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[Night Angel]

If Bungie was smart, they'd make the iron banner gear give you 30 light so PvPbros could progress. Maybe setting up specific goals in IB (like exotic bounties) to get pieces... hmmm...

 

[HighOnPCP]

Why is getting Thorn the most annoying and time consuming extoci bounty but it's the worst weapon? I actually really don't want it but I'll do it just because and then probably put it in the vault so it can catch rust. On a positive though, GOT POCKET INFINITY bounty today....finished today. yeaa

 

[squidyj]

If Bungie was smart, they'd make the iron banner gear give you 30 light so PvPbros could progress. Maybe setting up specific goals in IB (like exotic bounties) to get pieces... hmmm...

guaranteed progress from PvP? cause that wouldn't unbalance everything.

 

[KeRaSh]

Can we get the Iron Banner gear as random drops after matches, or is it only through faction rep and marks?

 

[hillsighed]

Bad Juju does indeed suck ass.. Until you upgrade it. I got the upgrade for the instant reload yesterday and it's pretty much the best PvE gun now. Of course I'd never take it into pvp with that shitty clip size, but maybe the buff Bungie's bringing will help.

Bad JuJu is still trash even with the reload upgrade. The second you face an enemy you can't kill within that small clip...ugh.

 

[Ken]

Can we get the Iron Banner gear as random drops after matches, or is it only through faction rep and marks?

i'm betting the latter

i assume it'll work very similar to queen's bounties but much bigger time investment per bounties

 

[Hzoltan69]

Is there a way to cheese the void damage thing? Can I get, like a fireteam of six together, go into free for all, and then just have them line up to die 100 times?

Yes, you can do that (friend did it yesterday)... just don't tell Bungie.

 

[TatteredHat]

Managed to get a Void damage Supremacy on the final Queen's Wrath token I got yesterday, already had a Solar damage Supremacy... didn't manage to get the Arc damage version before the event ends but 2/3 isn't bad I suppose. Hopefully we'll see the event return in the future so I can complete the set.

Also managed to finish off the Nightfall right before the reset, Arc damage Rocket Launcher made short work of both the tank and the boss.

On another note, the Bad Juju bounty is such a pain in the butt, after finishing the Nightfall you shouldn't have to complete 25 strikes afterwards. If they don't want to change that then at least let me put the bounty in the vault so that it doesn't permanently take up a slot.

 

[doomquake]

I don't like the look of the Iron Banner gear at all

Yeah..this is sad. Queens and iron banner have some intern designing the gear rewards or something.

 

[Night Angel]

guaranteed progress from PvP? cause that wouldn't unbalance everything.

You're right, because RNGing the raid over and over is the epitome of balance and smart design.

Whereas setting goals and requirements to progress that are transparent (though not necessarily easy) would just be a massive clusterfuck.

 

[Daigoro]

Speaking of bounty experience, what's the exact science behind that? The experience spreads out evenly to everything equipped, both weapons and armor, that has not yet been maxed?

So, if you want to funnel all the experience to one item, just equip weapons and armor in all of the other slots that has already been maxed out?

Remember to equip fully upgraded items in all other slots to funnel all bounty XP to exotics you want to level.

edit: coincidence...

holy crap, did not know that. thank guys!

 

[Ruthless_Barbarian]

Got 4 waiting for you two in orbit. Friend requests sent.

Team was full when I tried to join, was helping a friend with the weekly heroic.

 

[bGanci]

So this is just a mode where I get stomped by people who have better luck than me and people who raid?

I have played for 40 hours now, had 1 legendary engram that turned into a shard and still not seen an exotic item or bounty. My primary weapons only do 224 dmg.

Queens Bounty easy Chest/helm, Save Motes of light/strange coins for Xur. 40 hours and only 1 legendary?

The actual event mechanics, not so much.

I will reserve judgment until i get my hands on the playlist. It's pretty much a chance to get some cool looking armor/shaders/marks. I was mostly referring to the page itself.

 

[joecanada]

Queens Bounty easy Chest/helm, Save Motes of light/strange coins for Xur. 40 hours and only 1 legendary?

I've never seen one exotic bounty and I bet I have more hours than that in... But honestly for the time spent pvp is kinda worth it, I'm rank 2.5 now and just bought all my legendary armour

 

[Mr_Antimatter]

And it turns out the Thorn itself doesn't even do Void damage... It's a shitty bounty, but yeah, your best chance is stocking up on Void weapons. Don't think FFA works like that.

I only have three void weapons on that character: a HMG, a shotgun (the comedian) and a fusion rifle (Light/Beware).

Maybe I just need to level those up a bit before I try it again.

Honestly though, thorn doesn't even seem worth it in the end unbuffed. I only doing this for the hope that post-buff it turns into something actually worth it.

 

[Sullichin]

Managed to get a Void damage Supremacy on the final Queen's Wrath token I got yesterday, already had a Solar damage Supremacy... didn't manage to get the Arc damage version before the event ends but 2/3 isn't bad I suppose. Hopefully we'll see the event return in the future so I can complete the set.

Also managed to finish off the Nightfall right before the reset, Arc damage Rocket Launcher made short work of both the tank and the boss.

On another note, the Bad Juju bounty is such a pain in the butt, after finishing the Nightfall you shouldn't have to complete 25 strikes afterwards. If they don't want to change that then at least let me put the bounty in the vault so that it doesn't permanently take up a slot.

Holy shit that sounds awful. 25 strikes and a nightfall strike?

Another night of doing Tiger Strikes without getting anything useful. I am really sick of every strike. Did get an ascendant shard while farming the moon for helium though and was able to upgrade my sunbreakers some more.

 

[A_Gorilla]

Jeez, I may have to create my Alt Titan-class early just to try and get that kickass Iron Banner armor...

 

[Deaf Spacker]

So uh is this worth getting? I'm completely out of the loop when it comes to Destiny.

 

[Cynar]

guaranteed progress from PvP? cause that wouldn't unbalance everything.

Not everyone wants to raid

 

[Somnium986]

Ward of Dawn is so fun to use in PvP. They always think they can kill me inside the bubble. Also, whoever said that people ignore the heavy ammo were right. Out of 10 matches only one other person came to get the heavy ammo. Meanwhile everyone on the other team is blowing us up with launchers and LMGs.

 

[BudokaiMR2]

Goddamn I did not realize that the Iron Banner event had the level advantage turned on....

That is going to be painful. Considering how much trouble I am having with gearing up I may have to just skip out on this one for the most part...

I guess at the very least I should try to grind some more Spirit Bloom to at least level up the few Legendary pieces I already have....

 

[KeRaSh]

i'm betting the latter

i assume it'll work very similar to queen's bounties but much bigger time investment per bounties

That's what I'm guessing but I still have a little hope that they throw some freebies at us like they did with Queen's Wrath.
I'm not into PvP so I won't grind that shit to rank 3 just to get a cool looking Warlock body armor. I would buy that white / gold shader but I'm sure the rank 1 shader will be the gold / white one...

 

[Sullichin]

So uh is this worth getting? I'm completely out of the loop when it comes to Destiny.

+ Very good shooting mechanics
+ Gorgeous graphics, immaculate presentation and good performance
+ Awesome PVP
- Almost no mission variety and terrible storytelling
- Loot mechanics can be incredibly frustrating
- End game grind is tedious

If you want a good single player shooter, it sucks. If you want a great competitive shooter and an unhealthy addiction to a loot system that hates you, it's good.

 

[HalfBakedProphet]

So is the Iron Banner gear just normal legendary i.e. I can't get you to level 30 like raid gear?

 

[Dreamgazer]

Stayed up to help ShikiAoi finish the raid.
I will regret this at the business meeting tomorrow morning.

 

[scoobs]

The new iron banner gear looks dope, but I have zero interest in leveling up my armor again and collecting all those damn things again to upgrade... would take ages.

 

[Deaf Spacker]

+ Very good shooting mechanics
+ Gorgeous graphics, immaculate presentation and good performance
+ Awesome PVP
- Almost no mission variety and terrible storytelling
- Loot mechanics can be incredibly frustrating
- End game grind is tedious

If you want a good single player shooter, it sucks. If you want a great competitive shooter and an unhealthy addiction to a loot system that hates you, it's good.

Thanks! Is there much focus on communication and teamwork?

 

[Pimpwerx]

Done for the night. Warlock and Hunter are both lvl28, and my Tit is now lvl22, and about to hit 23. I will be raiding the first two characters this week, hoping to land some raid gear for both. My Titan I hope to get to 24 or 25, so he can really help me farm materials. I'll be generating 27 assmats a week just on the weekly strikes. PEACE.

 

[Futaba]

The new iron banner gear looks dope, but I have zero interest in leveling up my armor again and collecting all those damn things again to upgrade... would take ages.

imo, I'd have liked it better if they made it so when breaking down upgraded armour, it should at the very least give you half of your invested shards back.
So say you invested 30 shards in one piece of armor, breaking it down gives you 15.

 

[Sullichin]

The new iron banner gear looks dope, but I have zero interest in leveling up my armor again and collecting all those damn things again to upgrade... would take ages.

Yeah how does that work.. take your best armor to Iron Banner to stand a chance, win unupgraded armor that's worse? Farm for relic iron and shards again? If it were equivalent to raid armor maybe i'd do it.

 

[dacalo]

Thanks! Is there much focus on communication and teamwork?

The only mode I would say this really comes to play is the raid. It is an awesome experience. Other parts of the game, not so much.

 

[Pimpwerx]

Thanks! Is there much focus on communication and teamwork?

For raids, definitely. For strikes, not so much. You need teamwork for revives and stuff, but we don't spend much time strategizing for weekly strikes and stuff like we do the raid. PEACE.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

guaranteed progress from PvP? cause that wouldn't unbalance everything.

It's not as if this game is in any way balanced right now anyways.

If they remove the PvP parts of the Exotic bounties, they can put anything they want into PvP and I won't give a fuck.

 

[squidyj]

Not everyone wants to raid

the point was that it would make PvP a much faster and more reliable method for getting raid quality gear than raiding. You don't see the problem in that?

 

[Alexalder]

+ Very good shooting mechanics
+ Gorgeous graphics, immaculate presentation and good performance
+ Awesome PVP
- Almost no mission variety and terrible storytelling
- Loot mechanics can be incredibly frustrating
- End game grind is tedious

If you want a good single player shooter, it sucks. If you want a great competitive shooter and an unhealthy addiction to a loot system that hates you, it's good.

Awesome pvp? Awesome?

 

[Ovek]

Honestly though, thorn doesn't even seem worth it in the end unbuffed. I only doing this for the hope that post-buff it turns into something actually worth it.

I doubt it

 

[Deaf Spacker]

The only mode I would say this really comes to play is the raid. It is an awesome experience. Other parts of the game, not so much.

For raids, definitely. For strikes, not so much. You need teamwork for revives and stuff, but we don't spend much time strategizing for weekly strikes and stuff like we do the raid. PEACE.

Thank you, I may check it out then.

 

[Sullichin]

Awesome pvp? Awesome?

Subjective obviously, but yes I think so. It goes a long way in making me like the game. I think Control is the best part of the game.
* Have not played the raid

 

[Overdoziz]

So can you only get Iron Banner armor by buying it from the vendor or can you also get them as drops while playing it?

 

[Rainmaker]

Oh yes! More rep to grind. I would love the Titan Iron Banner armor but finding and getting ascendant shards is such a pain in the ass that I feel stuck with what I have here, halfway through level 27. So damn irritating.

Not to mention I still have to do the raid (if I ever have the opportunity) and then I'll have to upgrade the raid gear too (if I get lucky enough to get some). Finding materials is easy for me outside of ascendant shards. That's just tedious.

 

[Yu Narukami]

So can you only get Iron Banner armor by buying it from the vendor or can you also get them as drops while playing it?

In the Beta you could get them from drops aswell.

 

[Paertan]

Awesome pvp? Awesome?

Not the word I would use. Not my cup of tea when it comes to multiplayer. Everything is just Team Deathmatch with a twist it seems.
First time I was playing Control and we lost the lead when we had 2 out of 3 captured I was confused.

I do find it ok. But I rather play Killzone or Battlefield.

 

[IHaveIce]

So is the Iron Banner gear just normal legendary i.e. I can't get you to level 30 like raid gear?

Would be absolute dumb if it would also lock at 29

 

[Night Angel]

the point was that it would make PvP a much faster and more reliable method for getting raid quality gear than raiding. You don't see the problem in that?

Did I ever say it needed to be faster?

 

[Der Flatulator]

Raid Banner. PvP Iron Banner with no matchmaking (other than to join two teams). Drops 30 light legendaries. 6 players per fireteam required.

Make it happen.

 

[Nodnol]

Morning DGAF.

So the Iron Banner is upon us. Or will be shortly anyway.

It looks cool and all, but if Bungie thinks for one second that I'm going to grind my way for gear that will be inferior to what I currently have equiped....

Ascendant materials are hard enough to come by; why exactly would I bother upgrading a different set of Legendary that's not Raid gear?

 

[Overdoziz]

Just got a Legendary engram from the daily. Neat.

 

[panda-zebra]

After hours of jumping around, my findings are as such:

Area below the first chest in raid, the small leafy passage way, connects to the larger area accessed from over the top of the cliffs in the templar area, in both the light rocky zone and the vec mechinery sections, from top to bottom there are no useful passageways or hidden areas, there is however a small passageway close to the enterance of the vex machinery area (entering from under the first chest side), that leads to a little window overlooking part of the cave you ascend when heading towards the templar, despite being a fenced window a few knee slides can push you through it, though to no real benefit.

There are a number of golden gated pieces around the areas but none of them would seemingly bring you anywhere useful.

It seems, to me at least, that at some point or another, "The Trial of Kabr" was meant to be a puzzle based area (no spawn holes around the area), if you glitch through the main door in non-raid mode, the entrance to the cave system that takes you down to the templar is closed off, preventing you from going deeper than the first chest, so I feel as though their plan was to close off this area in Hard mode, and have people navigate through the jumpy-puzzle hot mess that is "The Trial of Kabr", which would then bring them out in the templar area to continue onwards.

It does seem strange that as the raid currently stands, the trial of kabr section serves as nothing but a chest spawn and an extremely short passageway to the templar. Another potential outcome, could have been that the area that this place is in, contained a small boss, or further vanishing steps which would eventually give you access to the later jumping area.

All in all the area that connects the templar boss arena and the trial of kabr load zone has nothing of notable value at current, it may be used at a later date, it may remain unused and abandoned, was still fun exploring it.

Excellent post. I sorely wish I had time to explore the raid environments but the teams I've played with are, understandably, all about the next boss and the next chest. That's not how I play the game outside the vault, I want to leave no stone unturned, but good people such as yourself take the time to do exactly this in there.

 

[Cob32]

Raid Banner. PvP Iron Banner with no matchmaking. Drops 30 light legendaries. 6 players per fireteam required.

Make it happen.

Made me giggle. Raiders would probably be happy to have 30 light legendaries in iron banner if these were the requirements.

 

[Sullichin]

Not the word I would use. Not my cup of tea when it comes to multiplayer. Everything is just Team Deathmatch with a twist it seems.
First time I was playing Control and we lost the lead when we had 2 out of 3 captured I was confused.

I do find it ok. But I rather play Killzone or Battlefield.

Capturing zones is important, as is getting kills. You get a point multiplier bonus on your kills based on how many zones your team has. You also get more points if you travel as a team and capture zones together, etc. It's not like King of the Hill or something where you get points over time just for having the spot. I really like the scoring system and it can lead to really close games and comebacks. The zones let you know where the action is going on in the map so I'm not wandering around aimlessly like I sometimes feel in clash. It feels like all of the maps were designed around Control. I do wish there were more game modes and stuff like capture the flag and oddball. The vehicle-heavy deathmatch playlist they have every once in a while is the worst.