Schweinehund
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I think WW could use more of a character movie than action. The public knows what WW is but they don't know who she is.
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DC Cinematic Universe |OT| Superfriends with Benefits
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so correct me if i'm wrong, but MacLaren wanted her Wonder Woman movie to have
- Talking tiger sidekick
- 4 different outfits for Diana
- World War 1 setting
- Damsel in distress type Steve Trevor.
- Less action
and WB said no. right?
well I think they were right dropping her, this seems to be like Superman Lives/Batman and Robin kind of a clusterfuck.
- Talking tiger sidekick
- 4 different outfits for Diana
- World War 1 setting
- Damsel in distress type Steve Trevor.
- Less action
and WB said no. right?
well I think they were right dropping her, this seems to be like Superman Lives/Batman and Robin kind of a clusterfuck.
Future Foundation
Member
I think McLaren wanted more action.
I think it was 6 outfits including a scuba-suit, more action, and the WB didn't say "No" initially....
Tthey provided notes- like they do for all directors- but gave her a chance to convince them with her own script-treatment and let her run pre-production for a bit. The WB is open to being convinced, but after a while she wasn't able to. They liked different scripts better than hers and it seemed like she wasn't getting the hang of big-budget pre-production fast enough.
Doesn't mean she wouldn't be great at it under a different studio, different pace, or different system... but under their system, for her first attempt at this cutting her teeth on big budget, she wasn't a good fit. Honestly, if she was flying through pre-production, churning out good stuff, I think the studio would have let her do her take.
It doesn't mean they don't issue notes... even Billion-Dollar-Bringer Whedon says he was questioned on everything on Avengers 2. Being challenged or questioned doesn't mean they necessarily veto you unless / until it seems like you can't do the job they expected.
unholyrevenger72
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Well Diana can communicate with animals, i guess she wanted full on Doctor Doolittle
If BvS is as good as the rumors suggest then I am more than fine with that.
Major Gripex
Member
From Snyder's Twitter:
Does this possibly mean something for BvS?
Ha ha ha, the jokes on you Batman #cryptic #75th
Does this possibly mean something for BvS?
EdibleKnife
Member
I think he might just be showing support. It's possible that Batman might take a visit to Arkham to see the joker in BvS or something though.
So I haven't been in the Joker thread since I replied...how bad is it?
Pretty split. Much like everything DCCU related.
Maybe update the release dates. I think most of them have been announced.
TheKaeptain
Banned
Go into the MoS vs TDKR thread and look at the poll.
I was going to... but officially none of the release dates and movies are connected beyond BvS/Suicide Squad.
Though one could guess on WW/JL1
GringoSuave89
Banned
If we go by the previously announced placeholder dates, and the way the films were listed off in the shareholders event, we kinda do.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DC_Comics'_shared_universe_films#Films
http://www.slashfilm.com/dc-movie-slate-revealed/
Jeff Sneider from the wrap tweeted that James Wan is going to direct Aquaman. A rumor obviously.
https://twitter.com/TheInSneider/status/593571039273099265
https://twitter.com/TheInSneider/status/593571039273099265
GringoSuave89
Banned
I literally just read he was being considered to do Robotech or Voltron or something like that, so who the fuck knows haha
Actually wish would cool down
I just feel like June's gonna be unbearable as we wait for San Diego.
EdibleKnife
Member
I honestly don't know how I can be salty about any of this. They all look terrific. I really want to see how they play against Batfleck.
I'm sure Green Arrow is out there somewhere, but Katana isn't necessarily a guarantee of that. I think WB/DC is trying to push Katana more. Makes sense, as she's one of their few Asian female characters.
I expect her to join the Justice League in the sequel. Or hell, maybe they'll switch it up and she'll be in the first film.
Something that came to me in light of leaks of Wondy and Harley, DC could really sell itself on it's stable of women.
Not only do they have alot of heroes AND villains who are female they're all visually distinct and begging to be put on screen.
Much as I appreciated Nolan's movies we might actually be able to get some of the more off the wall heavies like Poison Ivy.
The other mortal tribe of Amazons (in the Sahara?).
Circe could be glorious if pulled off with the right actress.
The current cartoon Teen Titans lineup would clean the fuck up as a movie.
I hope beyond hope we actually get there but I can't wait to see the Furies and Barda in all their glory.
My opinion at least.
Not only do they have alot of heroes AND villains who are female they're all visually distinct and begging to be put on screen.
Much as I appreciated Nolan's movies we might actually be able to get some of the more off the wall heavies like Poison Ivy.
The other mortal tribe of Amazons (in the Sahara?).
Circe could be glorious if pulled off with the right actress.
The current cartoon Teen Titans lineup would clean the fuck up as a movie.
I hope beyond hope we actually get there but I can't wait to see the Furies and Barda in all their glory.
My opinion at least.
Poodlestrike
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Barda would absolutely destroy. Seriously, how great would that be? Plus, she and Scott tie in nicely to Darkseid. We could get a New Gods movie... drool.
Agreed about the more general point as well. Even as early as Suicide Squad, DC does seem to be bringing the heat in terms of diversity.
Agreed about the more general point as well. Even as early as Suicide Squad, DC does seem to be bringing the heat in terms of diversity.
If I'm not mistaken, there were a couple of attempts in the 80s to get a New Gods movie off the ground. I can't remember if it was in Supergods or Mark Evanier's Kirby biography that I saw that. So there's definitely precedent for interest in bringing the Fourth World to the big screen.
Sibersk Esto
Banned
New Gods needs a movie. To me the New Gods are the best in their own world, mostly separate from the DC universe.
Poodlestrike
Banned
Maybe wedged between JL1 and JL2? Setting up Darkseid. Maybe even make it a "villain wins" thing, really give the guy some panache.
Sibersk Esto
Banned
The problem with the New Gods is that they are literally too smart for DC comics. I would even say they don't deserve it. The endless years spent shafting everyone but Darkseid, and then having the gall to make him job to the likes of fucking Doomsday disgusts me.
Also, there's a reason Orion is supposed to be the one to beat Darkseid. He isn't a Superman villain, as much as I like Superman
Also, there's a reason Orion is supposed to be the one to beat Darkseid. He isn't a Superman villain, as much as I like Superman
Major Gripex
Member
New Gods, if done right, would be WB's answer to Disney's Star Wars. Hell, I could even see them take a Guardians of the Galaxy approach. Anyway they do it, as long as it happens because a New Gods movie would be awesome.
The best thing about the Fourth World is it's so character rich they could absolutely have it standalone as a film franchise and not be connected to the DCCU. You have the inhabitants of Apokolips, New Genesis, as well as the Forever People on Earth. There is a ton you can do there without involving superheroes. How great would a Big Barda/Mr Miracle movie be? Or an Orion solo movie?
The only thing standing in the way of keeping the New Gods separate is DC is absolutely going to want to have Darkseid and his forces face the JLA in a movie.
As for DC and women, they and Marvel both have wonderful female characters. But DC is in the advantageous position of not having the Disney Princesses standing in the way of them utilizing them fully like Marvel does. Cause as we know, that's the main thing standing in the way of Black Widow getting a movie and causing Gamora and BW to be left out of merch: Disney don't need them.
Obviously they've got "the big gun" in Wonder Woman. We've also seen that Suicide Squad will have four female characters, all of whom could potentially appear in later movies. And while she's not currently cast, you know "Aquaman" is going to serve us all the Mera we can handle.
One thing I've been wondering is how open would people be to Green Lantern - the only leaguer who hasn't been cast - being left out of the first JLA movie to have a female character take his spot. Mind you, this already happened on JL/JLU, except it was Aquaman who got bumped for Hawkgirl.
They've got a few to choose from. There's Katana, who will already be introduced in Suicide Squad. Mera, who's easy enough to explain with Arthur there. There's also Black Canary, who is already popular and has been on the league several times (including once being a founding member). If that one actress truly is Carrie Kelly, it could be a fun way to introduce Robin. And there's the dark horses of Zatanna and Vixen.
As for DC and women, they and Marvel both have wonderful female characters. But DC is in the advantageous position of not having the Disney Princesses standing in the way of them utilizing them fully like Marvel does. Cause as we know, that's the main thing standing in the way of Black Widow getting a movie and causing Gamora and BW to be left out of merch: Disney don't need them.
Obviously they've got "the big gun" in Wonder Woman. We've also seen that Suicide Squad will have four female characters, all of whom could potentially appear in later movies. And while she's not currently cast, you know "Aquaman" is going to serve us all the Mera we can handle.
One thing I've been wondering is how open would people be to Green Lantern - the only leaguer who hasn't been cast - being left out of the first JLA movie to have a female character take his spot. Mind you, this already happened on JL/JLU, except it was Aquaman who got bumped for Hawkgirl.
They've got a few to choose from. There's Katana, who will already be introduced in Suicide Squad. Mera, who's easy enough to explain with Arthur there. There's also Black Canary, who is already popular and has been on the league several times (including once being a founding member). If that one actress truly is Carrie Kelly, it could be a fun way to introduce Robin. And there's the dark horses of Zatanna and Vixen.
Queen Mera, to you!
Remember, people in the DCU can't get married, so she's just a consort.
...Although...People do still call her Queen. So I guess the queen is just whoever Aquaman is shacking up with.
http://collider.com/tom-hardy-taboo-filming-dc-comics-movie-tv-series/
HARDY: I actually got something cooking with Warner Bros. which is also a comic book, its a DC thing which is kind of
HARDY: Its really good actually, it contains elements of all kinds of stuff. From Oceans Eleven, to Batman, you can get all the wrappers out and it would be a big, really cool, Technicolor, Pulp Fiction Its a psychological fuckfest, its absolutely awesome. Its as if you would take Transmetropolitan and make it happen, but its not that out there its something which is much more real world. It could be like Heat, it could be fucking awesome. Let me tell you what it is, try and guess.
HARDY: I actually got something cooking with Warner Bros. which is also a comic book, its a DC thing which is kind of
HARDY: Its really good actually, it contains elements of all kinds of stuff. From Oceans Eleven, to Batman, you can get all the wrappers out and it would be a big, really cool, Technicolor, Pulp Fiction Its a psychological fuckfest, its absolutely awesome. Its as if you would take Transmetropolitan and make it happen, but its not that out there its something which is much more real world. It could be like Heat, it could be fucking awesome. Let me tell you what it is, try and guess.
Poodlestrike
Banned
Heist movie, Batman movie, Pulp Fiction... I swear he's describing Suicide Squad
But since it's not that, I got nothin'
Schweinehund
Member
secret six with bane?
no idear.
no idear.
I know for a fact that Warners are developing a New Gods and, at one point, it had a lot of momentum at the studio. I believe that there some speculation that a major director was interested in the project and it was 'heating up' as a result.
When the rumours that Darkseid would feature in a Justice League film started I though that WB might introduce him in a New Gods film and then send him to battle Batman etc. When Warners announced their DCU line up and there was no New Gods film it was clear the project had either lost its momentum at the studio or might be 'spun off' from Darkseid's introduction via the Justice League.
I read the article three times and could barely make head nor tails of it. If I had to guess I'd say that it's a Vertigo project (such as Fables or Planetary) or it's something new that we haven't seen or heard about yet.
But the suggestion that it could be a film and a companion TV series is really intriguing.
Heist movie, Batman movie, Pulp Fiction... I swear he's describing Suicide Squad
But since it's not that, I got nothin'
I don't think they're doing it, but my dream would be a Chase / Manhunter series. Chase is basically the X-Files of the DCU, working for the DEO, and Manhunter is "What if Daredevil was Punisher and Jessica Jones?" Sort of. Really "realistic" stuff but with the capacity to go really weird really quickly, lead by strong female protagonists.
Seeing a live action Mr Bones would be really weird.
GringoSuave89
Banned
I would want a Black Mask before Mr Bones. Give me a comic accurate Under the Red Hood.
I'm the opposite, I'd rather see fringe characters before getting bogged down in Bat stuff.
Corpsepyre
Banned
Maybe Tom Hardy is talking about a Doom Patrol adaptation.
....Yeah.
....Yeah.
Schweinehund
Member
Fans wanting Tom Hardy as Swamp Thing... I'm behind that 110%.
If he is in JLD I'm more hyped for that than JL.
If he is in JLD I'm more hyped for that than JL.
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