Victory Red
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Suros Regime
I don't even know at this point. Ghallahorn I guess? Getting a little burnt out on Destiny now. Which is good, I have work to do.
lol okay, whatever you say buddy. My eyes don't lie. Enjoy your time on the ignore list.
Yeah it's bugged. The first three upgrades say the exact same thing, none of which do anything. And I've yet to see the explosion headshot thing work. Works every time on my praedyth and very easy to notice.
Fix the ice breaker pls.
Edit: actually it is combust, not explode. Maybe I have seen that work sometimes.
ComputerMKII
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I'm hoping for the Suros Regime. I didn't buy it that one time he had it on sale.
Anyone see on Bungie the post where someone changed the time on his Xbox for this week and next, and showed pictures of what Xur is selling? I'm not sure if it's legit or not, but damn, if it is how could this even be possible? What would changing your xbox time have to do with anything?
For some guns, I assure you that you can. That reload speed for hand cannons may be a negligible asset when using most, but makes an enormous difference when considering Thorn's default. It's a massive weakness that can be deflected.
There's also the matter of how you want to use it- you wouldn't play even close to the same way with Thorn as you would with TLW or any other hand cannon for that matter.
With Mark of the Devourer:
2 headshots or 3 body shots, and disengage- unless the target gets health regen somehow from a skill or gear mod, that's a guaranteed kill from the DoT. This means that the magazine on Thorn is best looked at as a potential 3 kills before a reload if you're accurate. You aren't going to run in and pop shots off like candy as you would with TLW. You're going to plant accurate shots on target until you know they're as good as dead and then move on... never, ever reload early unless you're positive you're in the clear.
thorn played like TLW and TLW wins a hundred times over. but you can't play TLW like you can play Thorn at all.
There are a number of class-specific builds that could maximize it: Chain of Woe on Gunslinger is the simplest choice, any headshots that kill give you license to reload at a more normal speed. War Machine on defender could be incredibly effective well- spec to be able to keep force barrier up as much as possible. And I'm still not sure if Surge on Voidwalker increases reload speed or not. But of course a reload boost can be handled by gear too. The fourth build down here focuses on essentially being the most annoying thing ever by going for the full-DoT Sunsinger approach.
Last night in the crucible I also had this idea for one (didn't think out the full build, but a playstyle): run Thorn/shotgun, and use an initial shot from range on someone to "paint" them. The floating 7s from the DoT will keep their exact location revealed to you for 5 seconds. Edge around, swap, and slide in to finish them with one shotgun shot, which wouldn't have to be perfect (they'll have no shield). Repeat until one or the other needs reloading (at which point hopefully 5 other people are dead
). A Titan running with Blessing of Light on their ward might be really well suited for this. welcome to nirvana
agreed.
there just needs to be an in-game party board where you can leave a message, specify the group's reason for forming, and set expectations for those that join. like Monster Hunter. exactly like what destinylfg.net provides but in-game.
Subtervotion
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All three classes can make the jumping puzzle with only jumping on two platforms, then going directly to the wall. Titan and warlock are similar, only difference is the titans jetpack runs out. Luckily you can always use a small boost with the titan right before you hit ground. Hunter is also easy. Double jump to get enough horizontal distance, then blade dance right before landing. Bonus: it looks bad ass too. Also triple jump is an option.
Souldestroyer Reborn
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I'd like an exotic helmet for my lock
BUT i need more coins / motes., only have 16 coins and 23 motes :I
Robdraggoo
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for me gjallahorn
for my hunter (Wifes really) a helmet becuase they are to darn expensive to buy
Ah, guess I'll try that.
PrivateWHudson
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Some gauntlets to get my Hunter to 30. After that, I'll see what my alt Titan or unborn Warlock can use.
Honestly, there's no need to ever kill him on hard the legit way if you are cheesing him. If you already got the raid helmet, vex, or whatever it is you want from him, those folks probably won't set foot into hard mode Atheon fight ever again.
Do you get more xp if you do it in higher difficulty levels?
Also do i have to be using the weapon to get xp or i just need to have it equiped?
I know bounties xp goes to everything that's equiped. But when i'm actually shooting stuff to me it seems like i only get upgrades on the weapon i'm using at the moment.
Der Flatulator
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I'm faced with a dilemma. I just got another exotic bounty, and it's Thorn, Invective or Bad Juju. I already have Invective and Juju, but I'm not sure if thorn is worth the effort. (a) it's a difficult bounty and (b) the gun is underpowered.
Help me decide, GAF.
Help me decide, GAF.
This. And maybe insurmountable skullfort titan helm because it just looks cool.
Pantsuit Apologist
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Ok good, just need damn leg armor.
You can try this one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0tax4r2PDU
But normal jump is possible also. Don't know where to jump, but last night I did it with two jumps and fellow titan with one. Didn't go back to learn how. I assume its just a leap of faith.
Just got the Heart of Praxic Fire from the Nightfall...
(don't have a pic, just posted this one so peeps can see what it looks like)
Such an amazing looking piece of armor.
Kills two birds with one stone, I get to ditch my ugly exotic helm and my Ugly chest piece
Praise the Sun!
(don't have a pic, just posted this one so peeps can see what it looks like)
Such an amazing looking piece of armor.
Kills two birds with one stone, I get to ditch my ugly exotic helm and my Ugly chest piece
Praise the Sun!
Definity
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Exactly what I was thinking. Hopefully they don't take the easy way out and use a generic enrage timer that just kills you on the spot. Also would hate to see "turn back or die messages" everywhere at the encounters. Time will tell though and I know the guys that design the raids at bungle are all over this by now.
So last night on VoG hard we cheesed the templar oracles with only one guy on the ground, just camping in the spirit bloom cave. This is probably well known but in case not, I was able to shoot the very far back-right oracle from spawn by jumping down onto a lower right ledge. Everyone else had full visibility of the other oracles so the guy on the ground just had to AFK and everyone at spawn took them out. Easiest oracle phase ever.
Ardenyal
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Does the level of the mission matter? I know heroic spawns more enemies but do lvl 12 enemies give same xp as 20?
Souldestroyer Reborn
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I done it, wasn't too difficult tbh although i'd say it's the hardest of the 3 to complete and quite possibly the hardest exotic bounty of them all.
It's getting buffed in the future too soooo.....
death4romabove22
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Just got the Heart of Praxic Fire from the Nightfall...
(don't have a pic, just posted this one so peeps can see what it looks like)
Such an amazing looking piece of armor.
Kills two birds with one stone, I get to ditch my ugly exotic helm and my Ugly chest piece
Praise the Sun!
No guardian praise the void !!
Just got the Heart of Praxic Fire from the Nightfall...
(don't have a pic, just posted this one so peeps can see what it looks like)
Such an amazing looking piece of armor.
Kills two birds with one stone, I get to ditch my ugly exotic helm and my Ugly chest piece
Praise the Sun!
Warlock robes are just amazing. I have voidfang at the moment, tiding me over til I get Praxic, but even this one looks amazing. Gonna be a hard choice between the two that's for sure.
LollipoPReapeR
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We did a similar thing except the relic guy took care of the oracles at the far back. Still managed to do it in few wipes though
Shabadoo69
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I did the daily nightfall last night and was hoping for an exotic but all I got was 5 strange coins. I was a little pissed to say the least. I guess I need a few more for Xur this weekend so hopefully he has something good. I also go to level 3 Vanguard last night and got, a mote of light, an ascendant shard, and a legendary pulse rifle bad seed down. So overall it was a good night.
Doomshroom
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Dear Xur i want Heart of Praxic Fire and Hawkmoon (or something i dont know)
Der Flatulator
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How did you manage to get the helmet 3 times? Dayum
Same xp
Really? If it that's the case, I might buy it. Though, everything I like becomes nerfed eventually.
I am very curious what they do with it. Raids are the best part of the game, so I am trusting them to do it right.
EL CUCO
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Just got the Heart of Praxic Fire from the Nightfall...
(don't have a pic, just posted this one so peeps can see what it looks like)
Such an amazing looking piece of armor.
Kills two birds with one stone, I get to ditch my ugly exotic helm and my Ugly chest piece
Praise the Sun!
You found a pic of Heart of Praxic Fire on a Voidwalker...a rookie Warlock mistake. Lol
Diablohead
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i've been killed by an ice breaker and my body has turned into fire, which is what I think it does.
Useless upgrade is useless! woo
This is wrong, with the exception of one of the two being one of Hawkmoon's ace shots or another HC mod that does random bonus damage. 4 shots anywhere is a kill, or 1 headshot and two body shots.Cømet;134581996 said:
Not even two headshots kill a fully-shielded target with full Toughness. Two headshots still require a quick tap somewhere else (or Thorn's DoT) to finish the job.
Four shots is exactly right and while it may well have been lag, it's also not as easy-as-operational-pie weapon like something like the SUROS Regime is.
Well... okay, but you'll actually be at a disadvantageCømet;134584045 said:
heh, really hope that doesn't happen, i'm loving it. just needs more modes and maps, and our list of guns that need buffsCømet;134582935 said:
Logical fallacy. First, attack stats are irrelevant in the Crucible, so plenty of Rare guns are completely viable if you like them (I suggest the Galahad-E to starving AR fans
myself). Second, the fact that your entire team got demolished by an HC doesn't illustrate anything other than the fact that your entire team got demolished by someone who happens to use HCs. Why you ascribe this blindly to the weapon class is beyond me? Have you spent significant time playing with one? Let me put it this way: I've come first on servers using ARs, I've come first on servers using Fusion Rifles, and I've come first on servers using Hand Cannons. guess which one took the most effort and skill o_o
figadapaura
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Don't you already have 6 people? I'm trying level my Warlock atm.
The reload speed isn't neligable even for fast reloading types like TLW.
I would run it every time I used a HC anyway, I think most people would too.
Of course.
TLW has the same 3 headshot kill as all HCs, but the faster rate of fire makes them come quicker at the trade off of range. Then the hipfire, of course.
TLW can do precision and fullauto body thumping.
Thorn can only do precision shots, but it can leave the target to die instead of hitting the final shot.
TLW seems slightly more versatile to me.
This is a fairly obvious way to use Thorn.
I will try it, but all reports from people I know who have both maxed suggest its fun but not as effective as TLW.
Both have different playstyles that maxmise their efficiency, certainly.
See, the only proper build here is the Sunsinger one (the rest are just using obvious reload buffs), and even then I'd think TLW would add more overall effectiveness to the build. Using Thorn would be more in sync and more fun maybe, but better?
You'd have to do some testing, but I don't really see Thorn edging it at all, not in its current state and going by what I've read/seen on videos etc...
Of course, I need to try it for myself. Will upgrade next and give it a go.
Last night in the crucible I also had this idea for one (didn't think out the full build, but a playstyle): run Thorn/shotgun, and use an initial shot from range on someone to "paint" them. The floating 7s from the DoT will keep their exact location revealed to you for 5 seconds. Edge around, swap, and slide in to finish them with one shotgun shot, which wouldn't have to be perfect (they'll have no shield). Repeat until one or the other needs reloading (at which point hopefully 5 other people are dead
This is an interesting way to use the gun for sure.
Cømet;134581996 said:
So now people are complaining about HCs?
Unlike AR's and shotguns, you have to be precise and actually aim with a HC. If you miss a shot or two, you can easily be taken down. HCs are one of the few weapons that are balanced correctly. Nothing broken about them.
You feel that way about FRs?
Diablohead
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Fusion Rifles should spray more from the hip, right now they seem to be more accurate then hard aiming them.
MG's can beast in PvP but you need the right type, the super slow firing ones are the bad ones, the super fast shooting ones also suck and you want one with really steady aim, those become really strong.
I believe two headshots with luck in the chamber adding 33% to one of the bullets can do it, especially if your build is not set to armour for your class.
IMO ignore anything the gun stats say and test out guns personally, two handcannons with the same impact can be quite different and it's annoying.
MG's can beast in PvP but you need the right type, the super slow firing ones are the bad ones, the super fast shooting ones also suck and you want one with really steady aim, those become really strong.
I believe two headshots with luck in the chamber adding 33% to one of the bullets can do it, especially if your build is not set to armour for your class.
IMO ignore anything the gun stats say and test out guns personally, two handcannons with the same impact can be quite different and it's annoying.
Lag was all over the place for me last night. I pumped 10 rounds from a heavy machine gun into a guy, he killed me, walked a few steps, and then died.Cømet;134582935 said:
So that was cool
.We did something similar, except we used a Sunbro to revive so he could stay up with us and assist in the shooting. No lazy people in the spirit bloom room!
ComputerMKII
Banned
We had one free spot when I sent my message but we've beaten Atheon now, so nevermind.
Not a fusion rifle fan, but it takes a bit more skill to know how to handle the charge rate. Still think that FRs need to be tweaked slightly. Range needs to be nerfed.
I just don't think there's anything wrong with HCs.
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