literally parroting Faraci's speculation and nothng else.
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Major Gripex
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Farcey rumor is source so...
KonradLaw
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Lol..Aquaman without Wan would probably crash and burn. It seems like by far the hardest of DC projects to make and if you're going to quickly find a new director, one who has to work with what the previous one left, I doubt you will get somebody great and you really need a great director to pull it off.
KonradLaw
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SJRB
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I really, really expect [and hope, if I'm honest] that the director's cut of BvS will make things right. How can it not?
So he quote tweeted about The Flash director quitting without ever having said anything about it before. I don't believe that a guy like him can sit on such information without gleefully spreading it around. And now he's pushing a whole new fabricated narrative that this is the "first of the aftershocks". I don't get how someone with a popular website and 30K+ Twitter followers can be such a petty, vindictive fanboy. It's utterly baffling to me.
this fucking guy
Great read. As I said several times in the past, I really believe that Snyder always had the idea of showing us a conflicted Superman walking the path of becoming "the real Superman" we all know, and I also believe that most viewers don't care or just don't want to think for a couple of minutes about the story they're being told, but instead focusing they're efforts in "OMG Hack Snyder" and shit like that.
By the way, saw Superman vs The Elite yesterday. What a great movie, loved every second of it.
unholyrevenger72
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I think with the right script and a second unit director, or just strait up co-director, experienced in big budget action movies it would work.
I know, right? So it's weird that Faraci is trying to paint it as trouble in paradise. That was a good move by WB. If these are the quality decisions being made by "aftershocks" then let's get this Rumble in the Jungle going.
Corpsepyre
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Why?
Schweinehund
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Dude had no films under his belt. It's a lot to gamble on when your franchise isn't doing as well as you'd hope. That isn't to say debut director's can't put out a great film, one just did with deadpool.
If WB is sticking to their guns about a director driven universe then I feel more comfortable getting a more experienced director.
He's the only one I didn't feel confident in. James Wan, Ayer & Jenkins atleast have some solid films/projects under their belt. I felt they cheaped out on Flash.
They should just get Berlanti, Kreisberg and Johns on board for the Flash film.
SENPAIatLARGE
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What if he's right? Will you guys still go into a rage when ever a Faraci rumor is posted?
When he's right he's right. It's the way he goes about presenting what he's heard I have more of an issue with.
Kenzodielocke
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It's not about if he's right or not, it's about how he is messaging his shit. And he was wrong with Suicide Squad.
EDit: Icon said it already above.
Corpsepyre
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Johns should be overseeing the entire slate of films though.
Didn't the russo brothers go from a comedy on nbc (community) to directing the best mcu movie in winter soldier? I don't get that reasoning.
SJRB
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What chaos and mess are you even talking about?
Directors leaving projects to me is a sign that WB doesn't know what they are doing.
Michelle McLaren left WW, now this guy leaves Flash, rumours of Wan leaving Aquaman.
It's not a good look at all.
Kenzodielocke
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Gal Gadot got 31 today, Happy Birthday, Princess !
WB dropped both of them, they didn't leave. You're making it sound like they ran off. They were essentially fired.
GreyOcelot
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i don't agree at all. this kind of thing is commonplace in hollywood. Spielberg was supposed to direct interstellar, kubrick was attached to AI at one point. darren aronofsky was going to direct the fighter. or how about more recently edgar wright leaving the antman project. comic book movies in particular have this issue, especially when you follow warner's plan of letting strong creatives establish their own take on a property (ie. they aren't trying to hire puppet directors). so you have strong creative directors taking on projects that (a) have tons of source material that you cannot ignore, (b) have a lot of studio execs and producers that want to have input on, combined with the fact that (c) the most recent related project was commercial and critically disappointing. it's not that crazy to imagine that warner execs met with grahame-smith and said "here's the kind of changes we'd like you to make" and he responded with "nope!"
Eh, that's equally presumptuous tbh. All we know is there was a disagreement.
Not really. We've had reliable information state that for both directors. Michelle was adamant about some inclusions that WB wasn't fond of and Seth is inexperienced.
I'm with you on Wan. I never really thought he was a good fit for Aquaman but truthfully I don't follow directors in such a way that I would be able to offer a better suggestion.
Smokey_Run
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Wan leaving wouldn't bother me. I thought his action sequences in Fast 7 were terrible. However, it'd be a terrible look for WB if he dropped out now.
Future Foundation
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You're making it sound like she left yesterday. Michelle McLaren left Wonder Woman over a year ago, that situation's been long settled.
We have no clue about Wan other than him maybe having second thoughts, which may not even be related to anything Warner Bros. is doing. Grahame-Smith's still a producer, and he's still getting his script used.
The action sequences in the Fast franchise as a whole feel bad to me. They're so divorced from reality and the plots are so contrived that it's hard to see what exactly is the appeal beyond watching stuff blow up pretty. I can't watch those movies anymore. I don't necessarily blame Wan for anything though. He was a director for hire on that and in my eyes he just led a very stable production and delivered a movie the studio wanted. It was as good as it could have been.
The same goes for The Conjuring. I don't think that movie had any reason being as good as it was. Usually movies like that end up becoming victims of their own cliched premises, but under Wan's direction we somehow ended up with one of the best horror movies in years. Hopefully it's sequel ends up being just as good.
BadAss2961
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I doubt a first time director would leave an opportunity like Flash on the table, especially if they're still keeping his script. 'Creative differences' just sounds like a way for both sides to save face rather than Warner acknowledge they got cold feet on him due to his inexperience. They seem to like Smith and are continuing work with him on other stuff.
Seemed like there really were creative differences with MacLaren though, but inexperience played a part in that one too. Here's what Variety had to say about her exit last year.
Other than wanting some huge Braveheart epic that Warner thought was out of her range, I remember a rumor about her wanting to do some crazy shit with Wonder Woman that didn't jive with canon or the universe narrative. Can't find it though.
Schweinehund
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I love Johns, I don't know if he can be their Feige if they ever created a producer driven universe like marvel did. He's most likely a better storyteller and he's most likely unmatched in DC knowledge (between him, Waid and Grant Morrison), but he doesn't have the production experience that Feige had. I don't know if he's up to it either, I'm sure he'd love to get back to writing just comics.
KonradLaw
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Comedy that had incredible action scenes. In damn paintball episode none the less
They weren't picked without a reason. Marvel knew they had the talent to make it work. If WB is willing to take some fresh talent for one of their movies I think James Bamford would do extremely well. Russos-level of well. He's a stunt coordinator on Arrow and he directed his first episode this year (called Brotherhood) and it was just plain awesome direction-wise considering they had 8 damn days to shoot. Give this guy a movie with more physical character, like Deathstroke or Question and he would absolutely kill it.
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Meus Renaissance
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Today I learnt that Deadpool made more money in the US than a Batman/Superman movie.
DecoReturns
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Directors leave from Marvel often as well. It's the share universe aspect not that WB don't keno what there doing.
I'll echo what I said in the topic thread in OT... but I have a million times more respect for Umberto than that other slimy dude. I don't know why ANYONE goes to him.
I prefer my McDonalds with a smile and politeness (Umberto) but some people apparently like the dude that will wipe your burger with his butt and spit in your fries before giving you a stinky look for ordering McDonalds (slimy dude)
All from the same farcy report.
I prefer my McDonalds with a smile and politeness (Umberto) but some people apparently like the dude that will wipe your burger with his butt and spit in your fries before giving you a stinky look for ordering McDonalds (slimy dude)
All from the same farcy report.
SJRB
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lol, that source.
I love how they say "well this source was totally wrong the last time, but we'll just go ahead and post their latest shit anyway because why not". All this doom and gloom and concern trolling from random websites, it's crazy. Gotta get those clicks, I suppose.
bishopcruz
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Why do people listen to Faraci? When he is a known troll against DC. I don;t buy the bias argument in general, but this guy? I mean he literally trolls the fanbase all the time. And he gets coverage out of it. I mean people STILL believe his Suicide Squad BS.
I absolutely believe Snyder and WB are butting heads. I also don't think that is information you need an insider for. Just looking at BvS's performance will tell you that. What it means for the DCEU remains to be seen but that's the news insiders should be going for instead of pulling for clicks on worthless information.
Schweinehund
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Wonder why he threw Johns name in there. Dude has an EP credit, that'd be like Christopher Nolan being taken aback. If Johns was in charge I think there'd be a lot less Batman killing and a lot more Flash and GL wank.
I mean after BvS it's no shock WB is taking a closer look at things and putting their hand on it a bit more. That's expected and doesn't need any insider knowledge. We'll see what it means in the long run. BvS being the sacrificial lamb may be the best thing that comes out of all of this.
Isn't that conjecture though or is there a source that directly implies they were both let go/
Conjecture but considering the reasoning it would be weird if either of them left of their own accord when they had already signed on to the job(s) unless they didn't like what WB was asking of them. If that were the case with either director that is the "word" that would have come from it. Are you telling me if Faraci had heard that Seth left because WB was fucked up he wouldn't have shouted that as loud as he possibly could? Sometimes what you don't hear tells you just as much as what you do hear.
Just came across this. I'm not sure of the reliability but in all honesty this was likely obvious but apparently Jeremy Irons will return as Alfred in Justice League.
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Completely off topic but I think I just saw my ex in a porn vid. Like 98% sure, it has been 4 years and I vaguely remember her having some moles on her belly (could be wrong) which the girl in the vid did not have. But then again it was amateur, bad lighting, low res etc...she covered her eyes with her hair so that is why I'm not sure. But the rest of her face, her body, her voice, the way she does things...and she smiled and said something that she did all the time. The smile she gave was also EXACTLY the same. I kinda feel bad for her, but at the same time I want it to be true (I know I'm a horrible person yadayada). But I just can't stop laughing, it's just so unreal but funny at the same time.
Haha, I saw an ex-girlfriend in a Girls Gone Wild video but no porn as of yet.
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