Oooj pvp. I would join that train, wanna troll around with bladedander with Mida multi-toolI wakeup today decided to load Destiny to see Xur inventory.
Loaded the app only.
Back to sleep.
I will load only Bloodborne tonight... Destiny only on Sunday for some PVP
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Destiny |OT19| Raiders of the Lost
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No you just lose all the glimmer, xp, mats, etc you put into leveling a weapon when you trade it in. You get nothing in return for it. Same result as if you just traded in a completely unleveled version.
Darknyss09
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OUCH. Reminds me of the time I bought 6 helm engrams and 3 turned into Inmost Light.I bought 4 gauntlet engrams hoping to get an upgraded version of sunbreakers.
Got trolled by 4 No Backup Plans
He sold Sunbreakers 7 weeks ago and I snatched them up then.
GAF, has anyone of you experience with playing Destiny through the Playstation TV? If so, any good? My gf is moving in later this year, we'll have two TVs but only one PS4; if the experience is solid enoug I might consider getting it (I already have a Vita so yeah, I can test that).
You level it up, but dont actually upgrade it. You will then get more ass, and a chanse at a telemetry
Edit: nvm, im talking about something else here.
Congrats!
I'll add you for future play sessions. We're always doing shit during the mid-week lol.
No, what I'm saying is; if you need to upgrade a weapon to the 331 version because you only have 1 300 version, if it's already maxed, you're getting screwed by trading it in worse than if you just had an unleveled 300 version. My point is upgrading weapons costs too much, but it costs EVEN MORE if you're trading in a maxed (or even somewhat leveled) version of a gun as opposed to a unleveled version.
Edit: saw your edit
Ruthless_Barbarian
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I won't ever use sunbreakers, they're pretty terrible but just wanted the upgraded version for collection :/
I remember when Xur used to sell them every week and pissed off so many warlocks
I won't ever use sunbreakers, they're pretty terrible but just wanted the upgraded version for collection :/
I remember when Xur used to sell them every week and pissed off so many warlocks
Sunbreakers are amazing in pvp, tho. Only outclassed by heart of the praxic fire, or voidfang vestments+gift of the sun
Edit: lolnope,.wrong gloves, this not claws of ahamkara.
Sunbreakers a shit.
Ruthless_Barbarian
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PVP = voidwalker. I'll never take a sunsinger into pvp.
Sunsinger is great in pvp. Cannot outright the nuke, but activating radiance and carpetbombing a spawnpoint with grenades is the shiznit.
It doesn't help they also ignore a ton of issues they could address such as weapon balance or a million other things.
rasengan1337
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they just need to drop supporting PS3/360... XD
This has been said a billion times before, but if they would just allow general inventory items to stack higher than they do (+20 for ammo packs, +200 for destination mats), most of my vault issues would be solved immediately. I have mats and ammo packs taking up the vast majority of my vault space because of this.
If display memory is the issue (interactive # of items on the screen at one time), then this would make the most sense. Instead of 5 ammo stacks of 20 each having to be displayed on the screen, you'd have 1 with 100. The only thing that changes is the # "20" to the # "100" and you can open 4 slots in your vault (or character inventory). Not only that but I am constantly at 200 marks on each character, and with no weapons left to buy, I have to keep buying mats... this seems to be taking up more space than anything else. I have more of each than I'll use from now til Destiny 7. Most of the time I just stay at the cap and lose out on gaining additional marks because I can't hold anymore mats.
Increase the stack count max for this stuff. This has to be the easiest solution.
If display memory is the issue (interactive # of items on the screen at one time), then this would make the most sense. Instead of 5 ammo stacks of 20 each having to be displayed on the screen, you'd have 1 with 100. The only thing that changes is the # "20" to the # "100" and you can open 4 slots in your vault (or character inventory). Not only that but I am constantly at 200 marks on each character, and with no weapons left to buy, I have to keep buying mats... this seems to be taking up more space than anything else. I have more of each than I'll use from now til Destiny 7. Most of the time I just stay at the cap and lose out on gaining additional marks because I can't hold anymore mats.
Increase the stack count max for this stuff. This has to be the easiest solution.
CouchMaster
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Totally forgot today was Xurday :lol
Yep, but it makes too much such sense so they can't do such things.
Ruthless_Barbarian
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This is Bungie we're talking about..
except that Destiny is selling quite good particularly on 360.
At least they should come out with two versions of the game without insisting on 100% parity... let me know when Activision drops the PS360 version of CoD
Ruthless_Barbarian
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If you play Voidwalker, Obsidian Mind is the best exotic for warlocks.
They also have problems analyzing statistics properly lol
I'll add you... I'm not going to be able to do them until later, though. I'm always looking for XB1 GAF folks, though.
nikos
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Guess that settles it, then. Thanks!
Not only that, but it seems like helmets are always harder to get. Vendor legendary helmets cost more (commendation required) and Crota's End helmet doesn't drop as often as the other armor pieces.
The last weapon balance changes caused a great calamity in this thread though.
The fact they brought up how few people have full vaults as an excuse as to why this vault issue really only affects a small number of people is just amazing to me. They literally JUST implemented the vault sharing feature in the app. How they missed that you have to have empty slots in your vault to use this system and used that in the BWU is beyond me. Yes we have empty slots in our vault. We keep deleting shit we would otherwise want to keep because we HAVE to keep open slots in the vault to use this feature.
I just can't.
GuitarAtomik
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This is what scares me the most. I can see Activision insisting on last gen versions of Destiny 2 because of it. Hopefully the landscape will be different enough and other games will have proven that current gen only is viable by the time that decision is made, or if they have to, they just make them separate games. I'm going to be super annoyed if Destiny 2 is held back by current gen consoles.
king picollo
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I wish they'd stepped up the launch date for the new content.
I'm running out of desire to play as there just isn't much for me to obtain anymore.
I'm running out of desire to play as there just isn't much for me to obtain anymore.
HiredN00bs
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Must have missed this one. Isn't there a vault solution coming in the next patch?
Too many people at Bungie play Destiny too much to not understand these common problems.
They really do. At least for Comet I hope they drop last gen. It's just holding everything back.
I'd be shocked if Destiny 2 has last gen versions, because that'll have been 4 or 5 years into current gen.
I think Deej is just given raw statistical data and he never bothers interpreting it correctly.
Honestly, I'd be shocked if Destiny 2 is just another HD port of an old gen game. I can see another studio working along Bungie in making the second game or even just having it be current gen.
I shook my head at this, too.
I sometimes wonder if they're actually idiots or being deliberately obtuse to make things seem better than they are to other idiots.
I'm inclined to think they actually ARE idiots, because with the autorifle balance patch, they actually went out of their way to acknowledge the autorifle headshot bounty IN THE SAME UPDATE as nerfing autorifles because they had a disproportionate amount of kills in PVP. Don't misunderstand me; I do think autorifles, especially some specific ones, needed to be toned down a bit. I just hate how they arrived at the conclusion by trumpeting "data!" and misunderstanding it so, so badly.
This said, I'll happily take my "stopgap" slots. Even more (pages/tabs) will be a great boon to "quality of life" for end game players, but what the screenshot from the update represents frees up enough space to greatly facilitate using the app to move stuff around between 2-3 characters for NF/raid/pvp loadouts.
What would be an amazing surprise patch would be updating the app/website to actually do what that chrome app is pretending to do: letting us move items *directly* from one character to another. I have a feeling this is a bigger issue due to the back end of how they control item transferring, though. So maybe with the extra slots, they could adopt the functionality of the chrome app that uses vault slots as the middle man.
Yes there is a vault expansion coming.
However, in the BWU, they made comments about how few people actually have full vaults as if to say it wasn't as big of an issue as people are claiming it to be. Aka "yeah we know you want more vault space, but look at this data; the data says most of you don't even need it!."
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#numbersdolie
ReignofSparrows
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Anyone want to do some salvage today? Looking to cross that off my Grimoire checklist.
iRAWRasaurus
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numbers don't lie.. Bungie is prob looking at every single account. Aka even people who log in once and stop playing.
The remaining players mosty likely are the few players that have everything.
That isn't my point though. I am one of those players who doesn't currently have a full vault so I fit in the same category as a player who has played 1 day and never again. This does not mean I'm not in desperate need of more storage. Again, I have to keep a few slots empty in the vault at all times to use the new vault sharing feature.
In this case, numbers do lie. It does not give any sort of indication of how many players "need" more vault space. Their data is correct, the analysis of the data is not.
Picked up Mida for my Hunter and Obsidian Mind for my Warlock. I have a scout rifle I love (Another NITC with firefly), so Mida will be a special purpose weapon when I want speed; not being able to use any other exotic with it will limit the use. That said, it was a joy to use on the daily. Great gun.
I think they were explaining their prioritization process. The vault space is an issue that affects a relatively small % of the player base. Many of us just happen to be in that portion affected. It's been in the works for months, and I seriously doubt the app addition made much of a dent in how much stuff people are hoarding.
I think they were explaining their prioritization process. The vault space is an issue that affects a relatively small % of the player base. Many of us just happen to be in that portion affected. It's been in the works for months, and I seriously doubt the app addition made much of a dent in how much stuff people are hoarding.
You will love it for running the Abyss.
Yeah, the app sharing feature and the additional vault space are both VERY welcome features/changes. And yes, I would agree, the vault space is likely only a big issue for a small # of players considering the entire player base.. but you can't tell that from the data they presented saying most of players out there don't even have full vaults. That's all I'm saying.
iRAWRasaurus
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Data numbers are correct but how bungie analysis them is wrong
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Edit is how I review it. But you are prob looking at the numbers that bungie got from analyzing is wrong, which I view as thier method is incorrect. Raw data is true but how they view it is incorrect.
Data numbers are correct but how bungie analysis them is wrong
Yeah, I think you're both saying the same thing. Numbers are just numbers. It's up to the person interpreting them to understand why they're the way they are, and what that actually means.
This is what I was driving at in my post, above. Either they're genuinely dreadful at understanding even how to approach interpreting them, or they're willfully spinning the data to make themselves look better. "We analyzed the data, and we didn't REALLY need to increase vault space. But we are benevolent masters, and are granting you space anyway. YOU'RE WELCOME." I honestly don't think they're that clever. I think they suck at analysis.
Data numbers are correct but how bungie analysis them is wrong
How Bungie is analyzing the numbers in a Deej weekly update could be very different from the way they truly look at the numbers internally. Certain things they may choose to say or not say for public image reasons.
Blue Ninja
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MIDA is fucking baller, jesus christ.
And right as I type that I get a weasel error during the daily. For fuck's sake.
And right as I type that I get a weasel error during the daily. For fuck's sake.
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