyone have suggestions, feel free to post them or send a pm!

There was interesting stuff in the 2nd OT, might be worth checking and reusing the best parts (keeping the advice practical instead of going for generalizations) instead of just linking people there.
 
There was interesting stuff in the 2nd OT, might be worth checking and reusing the best parts (keeping the advice practical instead of going for generalizations) instead of just linking people there.
Yes, I will check this op and the previous one for ideas and probably do a scan of the pages in this one for golden nuggets. You wouldn't happen to have a link to OT2?
 
Missed a good opportunity to get this girls number at a party. Was too drunk to remember to do it, but I did remember to add her on Facebook.

I feel like we hit it off decently well and apparently from a mutual friend we have similar tastes.

My issue is I have to take care of my own personal issues (body image, confidence issues), but I did get some good drunken advice, so at least that's a bit of help.

It also was the first time I didn't feel out of place at a party. So another plus.
 
So a girl and I messaged each other a few times over OKC. Exchanged numbers and we decided to set up a date. Problem is she's gone for about 8 more days with Thanksgiving Break, back home out of state. We only texted on Thursday when we got each other's number. Should I start texting her or let her make the first move since it's her break?
 
There's a link in this thread's OP.
Thanks :)

So a girl and I messaged each other a few times over OKC. Exchanged numbers and we decided to set up a date. Problem is she's gone for about 8 more days with Thanksgiving Break, back home out of state. We only texted on Thursday when we got each other's number. Should I start texting her or let her make the first move since it's her break?
If the two of you have decided on a specific date, I'd wait and assume it's still on. She would probably appreciate it if you texted her but it's very easy to overdo it and soon there won't be a need for a getting to know each orher date.
 
I hope you're right. Still, I'm not interesting so I wouldn't have anything to talk about, but maybe that comes with practice. The biggest problem right now is finding girls in the first place, as I rarely go out with friends nowadays. Well, maybe I'll get lucky and find some way...

Just go out and meet people. I have a fun date planned with a really cute girl I met last night.

Literally just approach people and talk, and focus on having fun. Being someone you're not and attempting to be Mr. Charming will make you uncomfortable, and people know when you are uncomfortable. You have to be natural, and be yourself. Just talk about anything. Lead off of what others are talking about and take it into a new direction. Laugh and smile, and have a good time.

You can do it, man. Anyone can. Don't focus on picking people up, but rather on just enjoying yourself and those around you. If it happens, it happens. If you have a good feeling about someone, take it. See where it takes you. You have NOTHING to lose by trying, right? Absolutely nothing.

Go out there and be the man, man.
 
If the two of you have decided on a specific date, I'd wait and assume it's still on. She would probably appreciate it if you texted her but it's very easy to overdo it and soon there won't be a need for a getting to know each orher date.

We have no date yet but I didn't tell her my schedule yet for next, next week. She did ask if I was up for meeting when she got back though.
 
So I have multiple stuff on back-burners set to low and at times things seem to come together but somehow they go back to the burner soon after. Just can't break over the hump with any of them. I got as far as making out with one for a good amount of time. Didn't go any further. I'm blaming school being hectic though.
 
Found my ex's DVD. I'd like to give it back. How?

Through a friend might be the best way, no need to make a bad situation worse.

Although if you have the contact of such a hypothetical common friend, you might want to use that to find out if she's gotten a replacement since then. I left a couple of books at a friend with benefits' place years ago and after things got sour I bought replacements (they were good books and not that expensive, might as well bless stores that bothered to have them with my patronage :P ) - not that long ago she contacted me about returning them, to which I replied I'd replaced them with as much civility as I could - I figure she might want to do more than return stuff, but that's a past situation of my life I really didn't feel like going back to.
 
Following on from my first date escapades, I managed to scrape through a second date with this girl that I met on a dating site. It seemed to go really well (I did have to down a third of a bottle of vodka beforehand to build up some liquid courage). I'm not an obvious drunk so this isn't where I went wrong.

I managed to get the wax-to-hair ratio spot on, wore my new leather jacket and felt like I aced the date. At the end, I walked her to her car, made her laugh and we fooled around for a while. It was pretty hot. We both had a really solid time.

I messaged her a couple of days later (I was surprised she hadn't contacted me before then as she seemed interested). She vaguely indicated loose availability the following week for a third date. It seemed clear that I'd misinterpreted her interest so I backed off completely.

I figured that I still have a gaming backlog built up over twenty years to get through, so if a girl that I've hung out with a couple of times has lost interest...it's not a big deal.

No further contact was made that week that until she messaged me late on Saturday night asking what I was up to. I didn't feel like heading out (it was midnight) as I was getting into Halo 4, so I just sent back a dirty text message to brush her off and wished her a goodnight. She "LOL'd" in response and wished me the same.

I sent her a message the following Tuesday to indicate my availability and to see if she wanted to catch a movie or come over for a Walking Dead session for that third date....and I haven't heard back from her since (it's been a week now).

I logged onto the dating site that we met on to deactivate my account this weekend (which was the first time I'd been on there since I met her) and noticed her online. I made myself 'visible/online' to see what she'd do and she immediately logged off. That was the only real indicator I needed.

Either way, I have games to play. It's been real Dating Age thread. I've realised that girls go in the too hard basket (once more). As great as it was to get a bit of boob for the first time in eons, the effort required for a "non-Brad Pitt" to achieve that is borderline ridiculous. Yeah it's possible if you play the game. But the amount of effort, time and money required to be invested is absurd when you compare it to other forms of media/entertainment.

I'm going to drink some scotch, do some weights, ignore the fact that I have to review the source code for an operating system tomorrow morning and crank up the Scott Pilgrim vs The World: The Game OST.
 
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