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Destiny |OT22| Game of Thorns
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MrGreencastle
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Well I apologize if you feel that way, in no way did I mean to be condescending. To me, the cop out is ignoring a proven viable strategy to beat the mechanics as intended within the confines of the sandbox. Yes, for the Arena bosses so far, Gjallarhorn spamming and synthing is well within the confines of the sandbox and has proven effective. It's OK if you can't do it first try, or first ten tries, or first one hundred. I didn't beat Legendary with skulls in Halo without a thousand "wipes".
But it's not impossible or broken in my opinion, just highly difficult. People have done it. It's the hardest thing in the game for a reason, as designed. There are lower difficulty versions for those that don't want to practice to make a good strategy to beat it. No one should get that loot for free, it should be earned. That said, I fully believe that most people here can do these fights - especially if they can or have done a Raid. And if they're on Xbox One, I'll even put my money where my mouth is and help out if they're stuck on 34 this week. Don't let the game beat you. Frustration is part of it and you'll come out the other side a better player, guaranteed, and some fancy new toys, too (maybe).
That was a good guide. Thanx for the link! I now know I lucked out on that Low-Humility drop. Although I've been looking out for that blue one you have posted for months to no avail!
BreezyLimbo
Banned
We did it legitly, me nami and silver. Got the cipher. Got a pistol. It was fun.
Also the bounty is dropping consistently for 2 people at a time off 35 skolas.
Oh, I don't feel that way. No, I can do the arena with or without the gjalla strat quite fine. It's that I'm calling out your tone, telling people to 'get good' isn't creating a discussion. It's you coming out and saying 'Look at these people! I told you how to do it! It's your fault you're not good enough!'. It's a cop out. It's insulting to players who aren't as skilled.
Also the bounty is dropping consistently for 2 people at a time off 35 skolas.
Oh, I don't feel that way. No, I can do the arena with or without the gjalla strat quite fine. It's that I'm calling out your tone, telling people to 'get good' isn't creating a discussion. It's you coming out and saying 'Look at these people! I told you how to do it! It's your fault you're not good enough!'. It's a cop out. It's insulting to players who aren't as skilled.
DrDrizzay101
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Most raid bosses "wipe" attacks are not insta-wipes: they drain your super energy and then you die when it reaches zero (Crota's Oversoul, Atheon's "lost in dark corners"). For most encounters it's the same difference but Templar is a great exception (holy cow I love Templar).
If marked by oracles, the Templar's ritual drains your super but you still have time to get cleansed before it bottoms out and kills you. Another important wrinkle is that the relic holder will have their relic super drained but leave the character's super intact which allows for warlocks to still self res and save a run. Draining the Guardian's light instead of killing their HP bar is a really nice, subtle bit of mechanical storytelling.
I definitely agree with your overall point about more variety though.
xVaalbarAx
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So you're saying I have a chance at Elemental primaries tonight? Aw yeah
Sentinalprimus
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Honestly I would love Bungie just to cut the crap with the burn on Skolas. Then people will have to learn the fight, but also won't have to put up with shit one shooting you. Making it overly difficult just by smacking a burn on it is not a smart way to design an encounter. I don't want to be constantly gimped everytime I peak out of cover.
figadapaura
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Has ambush, but no shortgaze. I'll have to level it up first to see if it's any good.
MrGreencastle
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Hey now you are just piling up on something that I didn't even say and being mean... :/
Of course you should play it how you want. The "earning" thing is the loot that you get for beating the high level content. The new gun, the trophy, the cheevo, the high score. Whatever you want to call it that is what you are "earning".
I think people are taking their frustrations over not currently being able to complete Very Hard content and venting them at people who are trying to help. I've already written a number of posts explaining some viable strategies and somehow I'm getting called condescending for telling people to practice and get better at the game in order to beat it. What the heck, Guardians. :/
Sentinalprimus
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Yeah but you'll likely get this
I was happy and sad at the same time when this dropped. Though if they ever patch ARs again it might be good for the Solar Burn Nightf... oh wait they never happen. 
Hey that's what I got last night. Mine's void. Almost left that shit right on the ground at his feet.
Both are void. I dismantled my new one right in front of him.
Uhhh--for your clan, shouldn't it read like this?
Must be horny.
Must be sexy 34.
Must have a six pack or large two pack.
Must have a sexy salary.
Must speak a minimum of five Kama Sutra "languages."
Love my HTC m8. No issues.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
Oh so I did a Judgements chance, got a wolfslayer autorifle with a 'Does extra damage to Fallen Enemies' in general, not just a specific type.
It's a keeper.
Also the elder cipher drops from any PoE right guys? Right?
It's a keeper.
Also the elder cipher drops from any PoE right guys? Right?
Forerunner
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Yeah but you'll likely get this
If they ever decide to buff AR I'm ready! Have this guy just waiting to go.
Orthogonal
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Well damn, I got a Low Grade Humility drop last week and ended up dismantling since I already had so many snipers.
THANK YOU kindly sir!
I will be also be "hosting" this CP forward the rest of the week via remote play.
My general approach to this kind of thing is, if Bungie is going to make things hard through those kind of means, then anything goes. The alternative is instadeath. In extreme cases, certain situations can be made so brutal that the challenge isn't so much figuring out how to play the encounter or boss, but how to stay out of the field of battle entirely. Avoiding a fight is a reasonable approach.
After last night's run on level 32 and seeing what the boss did - which was not fun - I'm all for aggressive counter measures. Fair's fair.
I keep and getting the extra damage to shanks perk and you get this beauty? Fuck this shit.
Liquidsnake
Banned
So you guys rerolling the Queen launcher to Arc Tripod, and tracking?
BreezyLimbo
Banned
I keep and getting the extra damage to shanks perk and you get this beauty? Fuck this shit.
git gud
at rng
That long? felt like it went alot faster. Can't wait to see the video!
NullPointer
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Is that the one that roasts the entire floor with solar burn? Gotta admit that reading about that particular boss and community workarounds makes me just want to skip on it.
I also wish that the extra armor/health afforded to certain enemies would have some counter besides just pouring on the damage. Just as Halo had certain weapons to wipe shields while others were better for armor and flesh, Destiny could definitely use some of that action.
ShaperofStories
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Who's up for PoE 32 or 34?
MrGreencastle
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Look, I think you're projecting onto my posts. I provided my strategy that worked for me. Not THE strategy. Everyone needs to practice and work together to make a strategy that can work for them. The only tone I tried to have in my posts is one of encouragement to help complete to content rather than whining that the encounter is not creative or impossibly hard when it's the most creative stuff the game has had yet. It is supposed to be highly difficult by design.
Point is, there will always be content in this game that will only reward you if you can make it past a certain skill threshold. The good news is that with enough practice and teamwork you CAN do it. We all started somewhere. Skill isn't something that just stays the same. With more experience you can get better at the game and earn the loot just like everyone else.
I'm getting tired of people calling me condescending or insulting (the real cop out that kills discussion) for trying to help or have a discussion about the Very Hard content being Very Hard, though, so I'm going to get back to playing for a bit. Good luck.
It's not THAT bad... just jump when the floor is burning, fire rockets or black hammer. Having a titan for a shield bubble really helps.
I ran it 3 times this morning, though. We didn't wipe on the boss at all. We wiped on the stage before when he had a couple sloppy mine defuse efforts.
Titan or Warlock level 33 looking for the same, 32 or 34. PSN Shokleeto
NullPointer
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The stuff I read here in the previous OT talked about hunters being screwed against that boss. Is that no longer the case? Is a Void Titan in the group mandatory?
Haven't gotten a crew together to try it yet, but impressions from here also turned me off it a bit. That and the game seems dead set against me ever getting any Treasure Keys.
silver.tongue
Member
Did I start our run as a 33? I didn't notice that. Sorry if that was the case.
You forgot a Grimoire score of 3200 and a 10 inch schlong... lol
It's actually fun... Hunter triple jump, Titan bubble and Warlock self-res. Became really easy.
If they ever decide to buff AR I'm ready! Have this guy just waiting to go.
I hate that zoom perk, it really kills dps for AR
bungie should give the option toggle on/off some of the perks.
Rolled Tripod + grenade and horseshoes on mine for PVP. Don't remember the element cause who cares
Forerunner
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Well damn, I got a Low Grade Humility drop last week and ended up dismantling since I already had so many snipers.
I've dismantled well over five by now. I never snipe in pvp, so it doesn't matter to me. When I say I never snipe, I mean it.
lol
My personal opinion is similar to yours. This is my opinion:
It's okay to cheese the Nightfall bosses.
It's okay to cheese Crota's Bridge on normal unless someone in the team has never done it before, because everyone should do it legit at least once.
It's always okay to cheese Crota's Bridge on hard.
It's okay to Cheese a Hive round on PoE with Arc Burn, because that's just a horrible experience. (I just found out about this, thanks fireteam!)
The rest of the time, I will go with the majority of my fireteam/raid group. If they want to cheese, I'm fine. Otherwise, guns up, let's do this.
ShaperofStories
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Dr_LawyerCop
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I read on reddit, but was wondering if someone can confirm, if I re-roll my spear it'll have old sniper perks (field scout, final round)? I have 3, and I want to try and get one that's arc and field scout for this weeks PoE 35. I have a solar one that I thought I'd use in trials, but the sights were just garbage.
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