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DC Extended Universe |OT3| A League of Academy Award Winners
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This is very inappropriate to joke about.
GringoSuave89
Banned
Yeah, come on now.
GringoSuave89
Banned
All good, it's just that the situation unfolding is far too important for flippant jokes. Affleck is far from a good guy, but it's not like we have to make predator jokes to make others aware.
On the topic, I still don't know what to think. The man has his demons and he's tried to at least do the right thing humanitarian wise. But behavior like that is hard to shake. Hope he gets his shit sorted. Harvey can burn though, that man is scum.
MHWilliams
Member
Least you did the right thing after it was pointed out. Thank you.
broncobuster
Banned
Honestly best direction for Affleck to do is take a break from Hollywood, focus on humanitarian work, family, and bettering himself. Thats assuming hes truly ashamed of his behavior. If, but really when, he returns itll probably be behind the camera.
Who knows. With how Hollywood is, he wouldnt need to do anything and keep on keeping on, like Johnny Depp. But its down to if hell hold himself to a higher standard. And hopefully hes sincere about wanting to make amends, to give the women some closure. Its a tricky situation.
How that all relates to DC movies, jokes aside a recast isnt a big deal. Predictably the initial announcement will have your think piece from nerd blogs, but in time itll be an irrelevant speed bump along the way.
Who knows. With how Hollywood is, he wouldnt need to do anything and keep on keeping on, like Johnny Depp. But its down to if hell hold himself to a higher standard. And hopefully hes sincere about wanting to make amends, to give the women some closure. Its a tricky situation.
How that all relates to DC movies, jokes aside a recast isnt a big deal. Predictably the initial announcement will have your think piece from nerd blogs, but in time itll be an irrelevant speed bump along the way.
Thanks for not banning me!
Yeah a break from Hollywood seems like the best move for him. Even before this all broke out, dude just seemed completely burnt out.
I hope he can conquer his demons and make amends somehow.
It's a real shame about Affleck too. For a hot minute there he was making one hell of a comeback - a trio of critically acclaimed films in a row, plus Argo winning Best Picture at the Oscars. Dude definitely has demons in the closet though - between his gambling, drinking and now all this sexual harassment stuff.
I wouldn't be surprised at all if he dropped out of Batman at this point. Sounds like he needs to take a break from Hollywood, go to rehab, and find ways to just better himself.
I wouldn't be surprised at all if he dropped out of Batman at this point. Sounds like he needs to take a break from Hollywood, go to rehab, and find ways to just better himself.
Kenzodielocke
Banned
In the grand scheme of things, I dont think it will change anything for WBs plans. Ben was most likely to walk out after anyway. I am just curious how they are going to adress all this.
As Ahasverus said, I dont think this will affect the international market at all - might not even affect the domestic market... but I can tel you guys, I am already debating if I should see this movie or not.
Will probably not watch any Affleck content for a while. I am not a person who differentiates between art and artist.
As Ahasverus said, I dont think this will affect the international market at all - might not even affect the domestic market... but I can tel you guys, I am already debating if I should see this movie or not.
Will probably not watch any Affleck content for a while. I am not a person who differentiates between art and artist.
He just came back from rehab earlier this year... and these sexual harassment stuff are from 2004 and 2014.
I don't mean to challenge your decision to not watch anything with Ben for a while, but would you also consider the same actions for Infinity War and Deadpool 2 with Brolin's history? Personally, I think domestic abuse is worse than what Ben did or is accused of doing. I'm just generally curious to know people's limits or reasoning's behind things. I am not saying you're right or wrong in your choices.
GringoSuave89
Banned
If Affleck isn't Batman going forward, it won't be because of this. Doubt it'll hurt his career either. How soon we forget.
Kenzodielocke
Banned
I didn't even know about that. I decide from a day to day basis. I don't watch any Depp movies, for example. Like, Affleck is freakishly fresh, so it makes sense to distance myself from his work.
It's not a way that is a 100 % boycotting everything that I condone, it's more of a feelings things, I am not perfect, in that regard especially.
If Ben is gone I'd rather them fix it in the films then a straight up recast as if nothing changed. I know it's wishful thinking but it's always a bit off putting when a new actor recalls memories from earlier films he wasn't in. Eventually it becomes nomal but that first movie is a little weird.
broncobuster
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Generally my stance on separating the art from the artist is the range of artists on hand. Hundreds of people worked on something like Justice League, and this is just my perspective, it wouldn't be fair to take away all their hard work because of one man's problems. And movies are a collaborate process, so there aren't many exceptions for me in the medium. Others see things differently and that's fine.
Whew... I don't think we're at the end of this hollywood implosion, heard today that french actress were also involved, Emma De Caunes, Lea Seydoux, Judith Godrèche. Lea said that everybody knew but nobody said anything, wich doesn't exculpate Ben as for knowing, but he's not the only one involved.
I think a recast would be the best option for WB, but I thought that before the scandals... Marvel did it with Edward Norton/Mark Ruffalo.
I think a recast would be the best option for WB, but I thought that before the scandals... Marvel did it with Edward Norton/Mark Ruffalo.
Discotheque
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I watch and enjoy movies and music from far bigger pieces of crap tbh. like Polanski is one of my GOATs and he's a reprehensible human being. everybody's different though, I understand if people would want to boycott stuff considering the people behind and in front of the camera.
Baron_Calamity
Member
Yikes, as if this movie didn't have enough problems already. Ben was one of the few things going for it.
You loved the sad affleck meme from last year ? We surpassed ourselves !
I've deliberately been keeping a low profile on GAF over this Weinstein story because there's no way you can make a drive by comment on stuff like this. You either have to stay and 'unpack' the whole thing, the full inner 'ick' workings of showbiz etc, or just avoid it entirely.
I just feel like momentum has been shifting toward Affleck leaving the role of Batman for months now and WB themselves just want a fresh start. Between the drinking and now this groping revelation I think that the studio will want someone a little more low profile and, dare I say it, 'wholesome'.
I imagine they'll stay in business with him but the studio (first look deal, other films) themselves probably realise that they need a new figurehead to lead the DCU and Justice League will be Affleck's last outing as Batman unless something radical happens.
I fully expect Affleck to (again, unless something radical happens) announce he's leaving the Batman role in Feb/March next year and another actor plays the role moving forward.
So basically if Brolin was in a DC film you'd boycott it but since he's in Deadpool 2, a Marvel film, you'll muster the inner strength to forgive him and move on.
Truly, you are an inspiration to us all.
I just feel like momentum has been shifting toward Affleck leaving the role of Batman for months now and WB themselves just want a fresh start. Between the drinking and now this groping revelation I think that the studio will want someone a little more low profile and, dare I say it, 'wholesome'.
I imagine they'll stay in business with him but the studio (first look deal, other films) themselves probably realise that they need a new figurehead to lead the DCU and Justice League will be Affleck's last outing as Batman unless something radical happens.
I fully expect Affleck to (again, unless something radical happens) announce he's leaving the Batman role in Feb/March next year and another actor plays the role moving forward.
So basically if Brolin was in a DC film you'd boycott it but since he's in Deadpool 2, a Marvel film, you'll muster the inner strength to forgive him and move on.
Truly, you are an inspiration to us all.
Kenzodielocke
Banned
Yeah. Learn to read mate. I didnt even know about Brolin. Get off with that bullshit, as if I was a Marvel fanboy.
You're assuming they weren't out before. I doubt this changes anything on that front. If anything his presence could be decreased to outlets that agree not to bring up the topic while they're there specifically to push the film.
I actually doubt they go the AAA route. It's not really needed. Batman as an IP does a lot of the heavy lifting automatically. The actor just has to be good in the role. He'll become a house hold name after the fact. I think the director and first trailer are far more important to be honest. If anything a AAA actor in the main role might be more trouble then they're worth as Affleck has been a times with the whole will he or won't he nonsense and now possibly this latest stuff.
What did he mean by this?
Member
I've been thrown my hat in for the Dickbat train
I'd kill Affleck in Justice League for goodness sake
I'd kill Affleck in Justice League for goodness sake
the question is do they want to stick with the older/veteran Bruce Wayne or go down a different path? In theory, a mid 40's Batman sounds good but when you take into account the years of pre-production and filming that these movies require and the fact that your building a universe with multiple films, it doesn't really give you much time
Flashpoint could be the key if they want to reset
Further proof that Bayona is directing Man of Steel 2.
https://twitter.com/FilmBayona/status/918462862242336769
https://twitter.com/FilmBayona/status/918462862242336769
Leo_Sagittarius
Member
I like the way you think
Agreed.
Justin Theroux for Batman, during The Leftovers I couldn't stop thinking about that.
He would need to stop skipping leg day though.
Leo_Sagittarius
Member
If you want a intense bruce wayne batman then Joel Edgerton is the way to go
I feel like Bayona (whom WB have been trying to set up with something for years) is definitely going to board a Superman DCU project, whether that's Man Of Steel 2 or
Justice League 2
Interesting, but isn't this more an indication of campaigning? I was under the impression that once they're a lock, they're too paranoid (and contractually bound) to let out any hints like this.
I've only seen "A Monster Calls" (and I think I watched it on 2x speed) but I see a lot of potential there.
Chained Prometheus
Member
I definitely think they're going to switch to a younger Batman. The question is how much younger.
I feel like Armie Hammer is the realistic and logical option for Warner Bros to go with if they want to keep the DCEU Batman similar to Affleck's take on the role. Considerably younger, but still a very similar build in body.
That said, I could also see WB deciding to try and go with a more noticeably different take on Batman in order to give the role some space from Affleck. In that situation, I think Oscar Isaac would be the perfect man for the job.
VenomousCoffee
Member
I'll make up my own mind on what relationships I think are okay, thank you. And I believe that relationships between consenting adults are okay.
Also, I'll add that I find this "some adults aren't really adults" trend fucking enraging.
WB also wanted Mel Gibson of all fucking people to direct SS2. They havent shown good examples.
Leo_Sagittarius
Member
Mel Gibson is a great director.
Mix Master
Member
I'll throw my hat around Jake Gyllenhaal. Nocturnal Animals and Nightcrawler, :wow:. Man is one of the GOATS.
Chained Prometheus
Member
Jake's definitely someone I could see getting the role. I've also speculated once or twice that Matt Reeves might go with Toby Kebbell too, given their history together on Reeves' Planet of the Apes films.
Oddly enough though, I could also just as easily see Gyllenhaal or Kebbell replacing Leto as the Joker as I could see them replacing Affleck as Batman.
Yes, what he did was absolutely terrible, but I believe in second chances.
I was given a second chance and that opened my eyes.
Hyperventilates
MugiwaraCole
Member
A second chance is one thing.
Being paid millions to do a job is another. There's nothing that says giving Mel (or anyone) a second chance at life after royally fucking up in such a disgusting manner means we have to be ok with them having opportunities such as this.
Gibson didn't make one mistake. He kept making the same mistakes over and over and over for years. He has blown through his second, third, fourth, and so on chances.
He is racist and sexist and clearly isn't changing.