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Destiny |OT16| Enrage is here, there, everywhere...
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How on earth was that figured out, especially B?
edit: not that I doubt, I'm just amazed
Not even surprised anymore, but what a bunch of bs.
You don't need to have gotten Glowhoo on a character to get theCrux. Glowhoo is NOT a requirement nor is doing hard mode first. It's all RNG based. I know of one gaffer who got the Crux in their first Hard mode completion. I also know of one irl who got the crux the same way. It's all RNG based.
squidhands
Member
Hawkian showed us a good strategy on our newbie VoG raid (hopefully I get it right, haven't been able to play the raid since, lol)
using the above picture as reference, get the entire team up to the far right platform. Shoot as many oracles as you can, doesn't matter if you get marked by the ones you can't. Since you're all grouped together, you can get cleansed easily by the relic holder. There's great cover there, and the team can totally hold down the area while getting great shots on the Templar (hopefully someone in the group has Weapons of Light, and pops it behind the big rock before unloading on the Templar).
Our newbie team got it done in no time at all, no wipes. Based Hawkian, hopefully I explained it properly.
How on earth was that figured out, especially B?
edit: not that I doubt, I'm just amazed
Yep, don't know how, but it's in Planet Destiny's Necrochasm review.
I actually think Ghorn will never again be sold by Xur. It is the carrot that when you have everything else you need, you will still play for. It is also why we will never see trading. If you can round out your collection of weapons, you will most likely get to the point of standing in the tower not knowing what to do next. This is the point that they never want you to be at.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5opJttQ_No
Not that I doubt your girl but maybe there's more to it. I know the group I got it with, we killed Crota on Hard at reset the second week, and 5 out of 6 got the Crux. Maybe it significantly increases the probability.
CouchMaster
Member
Ruin Wings + Jellyhorn = ROC strike speedrun.
Aha, finally uploaded. My P.O.V. of yesterday's Crota Hard Mode kill with Drizz, MandrakeUK, HigXx, Macello and Kenshiro.
I'm running interference on the boomers and take a comedy death from a thrall right at the very end as I'm watching Drizz do his thang with the sword and keeping one eye on the boomers. Thralls run into the bubble and take me out before I realised what was going on!
http://youtu.be/ckeEYzYOKvU
I'm running interference on the boomers and take a comedy death from a thrall right at the very end as I'm watching Drizz do his thang with the sword and keeping one eye on the boomers. Thralls run into the bubble and take me out before I realised what was going on!
http://youtu.be/ckeEYzYOKvU
There have been people here and on reddit who got the crux in their first hard mode completion. Some have mentioned they got it on an alt that never got Glowhoo. When these people have gotten the Crux without having done those said "requirements" it all just points to the drop being completely random.
Yeah, I never got the Vex and sure as hell won't bother with the Necrochasm. All I wanted was the Abyss Defiant so no need to do Crota HM.
Hawkian showed us a good strategy on our newbie VoG raid (hopefully I get it right, haven't been able to play the raid since, lol)
using the above picture as reference, get the entire team up to the far right platform. Shoot as many oracles as you can, doesn't matter if you get marked by the ones you can't. Since you're all grouped together, you can get cleansed easily by the relic holder. There's great cover there, and the team can totally hold down the area while getting great shots on the Templar (hopefully someone in the group has Weapons of Light, and pops it behind the big rock before unloading on the Templar).
Our newbie team got it done in no time at all, no wipes. Based Hawkian, hopefully I explained it properly.
That sounds like an excellent strategy. We'll give it a go, thanks.
Ha, you know it. Imagine every Destiny encounter where the entire fireteam is brandishing Gjallerhon. They'd have to nerf it so hard - I've seen that video where the Nightfall fireteam killed Omingul in 10 seconds as they were all using Gjallerhorn. Imagine every encounter with that level of firepower, it would break the game.
I don't reckon Xur is ever going to sell it. Aside from the above, it seems to be one of the only potential drops driving some players.
I just want Hawkmoon and Gjallerhorn and the Vex.
The Mango Sentinel
Member
Seriously. I can't remember the last Archon Priest nightfall. It's been a LONG ass time.
Like last week, i'm placing a bet on the Archon Priest, it's been far too long this strike hasn't pop up as the Weekly
But ... i was already wrong last week so it might be Valus ...PrivateWHudson
Member
But it already broke the game to the point that they felt the need to hamstring everyone doing CE by making HM 33 instead of 32. It's built with the knowledge that some team members will have GHorn, and it's a slog for those that don't.
Whoa Whoa WHOA! What is this slander towards NLB!?
NLB at its absolute worst still has entertainment value in using it in crucible killing people with it, Necrochasm is a piece of shit no matter what you try to use it for.
Is there a new cheese spot after they fixed underneath the ramp?
Think they'd mind if we take their pikes?
I'm feeling like I will probably be around during reset if anyone on my FL wants to knock out at least one NF.
Dhruv_hanom
Member
Don't know about (b) Carbon, auto_aim, cosmos, kadey and silver did a reset HM raid and got all of them got the crux
Hawkian showed us a good strategy on our newbie VoG raid (hopefully I get it right, haven't been able to play the raid since, lol)
using the above picture as reference, get the entire team up to the far right platform. Shoot as many oracles as you can, doesn't matter if you get marked by the ones you can't. Since you're all grouped together, you can get cleansed easily by the relic holder. There's great cover there, and the team can totally hold down the area while getting great shots on the Templar (hopefully someone in the group has Weapons of Light, and pops it behind the big rock before unloading on the Templar).
Our newbie team got it done in no time at all, no wipes. Based Hawkian, hopefully I explained it properly.
Good strategy, done that a few times. Stay on the right as a group, kill the 3 oracles that spawn nearby, ignore the others and cleanse as required.
This other reliable strategy I've done a few times is if, from spawn:
1) Only one player goes down to pick up the relic
2) The other 5 stay at the top and array themselves around on the cliff face until they can see all the 'non hidden' oracle locations*
3) The relic holder hangs around at the back killing enemies and deals with the two hidden oracles.
4) Cliff guys deal with the easy oracles (and shoot the templar occasionally)
*It is possible to get position on the cliff and see the hidden oracles too.
This strategy works well for icebreaker users. Theoretically no need to ever cleanse and you should all be able to handle the oracles as and when they appear. Makes for a very chilled encounter if you're on the cliff, less so if you're dashing around at the bottom...
And that's why I hope they don't sell it (for the greater good), but hope they up the drop rate a bit. None us of want our precious weapon nerfed.
squidhands
Member
Nice, I'll have to try that one out some time.
Same, it looks cool. The only thing that might make me try CE HM again after reset,
I actually like it A LOT more than I expected. Favorite ship in the game currently.
CouchMaster
Member
Archon Priest with void burn, count on it.
Is the Saterienne Rapier worth grinding crucible for? It looks good and I've heard people talking about it in this thread somewhat. I started playing crucible yesterday for the first time since the last iron banner to grind up to level 3. How would you guys rate the Fang versus the Rapier (minus elemental burn)?
Regardless of the obvious DLC push, the excuse that they designed Xur to be completely random feels, to be blunt, shortsighted. Yes, a certain level of randomness is fine, but there should be so random that they, the developers of the game, have to accept whatever the Vendor program spits out. Some level of control should always be in your hands, because you want to avoid repeats and have the possibility to react to community feedback. I dont think its as random as they claim, because, like you said, the push for the Crota DLC is so obvious. There is some level of politics going on here, its not fully the cause but there is no denying that it certainly feels like it played a part.
Druhv - Exactly what I'm saying; almost all of my group got the Crux at reset, and it seems all of Kadey's group got it at reset as well.
While I agree there's some RNG, if it was entirely RNG we would've had way more Cruxes dropping the first week.
None here got it the first week, and only very little reports worldwide (I remember that video of the German dude). This all indicates there's likely something at play more than pure RNG.
If I was hunting for the Crux, I would attempt hard clears before normal ones. At worst, your chances remain the same, and at best, you put a little more probability on your side.
CouchMaster
Member
I am pretty sure they adjusted Crux drop rate after reset after hearing reports that its not dropping for anyone, then re-adjusted it when they saw that they overdid it. If you ask anyone who has a Crux, most will tell you they got it on first day of reset.
Zoso Achilles
Member
I'd say it's more likely that the weighting was very low the first week and was subsequently increased the second week.
silver.tongue
Member
Yep. Thats what i`m thinking. They ajusted then re-ajusted later.
This makes sense too, if so, lol Bungie
Noisepurge
Member
you should also finish the Templar before the Minotaurs spawn, they just make that phase way too difficult.
Jinjo
Member
It wouldn't break the game. I've often rolled in full Ballarhorn teams for nightfalls and both raids, you're severly overestimating its power. A burn makes any weapon OP btw.
I agree, it's the Guardian not the weapon that would make it OP.
squidhands
Member
Even though I was late to the party for the Vault of Glass, I'm really happy to find out that Corrective Measure is still a damn fine machine gun.
The stats are pretty much the same. So the relevant differences are:
Saterienne Rapier
+ Outlaw
+ Firefly
- Small magazine (13 rounds)
Fang of Ir Yut
+ Arc Damage
+ Field Scout
+ Third Eye
+ Hive Disruptor
- No Firefly
I'm still using my Rapier for the abyss in CE as Firefly is the perfect way of dealing with thralls, but elsewhere I'm using the Fang.