evil solrac v3.0
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Batmurder with his M60 ready to body the criminals of Gotham. lol
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edit: that's a shotgun Batman is holding FYI.
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.................ellipses....................ellipses everywhere!
edit: that's a shotgun Batman is holding FYI.
Guess makes sense with JL filming soon, but seems Wonder Woman has wrapped
They filmed for 7 months?
So who's Hippolyta in the film? Who's Ares? Circe? Hades?
Did they cast any of those characters?
broncobuster
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Connie Nielsen is Hippolyta.
Other three? Maybe Danny Huston, Robin Wright, and David Thewlis. We know the actors, not the roles.
7 months?
Nov, Dec, Jan, Feb, March
If you count mid-Nov to mid-March closer to 4 months
Also new magazine cover
Kenzodielocke
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Wonder Woman is going to be an important movie for this industry. Hope it is good and does well.
Schweinehund
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WW needs some good villains. Really just Circe, Hades, Ares & Cheetah are the only ones I can think of off the top of my head. First Born was basically WW's doomsday.
If Jenkins has a good idea for a new villain, I'd hope they let her run with it.
If Jenkins has a good idea for a new villain, I'd hope they let her run with it.
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Lord Virgin
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I hope she is badass, please don't fuck her up.
I hope she is badass, please don't fuck her up.
Not sure If I hate this potryal of Wonder Woman or not.
Meus Renaissance
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Almost every promotion/footage that has come from this movie has been based on the fight between these two one rainy night. With Man of Steel, we had sneak previews of a variety of different scenes set at different locations involving different characters. This is true for many films when showcasing trailers.
What gives, Warner Bros? Are you this insecure about the film that you need to continuously remind us Superman and Batman fight in order to sell the movie? The name, the posters, the trailers are make it seem like the entire movie will be these two fighting for a night. But that apparently is just one encounter in an early Act of the story.
The written previews, however, give an impression of a story built around dialogue and character development. To me, the best clips have been of Clark and Bruce actually talking - not fighting in their costumes. Am I wrong?
Give us some scenes on Clark doing some investigative journalism on Bruce Wayne, or Batman stalking Clark Kent from roof tops. Remember that mystery photograph in Superman Returns that hinted at that?
Whenever I see the same promotional material, I get a little worried about that this film will fee like the last Act of Man of Steel.
Eh It makes sense for Wonder Woman and even Superman to kill given the threat. Batman and Flash are the only main roster members where I draw the line with murder.
No, this is WB listening to people who consider anything that isn't Batman fighting Superman footage as some sort of false advertising.
The CW Flash clearly didn't get the memo then. He's racked up quite the body count this season. It's been weird. I keep hoping they fully address this before the season is over.
Earth 2 Metahumans aren't real people
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Lord Virgin
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Nah, as far as I'm concerned all JL members kill. The no killing rule is dumb af and makes no sense (well except for being able to return the villains). Love brutal WW, just get shit done.
She's a warrior, if she has to kill she'll do it, but I don't know if they'll follow that aspect of her in the DCEU. Remember that WW villains are mostly gods or really powerful almost unkillable enemies.
When WB deviated just a bit from the titular conflict and showed Doomsday the mouth breathing nerds jumped on them, so they switched back and focused entirely on Batman/Superman conflict.
Rodger Dodger
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I think it's the opposite actually.
It allows them to hide most of the movie (contrary to those, I feel like I've seen most of the movie people) but still have something exciting to show.
It's more confidence that this is good enough without showing you everything ahead of time.
Yeah, it's weird how easily they kill Earth-2 metas, but lock up the Earth-1 metas
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Lord Virgin
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Do those people dislike that these specific characters kill or just the heroes in general?
From a marketing standpoint, how could you not go all in with Batman v Superman the fight? Like a boxing match.
From a marketing standpoint, how could you not go all in with Batman v Superman the fight? Like a boxing match.
Kenzodielocke
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Yes, feel the same as Penguin. I don't really know what happens between the fight and this is a good thing imo.
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Lord Virgin
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Well, we know what happens after the fight. Remember that guy on Twitter saying there is a moment between the two that would make the most cynical tear up?
Marvel's doing the same thing with Civil War. In the two trailers, we've effectively got only three scenes. Conference room, airport, and bunker with of a couple of split second shots of other scenes.
KDash31987
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Every live-action Batman in a movie besides George Clooney killed someone. Adam West kicked a guy out of existence, Michael Keaton killed dozens of goons and caused the death of The Joker, Val Kilmer killed Two-Face by throwing a bunch of coins at him while he was standing on a narrow beam, and Christian Bale caused the deaths of Ra's, Two-Face, and Talia.
Superman II appeared to have Superman kill Zod, though a deleted scene seemed to show them being taken away to prison in the background while Superman, Lois, and Lex talked outside of the Fortress of Solitude. But in both final versions the actual movie, it certainly seems like Zod and his crew did not survive...while Superman and Lois smiled about it. And then of course Henry Cavill's Superman killed Zod in Man of Steel (which he was not happy about).
Not DC, but the Avengers have killed a ton of people in the Marvel Cinematic Universe.
Not according to that latest trailer, lol
evil solrac v3.0
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Well, we know what happens after the fight. Remember that guy on Twitter saying there is a moment between the two that would make the most cynical tear up?
what is up with Bruce's feet?
I hope she is badass, please don't fuck her up.
This panel is full of shit. Diana will fuck up some mindless mooks like Parademons, but like all heroes, she generally avoids killing her Rogues.
A key tenet of her character in her N52 book is that she tries to avoid killing. She either talks every antagonist down, tricks them, or locks them away.
My personal belief, secret identities and the "no-kill" tropes, are the two hardest things from comic to translate intelligently.
We're just accustom to movies having bows tied on them... which usually means the villain put away or killed.
We don't wanna go through the process of them being led away so we kill em.
The most glaring example to me is the Spider-man franchise
1st movie - Villain has to commit suicide. I know it's comic accurate, but I've always been curious even if the glider impaled Spidey, it would still go through Goblin!
2nd movie - Villain decides to commit suicide to save the world.
3rd movie - One villain commits suicide via jumping into a bomb for some reason. The other is "set free" by the hero which I think was utterly dumb.
TASM - Villain depowered and jailed
TASM 2 - They kill the villain through power overload. Harry is jailed or whatever.
Begins - We get the weird logic "I don't have to kill you, but don't need to save you either."
Forever - Toss coins, woops he fell to his death. Not my fault!
We're just accustom to movies having bows tied on them... which usually means the villain put away or killed.
We don't wanna go through the process of them being led away so we kill em.
The most glaring example to me is the Spider-man franchise
1st movie - Villain has to commit suicide. I know it's comic accurate, but I've always been curious even if the glider impaled Spidey, it would still go through Goblin!
2nd movie - Villain decides to commit suicide to save the world.
3rd movie - One villain commits suicide via jumping into a bomb for some reason. The other is "set free" by the hero which I think was utterly dumb.
TASM - Villain depowered and jailed
TASM 2 - They kill the villain through power overload. Harry is jailed or whatever.
Begins - We get the weird logic "I don't have to kill you, but don't need to save you either."
Forever - Toss coins, woops he fell to his death. Not my fault!
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Lord Virgin
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Which I kinda find boring, love how the MCU is basically not giving a shit. Cap probably killed more people with his bare hands than Supes/Zod did while fighting. This line from Bruce kinda sums it up in TDKR: ''all the people I've murdered, by letting you live'',,,,yeah at the end of the day it's basically what the writers want. Like a competent police force or government that is able to lock the villains up for good. Or just killing the villain. Give me the latter.
I basically put you in this situation that will most likely mean your end, but I didn't kill you!
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Lord Virgin
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Alright, so there is this new theme in the soundtrack. Used in a couple of tracks (like at the end of Black and Blue), a piano tune (accompanied by a choir iirc). Anyone know what I'm talking about? Fucking love it. Also used in one of the very first tracks.
BossDarkseid
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I saw that the 274 is a reference to an Avengers cover with Zemo, or maybe a Captain issue but it's like...come the fuck on. In Serkovia at least 100s should have died, same with Avengers. When Cap said you can't save everyone I was expecting a body count equivalent to a small war over the course of the movies. It's a cute reference but it kinda falls flat.
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Lord Virgin
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It's also in Beautiful Lie. You think it's the Bruce Wayne theme? Could be. Sounds fucking amazing, whatever it is.Really digging all of them, the more I listen to it.
Simo
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Lord Virgin
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Listening to "This is my World"
Jup, how about Day of the dead? Goosebumps, playing it on repeat.
broncobuster
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Not a fan of the film but The Incredible Hulk gives a plausible explanation why Hulk didn't kill Abomination. Made it about Banner retaining his humanity, exercising control over the Hulk. Not that Hulk hasn't killed at other points in the MCU. All the Avengers do, even Ant-Man. Don't take issue with it myself.
Batman is the only character where I don't see it as logical reason; more of a compulsion. From time to time they frame it as a slippery slope, not becoming a villain himself. Don't know about that. Always peculiar how there's no grey between Punisher killing everybody and never ever killing.
Schweinehund
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tbh the less of the doomsday fight I see the better. I imagine it's mostly self contained, so showing more of that fight would be practically spoiling the climax.
I imagine most casual fans are interested in the BvS aspect, but WB is intelligent enough to understand that they need to sell people on heroes not named Batman & Superman, so they put in a trinity (? or more) fight. I'm actually looking more forward to the trinity fight then I am BvS. That doesn't mean the fight won't be cool or satisfactory.
Honestly I'd hate it if DC wasted a movie on just Batman v Superman, there's so many cool villains they can use. I'm tired of hero v hero, I want good villains. Zod was refreshing. I don't expect Doomsday to be some compelling villain, but all accounts point to Lex being a central figure in the film.
DC's issue has always been marketing. So many cool characters that never get a chance because they don't get the proper lead in. Every time I recommend a DC comic to someone I try to veer towards non batman stuff because most people have it ingrained in their mind already that Batman is DC and vice versa.
I imagine most casual fans are interested in the BvS aspect, but WB is intelligent enough to understand that they need to sell people on heroes not named Batman & Superman, so they put in a trinity (? or more) fight. I'm actually looking more forward to the trinity fight then I am BvS. That doesn't mean the fight won't be cool or satisfactory.
Honestly I'd hate it if DC wasted a movie on just Batman v Superman, there's so many cool villains they can use. I'm tired of hero v hero, I want good villains. Zod was refreshing. I don't expect Doomsday to be some compelling villain, but all accounts point to Lex being a central figure in the film.
DC's issue has always been marketing. So many cool characters that never get a chance because they don't get the proper lead in. Every time I recommend a DC comic to someone I try to veer towards non batman stuff because most people have it ingrained in their mind already that Batman is DC and vice versa.
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Well DC has not helped matters at all .Everytime DC confronts a failure when pushing a non Batman character it pushes the Batman panic button. To be fair BVS will most likely not have happened if MOS had received critical acclaim. We would have had a solo Batman film and a sequel to MOS by now.
Well DC has not helped matters at all .Everytime DC confronts a failure when pushing a non Batman character it pushes the Batman panic button. To be fair BVS will most likely not have happened if MOS had received critical acclaim. We would have had a solo Batman film and a sequel to MOS by now.
It's got to be a trip to work at Midtown, I feel like half of the actors who ever get cast in superhero roles make a pit stop there.
GringoSuave89
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Hard to believe a week from Monday I finally get to see this movie.... unreal
Major Gripex
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I'm still in denial. Part of me thinks WB will push it back another year.
This is nothing.
Wait until the 1 week until Justice League release.
That wait will be terrible.
Well DC has not helped matters at all .Everytime DC confronts a failure when pushing a non Batman character it pushes the Batman panic button. To be fair BVS will most likely not have happened if MOS had received critical acclaim. We would have had a solo Batman film and a sequel to MOS by now.
I'm not sure I buy that, if they wanted to do a shared universe involving all these DC properties they had to introduce Batman sooner or later, and WB owns DC so there's no need to talk to others studios and convince them to lend their characters like Marvel had to do with Spidey. If Marvel and Sony could've worked something out before TASM1 they would've introduce him a lot sooner than CW.
Batman is just too big to sit out a couple of to these movies in a shared universe. What they did with the whole established history and him operating in Gotham for awhile before MoS even took place (talking about in this universe) was perfect, it immeadiately liberates the character from an origin story and there's a blank space before MoS that you can fill up with a movie (for instance a movie about what really happened to Robin)
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