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I beg your pardon sire?
Leo_Sagittarius
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Maybe I spoke too soon, but I really feel like they are starting to tap into the previous eras of DC Film.
I really hope Danny uses Zimmer's Superman score though, that better live on. But maybe give his own twist?
broncobuster
Banned
Discotheque
Banned
will be very sad if this is the case. oh well, I still think Matt Reeves will pull that dope balance of heroism and serious/grim dramatic tone when he starts on Batman.
keep Geoff Johns and his company mantras away from it.
beyond_death
Member
I kinda like Elfman but I thought Junkie XL was confirmed to score? Was it unconfirmed or did he get kicked off?
Edit: ok just read the article. I wonder why he left. I have a feeling this movie is undergoing some... changes. Not sure I like the idea of that.
Edit: ok just read the article. I wonder why he left. I have a feeling this movie is undergoing some... changes. Not sure I like the idea of that.
Damnit Bronco... I laughed at this.
What are you talking about? Geoff Johns is all heroic until you get brutally murdered by the bad guy in extremely graphic detail.
MisterHero
Super Member
Can't wait for the Green Lantern movie with those red guys that vomit blood
*vomits*
I hate that we lost Junkie. Looks like Snyder's vision is going to considerable altered. Dammit.
Smokey_Run
Member
Laughed harder than I should have at this.
BadAss2961
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BadAss2961
Member
Hate to say it, but Junkie's statement really makes it sound like Snyder's vision is indeed being stepped on.
Every major scooper has debunked those rumors tho.
Inferno313
Banned
The only Junkie XL solo score worth a damn is Fury Road... His Deadpool score was zzzzz, and I really like that movie.
Elfman, while generic lately, has made the two best superhero scores ever. Y'all are crazy, this is an upgrade.
Elfman, while generic lately, has made the two best superhero scores ever. Y'all are crazy, this is an upgrade.
I was just thinking that, I certainly wouldn't be surprised if it gets delayed.
I mean, look, despite that there were some that liked BvS and SS; we can't really be surprised that WB was going to be looking for a course correction.
That WW was so widely praised is going to be a giant, blaring alert for them. It's the first ray of light they've had for this DCEU project. Of vourse they're going to react to that.
IMO, WW found a really nice balance between some adult, 'darker' themes and the 'hope and optimism' of superhero stories. If they're able to find that balance going forward I'm all for it. That still gives DCU its own 'feel' and differentiates it from the MCU in its own way.
That WW was so widely praised is going to be a giant, blaring alert for them. It's the first ray of light they've had for this DCEU project. Of vourse they're going to react to that.
IMO, WW found a really nice balance between some adult, 'darker' themes and the 'hope and optimism' of superhero stories. If they're able to find that balance going forward I'm all for it. That still gives DCU its own 'feel' and differentiates it from the MCU in its own way.
broncobuster
Banned
Nah. There are too many hoops to jump through for those rumors. And some of the rational gets really, really disturbing. It's no surprise what gormless sources are trying to spread the misinformation. Same types who spread nonsense about Wonder Woman being a mess to catch attention. Reliable sources won't stick their neck out for the dubious stories they're hawking.
Although, speaking of reshoots, some set photos are online.
BronsonLee
Member
Junkie hasn't been replaced on a project yet? Time for him to learn
BadAss2961
Member
Elfman can be incredible. His potential is greater than Junkie's.
But after thinking about it... With direction from Whedon, we might get generic Elfman.
beyond_death
Member
So he got replaced. Damn.....
I agree that WW found a better balance between grim reality and hope that's was more palatable for the public, but the tone of BvS was specific and calculated due to the story and context. I just hope this won't be a tonally all over the place Frankenstein'd project now. Last time WB made knee-jerk changes we got SS.
Yall a composer got replaced. You can't extrapolate and say that Snyder's vision is being stepped on just from that.
These reshoots were destined to happen anyway. Snyder or no Snyder. I have no doubts they were already thinking of replacing the composer.
We'll see, but like bronco said no one who leaks things has said anything about anything major being changed.
These reshoots were destined to happen anyway. Snyder or no Snyder. I have no doubts they were already thinking of replacing the composer.
We'll see, but like bronco said no one who leaks things has said anything about anything major being changed.
bryanee
Member
Just read about Elfman. Hes good and his Batman theme is amazing. Just wondering what kind of sound he'll go for.
Anyway a medley of Batman 89 music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRZAk2rfESU
Anyway a medley of Batman 89 music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRZAk2rfESU
BadAss2961
Member
Reading between the lines, Junkie's statement all but says he was replaced as part of a new vision. Basically that he'd still be on board if Zack was still working.
Music is a big deal in setting tone. This could mean that Zack isn't as involved in at least overseeing the finish of JL as we had hoped. That Warner gave Whedon the nod to take what's there and balance it as he sees fit, instead of going off notes from Zack... Worst case scenario, but it's a possibility.
BlackGoku03
Member
Oh you noticed it too.
I've read every post in this thread/threads over time. It's interesting to see the shift in mood.
Maybe the reshoots don't involve Bruce/Batman yet?
BadAss2961
Member
I'm happy about this. I hope Ben isn't needed at all for what's going on.
The less reshoots, the more this is still Snyder's film. lol
broncobuster
Banned
Allegedly from reshoot set,
First reshoot scene with the new Batman leaked,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qa12ewbKGbY
First reshoot scene with the new Batman leaked,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qa12ewbKGbY
BlackGoku03
Member
There is another relating to Wonder Woman.
GringoSuave89
Banned
So much doom and gloom. I just want a great Justice League movie. Gimme that and we're cool.
Tim Burton's Dumbo is filming in the same lot, so the earlier leak isn't confirmed for JL (could be Dumbo).
Was expecting shit, but that wasn't terrible.
Tim Burton's Dumbo is filming in the same lot, so the earlier leak isn't confirmed for JL (could be Dumbo).
Was expecting shit, but that wasn't terrible.
jombag
Member
You're tearing us apart Whedon!
It's possible he's not currently needed, but the dude is looking rough. I don't see how he can get back into Batman shape if the reshoots are already going on
Thing is, he's no doubt the main character of the movie, maybe co-lead with WW after the huge success.
Let's say the reshoots are more drastic than we've been told, I'm thinking he'd play a significant role.
jombag
Member
I for one am looking foward for the Superman and Stephenwolf "Puny God" joke equivalent
Discotheque
Banned
Yep. The less actors that get announced for these reshoots the less worried I'll be
clay_ghost
Member
Wind waker is actually freaking dark below the cute surface.
b&jy77VjiKn$#F
Member
Whedon you sonuvabitch
It's worth noting that what we saw before Snyder stepped away included a different tone than BvS already. It's entirely possible that shift was already there, and the result would have been somewhat of a mix regardless. Like there was a lot of wisecracking and banter in the Aquaman/Bats, Flash/Bats, even WW/Bats stuff we've seen.
You guys are being a bit reactionary. Junkie was hired during BvS, along with Hans. It's entirely possible that he just wasn't the best fit for JL, whether it was Snyders choice or not. He says he's happy to have been a part of Snyders vision, that doesn't necessarily mean his vision is gone. Maybe they wanted less drums, more heroism
Major Gripex
Member
Everyone calm down and stop overreacting, please!
With all these changes Justice League is getting delayed, isn't it? 
I keep going back to that interview with Roven (I think) where he said the script was altered after BvS reception. Basically, JL was going to continue BvS's tone and then gradually introduce the lighter stuff. But then they decided to push that lighter stuff much more sooner in the movie after all the complaints.
It wouldn't surprise me if they kept hacking away at it during production. Also, it could have been Snyder himself doing all the alterations because he wants the same thing we all want: for these heroes to be celebrated. But man, Snyder has never been known to pander, and like DaveH said a couple of pages back, it's not too much a stretch to think Zack was being influenced by Geoff's superhero Kool-Aid which is why he brought Whedon on board.
This is a bummer. Back into the pit I go.
It wouldn't surprise me if they kept hacking away at it during production. Also, it could have been Snyder himself doing all the alterations because he wants the same thing we all want: for these heroes to be celebrated. But man, Snyder has never been known to pander, and like DaveH said a couple of pages back, it's not too much a stretch to think Zack was being influenced by Geoff's superhero Kool-Aid which is why he brought Whedon on board.
This is a bummer. Back into the pit I go.
BadAss2961
Member
Everyone calm down and stop overreacting, please!
With all these changes Justice League is getting delayed, isn't it?
Would be such a waste since the whole point of Whedon stepping in was supposedly to avoid a delay. Could've just let Zack take his time off in that case.
A delay now would be a huge red flag for those who want the film as Snyder intended.