Demon´s Souls is Way Too Easy

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I'm finding some of the mechanics obscure to the point of being annoying but am still loving the game. I'm a relative souls noob but have played most of them. Just never beat one completely. I am determined to beat this one eventually then go back and take on the rest.
 
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I always thought the "Git Gud", Souls is sooo hard, stuff was overblown and missed the real attraction of these games. Amazing atmosphere and clever level design. I seem to remember that even From was not a huge fan of Bandai's "Prepare to Die" marketing for DS1.

They are hard games because they test your ability to pay attention and learn from mistakes. Aside from some wonky AI and crazy hit boxes, there is very little that is truly unfair in Souls games. That's what makes them satisfying. If anything, some of the recent Souls bosses with their 8 phases have gotten away from this philosophy.

So yes, I think Demon's Souls is a bit easier than other entries
—although some of the boss run backs are a pain—but it's got an amazing atmosphere that is only bested by Bloodborne. It's probably the best entry point into the series.
 
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Thief ring and just using a shield itself are 2 of the biggest things that can make it easy, I feel.

Leveling up past 20 also does too. But maybe not for first timers to DeS or Souls games.
 
If I played all the derivatives for hours and years the original may become pedestrian. When you do something a bunch, you get better. Also learn to code.
 
ive beaten Sekiro multiple times and still had trouble with a few bosses

compared to other From games, maybe, but compared to every other game, lol, nope
 
DS is the easiest soul game to date. Specially if you CHEESE it with magic.
 
Its not that World at War "50 grenades homing in on you while in cover" type of hard, but thank god for that. It's a way better game for what it is.

There are two ways of playing it and finding it easy. Either being unreal in terms of skill, which probably means you have the patience of a saint, or doing what OP has done. Gaming the system is fair play, but don't do it and then moan that it's easy. That's ridiculous.

Go do a run where you don't grind for weeks, then I'll be impressed.
 
  • Uses guides
  • Grinds souls
  • Softcaps all stats
It sounds like you have zero self control, OP. Do you also have to wear gloves with sandpaper on the palms to prevent yourself from jacking off in public?
 
I've played and finished most Souls games, but I never find any of them easy. Slow and steady and lots of cheesing the environment and AI.
 
Level 162? LMAO, I would hope it would be easy at that point. Jesus, you are overleveled to hell and back.

Edit: I just checked and you are more than twice the level of one of my NG+ characters. Do a Soul Level 1 run and get back to me.
 
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I'm enjoying the game considerably (almost halfway through NG+) but I've had a similar experience. Maneater was the only boss that gave me any trouble whatsoever, too. Much of the challenge comes from navigating your way from the Archstone to the boss fight, not so much from the bosses themselves. It's only really been since Bloodborne where I've felt the bosses were the source of much of the games' difficulty.

I wouldn't say it's "too easy" though - and NG+ is offering a greater challenge so far - but once I got over the hump of understanding how world tendency worked, I was able to cruise through most of the game. I had screwed up early on and made 2-1 and 4-1 black tendency, but I thought the game was surprisingly fair in how it allows for you to get tendency back to neutral.

But the game really does give out a fuck ton of health items, and there are some very obvious favorable spots for farming souls quickly and easily (4-2 and 4-3 especially). Using a bow also felt like it gave me much more of an edge in DeS than it did in other Souls games.
 
It still has a few hard moments but isn't too bad. It was really hard back in the day because it was fresh. A lot of us have played some of the other souls games now so we are coming into it with more experience then when it was originally released.
 
After you get used to what Souls games are demanding from you, they become easy.

Everything you're good at is easy for you.
 
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I wouldn't say this game is easy, I think it's harder than pretty much every current non souls game. The average person can't even beat tower knight an he was easy as hell. I agree somewhat though OP, this is my second souls games(first was bloodborne) an I just beat maneater which took a while cuz I died mostly from getting knocked off the damn bridge oh and there's a glitch that made one of them disappear an I had to restart. Outside of him every boss has been fairly average in terms of difficulty. I'm using royalty and Magic is OP as fuck.
 
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After you get used to what Souls games are demanding from you, they become easy.

Everything you're good at is easy for you.
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I think this is true, too. Bloodborne was a struggle for me as my first one, but Dark Souls 1-3 were a breeze (relatively speaking) when I played those later on. I think whichever one you played first will most likely be the most daunting.

Sekiro is a whole other deal, as it doesn't really give you any other path forward if you don't improve in combat. That game really humbled me a few times, and there was nothing I could do except "git gud". After getting the platinum in Sekiro, I think it's normal that combat in all of the Souls games would feel much more manageable. I've been thinking about going back to Bloodborne and just seeing how much better I am at it now; I approached combat much more timidly back then.
 
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I think this is true, too. Bloodborne was a struggle for me as my first one, but Dark Souls 1-3 were a breeze (relatively speaking) when I played those later on. I think whichever one you played first will most likely be the most daunting.

Sekiro is a whole other deal, as it doesn't really give you any other path forward if you don't improve in combat. That game really humbled me a few times, and there was nothing I could do except "git gud". After getting the platinum in Sekiro, I think it's normal that combat in all of the Souls games would feel much more manageable. I've been thinking about going back to Bloodborne and just seeing how much better I am at it now; I approached combat much more timidly back then.
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Agree. I got really good at Souls games and when Bloodborne hit, I had a REALLY hard time adjusting to the more aggressive and offensive style. After I best my nemesis, the Bloodstarved Beast, it clicked and I only died like five times until the end of the game.
 
So what you are saying is the first game in a series was way too easy for you now that you've played the last available game in a series?
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I found the areas to be annoyingly difficult to not die to but the actual encounters and bosses aren't that difficult. You also shouldn't be grinding and are very over leveled.
 
It surely is more easy than all the other games.

Bosses are very simple, the levels are already better in term of challenge, mostly because you fight in small spaces or very close to places where you fall off...

Still, more difficult than majority of AAA titles on hard, stuff like morales or valhalla are a fucking joke compared to demons.
 
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I agree, but I can also see how it advanced. That said lol don't level so much. What I love about the series is I can level the playing field, but you can also get over leveled.
 
With Demons Souls it was less about giving you crushing hard bosses and more about giving you unique fights.
 
Demon's Souls difficulty comes more from knowledge than quick reactions like the newer games. If you're looking everything up or have been playing for years already, then yeah, it's going to be easy.
 
If it's that easy why did you have to farm? And you're way way way overlevel, that's absurd. What a dumb thread.
 
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So just finished DS for the 2nd time, build level 162, started with Quality but now most stats are pretty high that i can use Spells and Miracles rather well. This game is way too easy imo, outside of 1 Boss (Manatear), all the rest is a Walk in The Park to the point i almost never died. I think it is way too easy to farm aswell, so my build went OP too fast, i used 4-2 to farm, i´m gaining 11K souls per 30/45 seconds.

Sekiro gave me the challenge of my life & i got the Platinum on that game, it was hard and relentless, DS feels like a walk in the park in comparison.
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Demon Souls was designed in a way that it would be difficult but manageable to people who had never experienced a souls game...so everyone at that point in time. Over time the souls series has evolved, boss mechanics are a bit more complex, and the general diffuculty curve has increased. They have designed the newer games in a way that its still somewhat of a challenge even if you use a meta character build. Demon souls was designed so someone playing it with aboslutely NO knowledge of game mechanics, what the stats do and how they interact with gear, etc would still be able to persist and advance.

This is akin to people that raid mythic difficulty content in WoW taking a break to go play Classic WoW and complaining the raid content is too easy. Of course it is, players were conditioned to game mechanics entirely differently back then. Game mechanics have evolved in response to players evolving their ability to handle the content.
 
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If you grind shit out of it, it becomes easy. Takes quiet long to reach that level.

Later souls games have more controlled grinding and sort of need you to have good skills.
 
Those games could use an offline only hard mode to replay it.

The first souls games where much more slower than the newer ones (DS3 included) so once you knoe the enemy locations and attack patterns they can get easy.
 
I beat NG+ on the original without tearing my hair out but I can remember being stuck for a few days at Flamelurker. Not sure how much harder it gets after NG+ as I never tried.

I wouldn't have read any guides back then and probably assigned souls fairly randomly so I can believe if you optimised you could brute force things fairly easily. If every game was balanced around having to cheese it though I know I would play a lot fewer games so I respect games that are possible with some patience.
 
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