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Destiny |OT12| Play. Whine. Repeat.
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MisterAnderson
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Any level 30+ on ps4 who has never done Crota's End want to fill up our last fireteam spot to do it fresh/spoiler and hint free?
PSN: Leonidas2123 or message/PM me here. We are waiting for 1 to get home and we will be good to go!
Please be aware that this is a first time run and are only looking for players who are going in without having done it yet or read up on how to beat the encounters.
PSN: Leonidas2123 or message/PM me here. We are waiting for 1 to get home and we will be good to go!
Please be aware that this is a first time run and are only looking for players who are going in without having done it yet or read up on how to beat the encounters.
DrDrizzay101
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Kor of Memory
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You don't need 2 huh? The wife and I were wanting to go in blind tonight.
Subtervotion
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Quoting for new page, still need 3 more.
MisterAnderson
Member
We might, actually. Haven't yet heard back from one who said theyd be ready by 7. Are you guys ready to go?
Kor of Memory
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Just need to jump in to the tower.
If you still need one more, I'm down. Psn Sh0g0nai27
MisterAnderson
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figadapaura
Member
Damn, we could definitely do better than 45 mins with our full raid team. Took a newbie level 30 through, so I think we did pretty well.
figadapaura
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:')
Killer work. That was pretty quick.
Kor of Memory
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Ok sounds good. Sorry bucyou88everyone is waiting to get started.
Kor_of_Memory for PSN
MisterAnderson
Member
Add me: Leonidas2123
It wasn't as pretty as the run you posted but that was my inspiration. And damn it's fun!
Twilight Gap
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gonna revise the whole iron banner sensei post from earlier. Posting on Reddit as well: http://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/2pj80k/sga_how_to_win_in_iron_banner_this_week/
Winning matters in Iron Banner, and the general level of competition is going to be higher as full teams test their might against other teams. Playing control competitively - especially against good teams - is considerably different than it normally is. As I've played with my teams and observed others, I've devised these strategies. Your results may vary, but I hope to equip you with some general pointers so that you don't end up with more medallions than your vault can hold.
There are 3 zones in Control: The Neutral Zone, the Spawn Flip Zone, and the Bad Zone. The Neutral Zone is always B, but the spawn flip zone is either A or C. The point of control is to hold the Neutral and Spawn Flip Zone and ignore the Bad Zone. These zones act as score multipliers, so it is crucial that you hold two. Which two you hold is the big question though. You want the Favorable Zones because they influence the map's spawning system.
The Spawn Flip and Neutral Zones are Favorable Zones because they give you safe spawns, easy access to heavy ammo, and the best lines of sight on the map. The Spawn Flip Zone gives you good lines of sight to defend and attack the Neutral Zone and it also is responsible for the greater spawn system on the map. The Bad Zone is unfavorable because it makes it difficult to approach the neutral zone and often gives you exposed spawns.
The following are strategies I've found work best on maps currently in Control. Again, your strategies may vary.
Firebase Delphi: A is the spawn flip zone and C is the bad zone.
If you spawn A, cap A and position people in A hallway (towards the middle of the map) so that you are always able to defend A. The rest of your team will defend B from A spawn and B window. If you spawn C, ignore C at all costs. Your team needs to rush A immediately and capture it. Going for B is usually a waste of time unless you have a strong CQB focus on your team, but you can keep their attention focused on you without actually engaging them so they are less focused on A. Breaking A and B setup requires constant pressure on A. A sniper to watch B loop always helps.
Blind Watch: C is the spawn flip zone. A is the bad zone.
If you spawn A, immediately run to C. For the duration of this game, you need to stay by C and B. You never want to engage B until you are in position to take C. A good way to break B and C is to have snipers watching the doors at B hallway and top B. Your best sniper should be bottom B because he's going to be responsible for keeping B clear.
Shores of Time: C is the spawn flip zone and A is the bad zone.
It's a bit more difficult to approach C here in case there are snipers around. B Tunnel and C Ring are the most important lanes on the map, and you'll need someone to watch both areas if you're going to push B or C, respectively. It's a good idea to have a sniper near B heavy and another one around B tunnel. C rock (the one most people snipe behind) is also good. Put pressure on B tunnel and C ring and always keep at eye on C cave.
Rusted Lands: C is the bad zone and A is the spawn flip zone.
If you have A and B, you don't ever want to cross the wall to the other side of the map. Hold A because A heavy is easy to get and you have high ground. You need players watching C window, C wall (above B tunnel), B tunnel (has a special ammo crate in it) and B street (the one with the windows and explosive crates). A player needs to be A window as well (giant window in front of A zone), but don't stick out too much or you'll be sniped from C window. If you lose A and B, you need a sniper at C window if you're going to break the set up.
Here is a video of the Rusted Lands set up against a solid team. This was done in Clash, but the map is played very similarly in Control https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoPeok8kSOM
Exodus Blue: A is the spawn flip zone and C is the bad zone.
C's spawns are exposed and don't have much cover. C also has a hard time approaching B from the front, whereas A spawn can run right into it with a super or shotgun. So you want A and B. Breaking A and B setup requires an A push from C and a lot of explosions on B. You don't want to approach A from A side unless you have a Super or Heavy weapon up.
Twilight Gap: A is the spawn flip zone and C is the bad zone.
C's heavy ammo is exposed and you're further away from B at all times. A stairway favors C spawn, but overall A and B are more advantageous. I'm personally not very good at this map (yes I know it's ironic) so any strategy that works is welcome.
General SGA:
-It bears repeating that if you go into a zone you don't need, they will spawn behind you. The only reason you'd ever want to capture 3 zones is to break a tie.
-Save your super for clearing out control points, killing a flanking player, or stopping a heavy ammo rush. Avoid using them for generic kills unless the score is very close.
-Save your heavy drops. Heavy ammo will still drop for you if you're within 20 meters when a teammate picks it up. I usually go near it and wait till later to pick it up as necessary. This is because everyone will be firing their heavies at this point and some may charge the heavy with their supers. I'll pick my heavy up after a death and use it to break a set up when they least expect it. In the rusted lands video above, my position is very important, so I can't leave it and grab heavy ammo. Instead, I position myself above it so that it drops for me later.
-If the score is close and you're spawning near the bad zone while your team is on the other side, neutralize it so they don't get the points. Don't do this if your team is dead because the enemy will spawn at their zone and your push will be lost.
-Be a pest. Battles don't always need to end in kills. As long as an enemy knows you're in a location, they'll be focused on you. This lets your team flank. This is important on Shores of Time.
-When you hold the two favorable zones, there's no need to be aggressive. You have map control, so unless the score is close or against you, the enemy will need to break your setup to take back the map. Playing passively is hard to learn, but it's essential to maintaining a lead.
Winning matters in Iron Banner, and the general level of competition is going to be higher as full teams test their might against other teams. Playing control competitively - especially against good teams - is considerably different than it normally is. As I've played with my teams and observed others, I've devised these strategies. Your results may vary, but I hope to equip you with some general pointers so that you don't end up with more medallions than your vault can hold.
There are 3 zones in Control: The Neutral Zone, the Spawn Flip Zone, and the Bad Zone. The Neutral Zone is always B, but the spawn flip zone is either A or C. The point of control is to hold the Neutral and Spawn Flip Zone and ignore the Bad Zone. These zones act as score multipliers, so it is crucial that you hold two. Which two you hold is the big question though. You want the Favorable Zones because they influence the map's spawning system.
The Spawn Flip and Neutral Zones are Favorable Zones because they give you safe spawns, easy access to heavy ammo, and the best lines of sight on the map. The Spawn Flip Zone gives you good lines of sight to defend and attack the Neutral Zone and it also is responsible for the greater spawn system on the map. The Bad Zone is unfavorable because it makes it difficult to approach the neutral zone and often gives you exposed spawns.
The following are strategies I've found work best on maps currently in Control. Again, your strategies may vary.
Firebase Delphi: A is the spawn flip zone and C is the bad zone.
If you spawn A, cap A and position people in A hallway (towards the middle of the map) so that you are always able to defend A. The rest of your team will defend B from A spawn and B window. If you spawn C, ignore C at all costs. Your team needs to rush A immediately and capture it. Going for B is usually a waste of time unless you have a strong CQB focus on your team, but you can keep their attention focused on you without actually engaging them so they are less focused on A. Breaking A and B setup requires constant pressure on A. A sniper to watch B loop always helps.
Blind Watch: C is the spawn flip zone. A is the bad zone.
If you spawn A, immediately run to C. For the duration of this game, you need to stay by C and B. You never want to engage B until you are in position to take C. A good way to break B and C is to have snipers watching the doors at B hallway and top B. Your best sniper should be bottom B because he's going to be responsible for keeping B clear.
Shores of Time: C is the spawn flip zone and A is the bad zone.
It's a bit more difficult to approach C here in case there are snipers around. B Tunnel and C Ring are the most important lanes on the map, and you'll need someone to watch both areas if you're going to push B or C, respectively. It's a good idea to have a sniper near B heavy and another one around B tunnel. C rock (the one most people snipe behind) is also good. Put pressure on B tunnel and C ring and always keep at eye on C cave.
Rusted Lands: C is the bad zone and A is the spawn flip zone.
If you have A and B, you don't ever want to cross the wall to the other side of the map. Hold A because A heavy is easy to get and you have high ground. You need players watching C window, C wall (above B tunnel), B tunnel (has a special ammo crate in it) and B street (the one with the windows and explosive crates). A player needs to be A window as well (giant window in front of A zone), but don't stick out too much or you'll be sniped from C window. If you lose A and B, you need a sniper at C window if you're going to break the set up.
Here is a video of the Rusted Lands set up against a solid team. This was done in Clash, but the map is played very similarly in Control https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoPeok8kSOM
Exodus Blue: A is the spawn flip zone and C is the bad zone.
C's spawns are exposed and don't have much cover. C also has a hard time approaching B from the front, whereas A spawn can run right into it with a super or shotgun. So you want A and B. Breaking A and B setup requires an A push from C and a lot of explosions on B. You don't want to approach A from A side unless you have a Super or Heavy weapon up.
Twilight Gap: A is the spawn flip zone and C is the bad zone.
C's heavy ammo is exposed and you're further away from B at all times. A stairway favors C spawn, but overall A and B are more advantageous. I'm personally not very good at this map (yes I know it's ironic) so any strategy that works is welcome.
General SGA:
-It bears repeating that if you go into a zone you don't need, they will spawn behind you. The only reason you'd ever want to capture 3 zones is to break a tie.
-Save your super for clearing out control points, killing a flanking player, or stopping a heavy ammo rush. Avoid using them for generic kills unless the score is very close.
-Save your heavy drops. Heavy ammo will still drop for you if you're within 20 meters when a teammate picks it up. I usually go near it and wait till later to pick it up as necessary. This is because everyone will be firing their heavies at this point and some may charge the heavy with their supers. I'll pick my heavy up after a death and use it to break a set up when they least expect it. In the rusted lands video above, my position is very important, so I can't leave it and grab heavy ammo. Instead, I position myself above it so that it drops for me later.
-If the score is close and you're spawning near the bad zone while your team is on the other side, neutralize it so they don't get the points. Don't do this if your team is dead because the enemy will spawn at their zone and your push will be lost.
-Be a pest. Battles don't always need to end in kills. As long as an enemy knows you're in a location, they'll be focused on you. This lets your team flank. This is important on Shores of Time.
-When you hold the two favorable zones, there's no need to be aggressive. You have map control, so unless the score is close or against you, the enemy will need to break your setup to take back the map. Playing passively is hard to learn, but it's essential to maintaining a lead.
MisterAnderson
Member
Sorry just filled up :/
DrDrizzay101
Member
Yeah 30 minutes or less will become standard soon, especially once more people start hitting Lv 32.
I read all of this and it still won't make me half as good as you in PvP.
Zoba, can I be your student? Please take me under your wing!
figadapaura
Member
I really don't know how we got it so perfect. I feel pressure every time now :lol.
No worries, you gotta be quick around here.
Maybe next time. I got home later tonight.
Yeah he kept running away after the first set of combos so we missed him once I think in our final run. Running scared!
Terrordactyl
Member
Going to run a CE raid around 930-10 pacific tonight on PS4 and we need 3. We've completed half of the raid last week, would kind of prefer some guys who've finished it.
figadapaura
Member
Imagine it with a group of 32s. Joke.
I guess we'll see what HM brings
more Knights and frustration.
Nope
the_log_ride
Member
I just forwarded this to some friends. Great stuff.
Byron Bluth
Banned
Anyone want to join Deku and I for back to back Nightfalls and Weeklies?
Starting up in 20 minutes. Join in on Cosmos_Man anytime!
Starting up in 20 minutes. Join in on Cosmos_Man anytime!
Was such a fast run.
I'll join up. Have to do them both on 2 more characters.
Just sent you an request. ShadowKayos
It resets every IB now.
SimpleCRIPPLE
Member
I got one from the first CE chest. Looks pretty good with Ruin Wings and Goldspiral.
zombiemortar
Member
Do you still have room? I have me and a buddy of mine. Level 31 Titan and a level 30 Hunter.
I equipped them for second run...I got the gloves and chest to go with the bug stompers i got first go round...had emblem equipped and cytherean bloom shader
I got it as a drop while farming helium coils on the moon tonight. Sword of Crota spawned and when I killed him he dropped it. Still working towards rank 2 so it's going to be a bit before I can get the legendary.