Crota HM (started from the Crota CP) gave me the helmet (again), 8 shards and Dragon's Breath - after last week of only getting 2 shards, the shader and a helmet it's an improvement but not much of one...
Still have 3 atheons left for that chance, I'll be putting a group together for it later today if anyone is interested in 3 back to back kills. Probably a few hours from now.
Our "usual" NF/WH party (you, me, and the other Dave) will be running 1x tonight if you wanna join. 7-ish (edit: CENTRAL).
I was debating running normal full CE after, but I think I'm burning out. I don't have the energy to set up the group, invite everyone, slog through it, get annoyed we aren't beating it, etc. I just want my legs or chest, then the Fang, and never go back into the Hellmouth.
Still have 3 atheons left for that chance, I'll be putting a group together for it later today if anyone is interested in 3 back to back kills. Probably a few hours from now.
Side note: are we going to raid on Friday night? HM Crota? I only need the Word of Crota to complete my collection. I'd also be down for some old school HM VoG. Basically, I just want a shot at an exotic (Horn).
It's very nice/complementary when people are appreciative about sword runners, but.... its very existence makes me fucking furious.
sometimes I have a temper
Raiding should be mechanically complex to give a group lots to think about and problems to solve. It's about an exciting, collaborative spirit where everyone can feel important and valuable. It shouldn't be "5 people stand around and try not to wipe the run while 1 person literally kills the boss by him/herself (i.e. HP bar). The stupidly tight timing windows that make the fight unplayable with noticeable lag are supposed to serve as a substitute for ACTUAL TEAMWORK. You know, where every person has an interesting role to contribute.
A big part of the unpleasant feeling during Crota fights is that no one else has a chance to feel good about themselves. Their minimal tasks are so dull, they can only ever feel bad for making a simple mistake.
"Shit, I fell off the ledge"
"Damn, Boomer hid behind that pillar, couldn't see him"
"Arrggh I blew myself up with a rocket."
"I was out of heavy synth..."
"Sorry I killed the knight before you used a super on him." (credit: LTWood)
I spent countless hours helping groups through VoG, everyone from Gaffers to Tower randos. Many of these randos are the scrubby non-gaf friends who hop into my party chats and embarrass me to this very day, haha. It was fantastic to watch each group grow through that learning process, understanding VoG's language until finally culminating at Atheon.
Hawk knows.
A well-executed Atheon run has an intoxicating rhythm that's never gotten old for me.
Running sword on Crota is completely different. It sounds terrible, but I feel like a kinder-guardian school teacher breaking down the strat: "Stand here, look there and shoot when I tell you to." To be clear: this is an insult to the encounter itself and not remotely to any other players. Nobody wants to waste hours learning all the stupid ways to fail at this point. I guess that's what I mean when I say I have a weird perspective on this game, Crota offends me on a strangely personal level.
Playing with everyone last night/this morning was a blast and everyone was right on point and still kept a good attitude despite the obvious frustrations. So thanks to everyone for a great team(s).
fake edit: Intentional top-o-page. Come at me, DGAF ╭∩╮(-_-)╭∩╮
Hi guys, i spent about 20 hours last week with various groups from LFG unable to kill Crota HM. Are there any groups that have done it here, and can i please join?
Our "usual" NF/WH party (you, me, and the other Dave) will be running 1x tonight if you wanna join. 7-ish (edit: CENTRAL).
I was debating running normal full CE after, but I think I'm burning out. I don't have the energy to set up the group, invite everyone, slog through it, get annoyed we aren't beating it, etc. I just want my legs or chest, then the Fang, and never go back into the Hellmouth.
Yeah I will be on around 7. I edited my previous post to tell Dazzler I'd run his with him a little later (if he's ok with that).
I'm still pumped after our run last night. Granted it wasn't the whole raid and I didn't even get one weapon drop, but it was still fun. I still don't even have the Black Hammer and need the chest and boots for my Hunter (got my 2nd helmet last night).
Funny you should say that. I took some time off from VoG over the last few weeks. Gave it a go with a GAF group this past weekend. It was so much more fun than Crota. As you said, the rhythm is addictive.
The Atheon fight itself is much more well-paced in general. Also, when an auto-wipe glitch happens, it's not that big of a deal. With Crota, a glitch (which I still say is way more frequent than anything I've seen with Atheon) means you wipe and have to go back and spend what seems like 10 mins taking out those adds at the beginning AGAIN. Obnoxious and pace-killing.