Demon´s Souls is Way Too Easy

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v_iHuGi

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So just finished DS for the 2nd time, build level 162, started with Quality but now most stats are pretty high that i can use Spells and Miracles rather well. This game is way too easy imo, outside of 1 Boss (Manatear), all the rest is a Walk in The Park to the point i almost never died. I think it is way too easy to farm aswell, so my build went OP too fast, i used 4-2 to farm, i´m gaining 11K souls per 30/45 seconds.

Sekiro gave me the challenge of my life & i got the Platinum on that game, it was hard and relentless, DS feels like a walk in the park in comparison.
 
I actually agree with you.
I used to farm 4-2 and 4-4 for souls and the three red knights before 1-4 for healing herbs on the PS3 too, but the loading times was so much longer that I couldn't do it for as long and still keep my sanity.

My tip would be, don't farm so much and don't level up as much. That way the game will be harder and you'll have more invaders and people to invade for end game play.
 
Maneater is really the only hard boss in the game but mostly because there are 2 of them and because of the "arena" you fight them in. I think that Demon's Souls is the most balanced when it comes to difficulty and frustration. There are very little bullshit moments and almost no trial and error gameplay, which is why it is probably still my favorite or 2nd favorite.
 
Well if you farmed souls ar 4-2 anything will be easy.....also after the learning curve of dark and sekiro demons must be easier for most of players.

If you find it easy play with a 40 level character all the game.
 
Exoil said:
I actually agree with you.
I used to farm 4-2 and 4-4 for souls and the three red knights before 1-4 for healing herbs on the PS3 too, but the loading times was so much longer that I couldn't do it for as long and still keep my sanity.

My tip would be, don't farm so much and don't level up as much. That way the game will be harder and you'll have more invaders and people to invade for end game play.
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i tried Pure Black tendency and my build still feels OP AF, i guess this game was made to not be as frustrating as the follow ups.
 
SlimeGooGoo said:
People are already attacking OP, by he's right. The original Demon's Souls wasn't hard, and was a good starting point for the franchise.

Some users here can be a little insecure sometimes.
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Yeah man i don´t get the attacks, not that i care about these anyway lmao.

Just wanted to share my view on the matter.
 
Demon's Souls on PS5 was my first real go at a From Software game. I don't think I'd call it "easy" in comparison to most modern games, but I was surprised at how uneven the difficulty was considering its reputation as a brutal game. I beat several sections and bosses on my first try and there wasn't too much that took me more than a few tries at most. It just takes patience more than anything.

After beating Demon's I started in on Dark Souls Remastered and that game definitely feels harder. I don't know if that's considered to be the case by diehard fans but it seems so to me as a newcomer to the franchise.
 
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When I first played this game on PS3, I thought it was super hard. After playing it several times and the rest of the other Souls games, I can't even remember how I ever found it difficult.

It isn't a difficult game, it just requires a different approach than other games.

When I played it on PS5, I think I died maybe three times the entire NG run. I died more in Astro. I'm really not trying to brag. I consider myself an average gamer at best, but Demon's Souls to me isn't just the easiest modern From game, it is easier than 75% of the games I play.
 
v_iHuGi said:
i tried Pure Black tendency and my build still feels OP AF, i guess this game was made to not be as frustrating as the follow ups.
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Do you think the sequels are harder? lol
The three Dark Souls are a walk in the park.

The most challenging games in the series are Demon's, Bloodborne and Sekiro.
 
Maybe so, but I ask this question: did you enjoy playing it again? That's the point. As long as you have fun the difficulty really isn't an issue.
 
The reason you find it easy is because you have obviously read guides and know what to farm, what to upgrade and how to abuse the systems. Back when I played the game on PS3, I refused to read guides and tried to play the game without any knowledge beforehand. I thought it was one of the hardest games of all time. Not because of skill, because I actually think the game doesn't really rely on skill that much, but because of obtuse systems, little to no knowledge about how to upgrade weapons and where to gather souls.
 
Well, yeah, it's the easiest Souls game, including (obviously) both Bloodborne and Sekiro. It was also the first. These games are notorious for evil bosses and the DeS bosses are largely a joke. They hadn't built upon the framework yet.

It's still harder than the vast majority of mainstream games. "way too easy" is weird shade to throw on a remake of an 11.5 year old game.
 
I skipped DS. Same reason I skipped RE7 when released (Although playing it right now with slow process with my brother because of PS+C and because i'm a big fan of the series). The reason is unlike others, I play games to relax and don't mind little challenge but Souls games are just far too tension for me. I gave Sekiro a fare shake so I understand the appeal of Souls games.
 
Nymphae said:
Plays franchise for 1000 hours

This shit is so easy now guys c'mon
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Exactly. This thread feels like some weird flex. If that's the case, good for you OP, lmao.

Really though, Demon's Souls was the first of the Souls games as we know them. This remake is fairly 1:1 when looking at mechanics, etc. So, of course it's going to feel "easier" in theory, I mean, you're basically playing OG DS again, it's just a HELL of a lot prettier.

Since OG DS's release we got DS, DS2, DS3, Bloodborne, and Sekiro. That's quite a bit of titles. Normally newer doesn't always mean harder, but with the Souls series they definitely made adjustments to keep the interest there while increasing the difficulty in a way where it's still possible to complete several times over.

In the end, it's "way too easy" for you doesn't mean it's easy for everyone else. Just like how I've seen people say that boss X or Y in Demon's Souls were SO hard or the hardest, but I didn't die to them on the first fight. The experience varies for everyone. 🤷‍♂️

Edit: Also, level 162? Come on man. Lol.
 
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v_iHuGi said:
So just finished DS for the 2nd time, build level 162, started with Quality but now most stats are pretty high that i can use Spells and Miracles rather well. This game is way too easy imo, outside of 1 Boss (Manatear), all the rest is a Walk in The Park to the point i almost never died. I think it is way too easy to farm aswell, so my build went OP too fast, i used 4-2 to farm, i´m gaining 11K souls per 30/45 seconds.

Sekiro gave me the challenge of my life & i got the Platinum on that game, it was hard and relentless, DS feels like a walk in the park in comparison.
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It's an older game, and you're cheesing it. What do you expect? If you played Demon's Souls on release you would've quit. Garaunteed.

It's a remake of the first iteration of a Souls game; it will be the easiest one.

a multicultural team of v said:
Isn't 162 really, really, really high to finish the game on first playthrough?
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Yep, imagine cheesing to farm souls then bragging about how easy the game is. Cringe...
 
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i agree that the bosses are generally much easier than your average souls games (maneater not included, whose hard as fuck), i beat most first or second try. but i think the world exploration is harder than your average souls game. the remake was my first time playing it and i died plenty just trying to figure my way around the levels.
 
It wasn't an easy game when it came out on pS3. Not only it was kind of a new genre, or maybe forgotten. Then the low ass framerate and suspect hitbox did not help.
 
Totally agree, but it was the easiest of them all already on the PS3, so I guess they left it the same as the original.
 
MiguelItUp said:
Exactly. This thread feels like some weird flex. If that's the case, good for you OP, lmao.

Really though, Demon's Souls was the first of the Souls games as we know them. This remake is fairly 1:1 when looking at mechanics, etc. So, of course it's going to feel "easier" in theory, I mean, you're basically playing OG DS again, it's just a HELL of a lot prettier.

Since OG DS's release we got DS, DS2, DS3, Bloodborne, and Sekiro. That's quite a bit of titles. Normally newer doesn't always mean harder, but with the Souls series they definitely made adjustments to keep the interest there while increasing the difficulty in a way where it's still possible to complete several times over.

In the end, it's "way too easy" for you doesn't mean it's easy for everyone else. Just like how I've seen people say that boss X or Y in Demon's Souls were SO hard or the hardest, but I didn't die to them on the first fight. The experience varies for everyone. 🤷‍♂️
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As I said in the OT a little while ago, it's always been recognized as the easiest game in the franchise and series veterans are going to breeze through it.

Is it hard when it's your first foray into the series? Without question. Even if it's not your first rodeo, it still requires patience and precise play like few other games in the industry.
 
AV said:
Well, yeah, it's the easiest Souls game, including (obviously) both Bloodborne and Sekiro. It was also the first. These games are notorious for evil bosses and the DeS bosses are largely a joke. They hadn't built upon the framework yet.

It's still harder than the vast majority of mainstream games. "way too easy" is weird shade to throw on a remake of an 11.5 year old game.
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Some of the Bosses feel more like a puzzle than actual bosses. i guess that was the vision, game is amazing anyway.
 
The initial feeling of the game makes it so you adapt and confront something that's developed to be difficult. You learn that curve and guess what? It isn't difficult anymore and it doesn't have the same feeling as when you first played the game.

That's why I don't watch those speed runs or one hit boss videos. It's because I approach it differently. I want to listen to the boss and their theme song. I'd rather enjoy my own memories of the game.

It's like prepping for a hidden boss in Final Fantasy. The first time you might struggle because you aren't sure of their weaknesses or you might not have enough healing items in stock. You prep for it and guess what? You gain all your HP back because you have an extra hi-potion or you use a spell to cause the boss to stagger.

It's a blessing and a curse. I have played each Souls game at least 3-4 play throughs over time. I don't immediately replay them just because there is this fatigue to knowing the levels and enemies by heart. They're amazing games and some of my favorite games of all times. I just don't want to ever get sick of that feeling.

I think some people go at it like "I'm just going to run up to this boss and hit it without dodging". Of course you might die. If you can't hit the boss hard enough to stagger it.
 
Well, you made your game too easy farming like that. 🤷‍♂️

Just because there is and farming "exploit" doesn't mean you have to take advantage of it. Is this your first time playing Demon's Souls?

But yes, it's the easiest game on the bunch. Maybe Bluepoint can add a new mode with less quantity of souls drop to make it harder to leveling up and new enemy placement to make it more intereting.
 
Game was praised as hard because when it came out, gaming was in a mostly very dumbed down era. DS gave an unusual challenge with gameplay that rewarded patience and observation. The later souls started adding bullshit just for the sake of being artificially hard (looking at you ds2)
 
Watched my son, who never played a souls game, struggle for an hour. Then he started turning gears and within hour 2 - 3 was loving it. He has finished his first play through and wants every game in the series. He walked over boss's from about half way point forward. I also was surprised how easily he progressed. In any case, the game is freakin' awesome! I'm going to have to make time for a play.
 
I've yet to play Sekiro, but I've heard multiple times that it's one of the hardest Souls games. I'm not surprised if it's augmented your Souls skills. It's like going from Very Hard to Normal.

After you have the reaction times and ability to space/position/watch/react down, it's all just varying degrees of the Souls template: Punishing but fair. If you don't get punished, then you'll be fine.
 
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His avatar.. dude wanted to play demon's souls in person :messenger_tears_of_joy: i guess it's inevitable that a copy of a game that has been iterated on, like, 6 times won't be as refined.
 
SlimeGooGoo said:
People are already attacking OP, but he's right. The original Demon's Souls wasn't hard, and was a good starting point for the franchise.

Some users here can be a little too insecure sometimes.
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Major correction. The game wasn't hard for you. Not everyone is a hardcore gamer.
 
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