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[beyond_death]

If they do announce a delay then I think its safe to say that what they are doing is not simple reshoots. Hope not though.

 

[Major Gripex]

If we're talking changes, I'm more worried about changes to Terrios script. I really wanted to see what he could do without the influence of Goyer...

 

[okdakor]

he wants the same thing we all want: for these heroes to be celebrated.

Maybe for JL, but in MoS and BvS he clearly wanted us to fear / hate these heroes

Maybe the reshoots don't involve Bruce/Batman yet?

No reshoots for Batman, because they are cutting some of his scenes to insert more Wonder Woman, part of the course correction

 

[FeD.nL]

You guys are being a bit reactionary. Junkie was hired during BvS, along with Hans. It's entirely possible that he just wasn't the best fit for JL, whether it was Snyders choice or not. He says he's happy to have been a part of Snyders vision, that doesn't necessarily mean his vision is gone. Maybe they wanted less drums, more heroism

Actually Junkie was already hired for Man of Steel. He's credited as 'additional music' but Zimmer has gone on record in interviews that Tom helped him with a lot of the themes. His credit mention just got upgraded for BvS.

 

[Raptor]

 

[strafer]

man they fucking kicked him in the ass

 

[DJ Lushious]

The only Junkie XL solo score worth a damn is Fury Road... His Deadpool score was zzzzz, and I really like that movie.

Wow, I had no idea or completely forgot. Is he credited by his real name or "Junkie XL?"

 

[Ninjimbo]

Maybe for JL, but in MoS and BvS he clearly wanted us to fear / hate these heroes

No he didn't. Did you even watch those movies?

 

[Bleepey]

I keep going back to that interview with Roven (I think) where he said the script was altered after BvS reception. Basically, JL was going to continue BvS's tone and then gradually introduce the lighter stuff. But then they decided to push that lighter stuff much more sooner in the movie after all the complaints.

It wouldn't surprise me if they kept hacking away at it during production. Also, it could have been Snyder himself doing all the alterations because he wants the same thing we all want: for these heroes to be celebrated. But man, Snyder has never been known to pander, and like DaveH said a couple of pages back, it's not too much a stretch to think Zack was being influenced by Geoff's superhero Kool-Aid which is why he brought Whedon on board.

This is a bummer. Back into the pit I go.

I liked BVS's tone

 

[Cheebo]

The way this reads is he is saying Joss took over the decision making and kicked him off.

 

[Future Foundation]

I can't believe people are *still* shocked at the Justice League course correction.

 

[Poodlestrike]

I can't believe people are *still* shocked at the Justice League course correction.

I'd barely even call it a course correction. We had interviews before BvS even dropped talking about how it was gonna be the darkest part of the MoS-BvS-JL arc. This isn't a surprise.

 

[jrush64]

I want an enjoyable movie that's not too grim and definitely doesn't have the same tone as BvS.

 

[MisterHero]

I don't want a course correction. Whedon is a terrific guy but I definitely don't want the same creative pools dictating both JL and Avengers.

 

[J_Viper]

I liked BVS's tone

Me too, but that tone ain't gonna give you a billion

 

[b&jy77VjiKn$#F]

So who will direct JL2? Snyder or Whedon?

 

[strafer]

So who will direct JL2? Snyder or Whedon?

Idris Elba

 

[b&jy77VjiKn$#F]

Idris Elba

he will direct your mom instead

 

[strafer]

he will direct your mom instead

 

[evil solrac v3.0]

don't know if this was posted but an interesting article.

http://screenrant.com/batman-v-superman-skulls-meaning-zack-snyder/

There were plenty who criticized Zack Snyder’s Man of Steel for letting thousands of innocent people die without a second thought – but as it turns out, Superman was haunted by the lives he couldn’t save… most audience members just never understood how Snyder expressed it. In terms of actual plot, Batman V Superman spins directly out of the tragedy and carnage unleashed by General Zod in Man of Steel‘s third act. But when one DCEU fan took to social media to dig a bit deeper and see how Snyder may have used imagery both universal and film-specific to drive home the toll it took on Henry Cavill’s Superman, the director reached out to confirm that it’s a beat most audience members may miss.

 

[What did he mean by this?]

A lot of Snyder's symbolism is so super obvious

Wow, the skulls from that Man of Steel scene are equivalent to the skull face paints from the BvS scene. Who'd a thought? And you're telling me, the skulls in Man of Steel represent Superman's responsibility to present himself to the world, whereas the skulls in BvS represent the consequences of doing so? Whaaaaaaaaaaaaat

Yet some people still say it doesnt exist...

 

[Ninjimbo]

A lot of Snyder's symbolism is so super obvious

Wow, the skulls from that Man of Steel scene are equivalent to the skull face paints from the BvS scene. Who'd a thought? And you're telling me, the skulls in Man of Steel represent Superman's responsibility to present himself to the world, whereas the skulls in BvS represent the consequences of doing so? Whaaaaaaaaaaaaat

Yet some people still say it doesnt exist...

Sometimes it's super obvious, sometimes I completely miss it like in the day of the dead scene. I completely missed the parallel until that article brought it up and I'm kicking myself for it lol.

It's that kind of stuff that makes me think Snyder is on another level from other filmmakers . You just don't see stuff like that even from my favorite directors like Nolan. Snyder had balls to put stuff like that into what was supposed to be a Hollywood blockbuster.

 

[Ross61]

Seen a theory on how Aquaman was pushed back to December in advance because of the JL reshoots......

 

[a916]

Thank you @geoffjohns for asking me to reshoot the entire Justice League movie, I'm honored - Fake Joss Whedon

Did I mention we're going to put Spider-Man and Scooby Doo in it? - Geoff Johns

LMFAO

Edit: Adding that it's a fake Whedon account

 

[J_Viper]

LMFAO

LOL

Whedon's a funny dude

 

[Ross61]

Geoff replied to a fake Whedon account X_____X



Hall of Justice????????????

 

[KDash31987]

That Hall of Justice is from the big CW crossover last season.

 

[Bleepey]

Sometimes it's super obvious, sometimes I completely miss it like in the day of the dead scene. I completely missed the parallel until that article brought it up and I'm kicking myself for it lol.

It's that kind of stuff that makes me think Snyder is on another level from other filmmakers . You just don't see stuff like that even from my favorite directors like Nolan. Snyder had balls to put stuff like that into what was supposed to be a Hollywood blockbuster.

Lex literally has Senator's eating out of his hand and people are like why is Lex acting weird.
Clark reads Plato's Republic in Man of Steel and the Kryptonian society is modelled after it
Batman killing people was the fucking point, it shows how out of character he is and the many references in the film support it but people do not notice or refuse to acknowledge it.

 

[broncobuster]

LMFAO

Edit: Adding that it's a fake Whedon account

I'd 100% be for a Scooby Doo movie with Batman and the Harlem Globetrotters in it.

 

[Poodlestrike]

I'd 100% be for a Scooby Doo movie with Batman and the Harlem Globetrotters in it.

Make it Futurama Globetrotters and BvS Batman and you've got a stew goin'.

 

[Tabby]

Just saw Wonder Woman, really liked it. Probably my favourite origin movie.

 

[b&jy77VjiKn$#F]

Just saw Wonder Woman, really liked it. Probably my favourite origin movie.

I bet you saw it with your wifey.

 

[Tabby]

I bet you saw it with your wifey.

You're just jealous! She says hi btw

 

[broncobuster]

Still kind of amazing how there's a "Wonder Woman pose" now. In all these years across various WW media I never associated a specific pose with Wonder Woman; closest was her hands on her hips from the TV show.

 

[LionPride]

I can't see the name Wonder Woman without hearing the riff in my head

 

[Ashhong]

I can't see the name Wonder Woman without hearing the riff in my head

What is that caption under LBJ?

And does WW have that pose in the show or cartoon or comics? Can't remember

 

[b&jy77VjiKn$#F]

You're just jealous! She says hi btw

>:|

 

[LionPride]

What is that caption under LBJ?

And does WW have that pose in the show or cartoon or comics? Can't remember

From last year's finals

"No team has ever come back from a 3-1 deficit"

I never associated a specific pose with her, but in the JL cartoon, the animation did end with her in the pose I believe.

 

[Raptor]

>:|

Deal with it.

 

[broncobuster]

Hearing various impressions about War for the Planet of the Apes, with the common theme of it being mean and bleak and heavy and amazing for it.

If anybody at Warners try this fun woo woo stuff, Affleck needs to play attack dog for Reeves.

 

[Penguin]

Still kind of amazing how there's a "Wonder Woman pose" now. In all these years across various WW media I never associated a specific pose with Wonder Woman; closest was her hands on her hips from the TV show.

Ha yeah

But now that I'm seeing more Wonder Woman

Realize that pose is all over, just the movie really pushed it to the limelight

 

[WhiteWolf]

Hearing various impressions about War for the Planet of the Apes, with the common theme of it being mean and bleak and heavy and amazing for it.

If anybody at Warners try this fun woo woo stuff, Affleck needs to play attack dog for Reeves.

Seriously. I'm tired of Johns and WB pushing "hope", "fun", and "optimism"; that shit needs to stay away from the Batman film.

 

[J_Viper]

I'm reading through Court of Owls right now and hot damn, this would make a great film

Hearing various impressions about War for the Planet of the Apes, with the common theme of it being mean and bleak and heavy and amazing for it.

If anybody at Warners try this fun woo woo stuff, Affleck needs to play attack dog for Reeves.

Bomba by Night lost Ben whatever pull he had at WB

I do hope WW's success helps them realize the less studio interference there is, the better.

 

[Ninjimbo]

Ben is going to be the star of JL. He'll be the Batman Raptor always wanted.

 

[a916]

Seriously. I'm tired of Johns and WB pushing "hope", "fun", and "optimism"; that shit needs to stay away from the Batman film.

In his quote from last year he purposely went out of his way to say even Batman has hope. Hope for a better future because he would stop doing it if he didn't believe in it.

Which I think is the best extent of that hope. Whereas Superman wants to save people from themselves, believing even the worst can be saved.

 

[strafer]

Ben is going to be the star of JL. He'll be the Batman Raptor always wanted.

Nah, Superman will.

Batman is a pleb.

 

[Ninjimbo]

Nonsense. Batman is going to be doing the heavy lifting putting the team together and investigating threats while Clark punches shit and pretends he's doing hard work.

 

[Future Foundation]

Seriously. I'm tired of Johns and WB pushing "hope", "fun", and "optimism"; that shit needs to stay away from the Batman film.

What, are these trigger words or something?

 

[Ninjimbo]

What, are these fucking trigger words or something?

They're mostly platitudes that have lost all meaning thus they've become annoying.

 

[a916]

Honestly, the more I think of it... I don't agree with Elfman.

No offense to Danny, at least Junkie XL was the same veign as Hans Zimmer.

Elfman music is very classical. To me that's a different direction that I really don't agree with. It would be like John Williams scoring this... it's a very classical style without the "oomph" that Zimmer/Junkie bring.