That Reddit guy who is testing the game? lol
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Destiny |OT8| Whine and Cheese
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That Reddit guy who is testing the game? lol
That's not why people are cheesing him though. It's not because they couldn't do it otherwise (he's pretty easy), it's because a person can do it by himself, in a few minutes, without doing any other part of the raid and without needing to rely on 5 other people to not totally suck.
Ruthless_Barbarian
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If you're lvl24 or higher, always run Vanguard Tiger for chance of legendary/exotic rewards.
everyday math
Banned
The gear is only rare.
True.
I find the best part of the raid is going through it with your friends. I would hate to do it alone.
Well, not anymore!
Mythoclast, RIP in peace.
/shovels more dirt onto the grave to make sure it stays dead (for PvP)
ethomaz
Banned
I checked on Bungie.net... it is the default sub-class (I don't know you can use the second one on the alt char without reach lvl15)... Striker.Sounds like you're in Striker. Defender has the sticky grenade. Titans aren't like Hunters with awesome options all in one tree.
And yes, it was bizarre. It feels like Titan has the worst melee despite being the alleged up close and personal bruiser type.
I just need to get used to the melee... I'm missing most of the time the first hit (the stronger)... Warlock made me lazy to close before use melee
bargeparty
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It's dmg and accuracy nerf make it useless against minotaurs and praetaurions(sp?)
Goodacre0081
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I realize that and the PS armors are level16. so any strike that results in lv20 gear is useless.
You might as well finish it for the energy shards if it turns out you don't like it. It used to be good in PvP but I'm not sure now since the range nerf you're probably better off meleeing people.
I checked on Bungie.net... it is the default sub-class (I don't know you can use the second one on the alt char without reach lvl15)... Striker.
I just need to get used to the melee... I'm missing most of the time the first hit (the stronger)... Warlock made me lazy to close before use melee
Warlock melee is incredible compared to Striker.
Once you get used to it, the Titan will lunge and punch when it's lined up / in range, especially if you're sprinting....but yeah, Warlock range is better.
Also, our overshield comes from melee kills. Warlocks come from just hitting someone
.On the bright side, if you're in Striker and have Storm Fist up, if you panic and hipfire / spray bullets as someone is near you and hit one or two times, the Storm Fist will generally one hit kill if charged. Don't need to shotgun / melee, virtually any hit will allow the follow up to kill.
If Storm Fist is charged.
everyday math
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It's only good for taking the shields down. That's how it's always been. Usually use rockets on them or fusion rifles.
I like the large mag and high rate of fire. Stability upgrade helps a lot. Wish it had more impact tho.
BulletSmoke
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any raid normal spots open tonight? 28 titan
psn: bulletsmoke
psn: bulletsmoke
DrDrizzay101
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Has nothing to do with "hardcore," I don't care about that. It's just boring, and I'm surprised it's taken so long to patch it out. I certainly agree with you that it's unnecessary, there just seems to be a psychological hang up when people know there's an "easy way" to do something (e.g. loot cave).
I can do Hard Raid without cheese with you want a help
Haha yeah I'm up for it if we can find a group, I want to do a fresh run though.
ethomaz
Banned
I don't know yet because my Titan didn't have shield with melee yet... on Sunsinger I can choose between flame shield (just need hit... no kill) or burn damage over time (and a third that I don't remember).
In normal Crucible the full changed melee of Sunsinger is one hit kill most of time from a mid to close range... and even on Iron Banner it will burn after few seconds.... a lot of time I died doing melee to see the opponent health go zero before respawn.
I will get used to Titan... I'm just at lvl 8 yet.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
If I need 4 Light to reach the next level, how many armor upgrades do I need?
Duebrithil
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My PS4 sometimes triple-beeps when it's been turned off for a while, and in occasions continually ejects when on. Unplugging during a minute or two seems solve the problem for a few days, but I hope I don't have to screw around inside the console or send it in for repairs this soon (and miss quite some days of Destiny) :C
Kor of Memory
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We did this last night:
3 people go into Red gate, get Gatekeeper to 10%.
Fall Back
3 people into Green gate, kill Gatekeeper.
Bring Relic out
2 people go into Red gate, kill Gatekeeper.
Bring Relic out
This way prevents you from having to worry about the sacrifices for very long. It's also no where near as complicated as it sounds, or is explained. My first raid, someone suggested this, and it sounded like a complicated mess. Last night we did this and it was super easy.
Ruthless_Barbarian
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On normal. yes. We've done it in 2 portal runs. Time taken was 3 minutes.
Cheese time = 2 minutes approx.
The issue is lag and glitches. You do it the normal way and sometimes the wrong players get teleported, players get stuck in portals, or the relic drops on its own.
Don't even get me started on the glitchy gameplay in the gatekeepers phase. These are things bungie needs to fix instead of cheesing and loot caves.
And fuck hard Atheon for giving shards, ships and shaders over and over again. There must be a dedicated loot drop with chance for shards and cosmetic shit.
Fuck yes, thank you.
No, just used it yesterday. It is a bit more annoying to use at mid-range, but it is definitely fine against these enemies.
I thought it was just precision damage modifier reduction on ARs from 1.5 to 1.25 and a little bit more recoil. Both mean nothing on minotaurs and praetorian.
I don't think its a hang up, majority of groups wouldn't be abLe to do the whole raid on hard without cheese.
Here's my question...once you get that gear from cheesing, what's the point in playing? Are you going for a Mytho to run Tiger strikes? Just seems pointless to me if you don't want to actually complete the hard content without cheesing it.
Ruthless_Barbarian
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We prefer doing it one portal at a time, it's much faster and less chances of screwing up in the portals due to glitching and cleansing. Especially on hard, managing both portals at once is tough.
RNGesus be praised! Thanks
Probably the best way as it doesn't rely on specific weapons / gear.
When we did it on hard, we had a Gjallahorn or two and that ripped the Gatekeepers apart. So we'd send 3 into one, unload on the Gatekeeper. One would leave early to help outside / get out before the Gatekeeper died to avoid the debuff. Gatekeeper died, relic obtained, the two guys then exited and went to the next gate and killed the Gatekeeper while 4 of us defended on the outside.
Gjallahorn is what really felt like what made it feel so easy, though. Again, the posted method above is probably better for most squads.
figadapaura
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I've nearly got my Voidwalker maxed, but I still think Hunter is more fun to play.
That's better. Can you fix destiny now?
DrDrizzay101
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Yeah I definitely agree with what you are saying. I've played with some people who were Lv 25+ but had basically only done the loot cave and were absolutely terrible at the game. Oh well, to each their own.
Dhruv_hanom
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I believe we wiped once due to lag during that run. Clearing Atheon in 2 runs was exhilarating.
I didn't even know you could do this. Waow.
Smartass Answer = The story never ends, so why make a trophy for it? Roflcopter etc.
.plantedunicorn
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I don't know how this happened but I just got matched into a control game where it was 6 vs 2 from the start. Took another minute or so to find the other 4 people for my team.
How does that happen?
How does that happen?
MagicWithEarvin
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Are the servers down? Won't let me log in.
bargeparty
Member
Yeah so did i and it wasn't worth equipping over my shadow price.
could you elaborate on this? o_o
Kor of Memory
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No, not at the same time. 3 people are outside defending the appropriate sync plates at all times.
3 people go into first gate, and reduces the gatekeepers health to 10%. Then all 3 leave.
All 6 people shift to the other side, with 3 defenders still and 3 going into the portal. The 3 in the portal now kill the second gatekeeper and pull the relic out of the 2nd portal. The 3 leave the portal.
5 people shift back to the first portal, 3 defenders, 2 going into the portal. The current Relic holder just does whatever, mostly, staying safe.
The 2 people who are now in the first portal should be able to take the Gatekeeper down in seconds. They grab the second Relic and run out.
This lets you avoid the minotaurs trying to sacrifice themselves. As I understand it, it takes 4 minotaurs to sacrifice causing a wipe, so you can ignore the first 1 or two of them.
When both relics are out, everyone falls to the center and kills the big minotaurs that start coming through the portal.
A lot of wasted effort on hard. We have 2 people go in to left portal first and go to the back right of the room and icebreak the gatekeeper until hes nearly dead then someome speedily runs along the right side while the one that stayed kills the keeper and runs out. First dude grabs the shield and exits. Same 2 go into right venusy portal and use shield super and rockets to kill everything in 10 seconds and get the second shield in less time than opening 3 different portals
No, his team opens Green. They then exit Green with Gatekeeper at low life and then go open Red. Then they go back and finish off Green once Red is done. It makes it so the central conflux doesn't have to deal with the minotaurs from Atheon's spawn point for long / if at all, depending on your speed.
Once the gatekeeper dies, that's when the debuff kicks in that requires the cleanse from the Relic, yes. So you can go in, fire off a few rockets, drop a bubble, and jump out before the Gatekeeper dies and never have to be cleansed.
A pre-made of 4 dudes could've left or been hit by Bee / Zebra bugs.
I was in a Crucible match where all of a sudden all 11 guys got kicked, leaving me alone. Free top score medal I guess.
Ruthless_Barbarian
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Do left (Mars/red) portal first since it has Praetorians. Just hang back and snipe / use rockets. Call when you are coming out so that the outside team can move to the other vex plate.
The first relic carrier and one more player then go into the right (Venus/green) portal. Use the relic super and rockets to quickly deal with the gatekeeper, other player grabs the relic and both exit as quickly as you can. Call when you are coming out so everyone can move to the middle and protect the conflux.
Relic guys bash the Praetorians while rest of the team assist with adds. The final part is time based so even if one player makes it, you'll beat it and get the loot + checkpoint.
On hard today, our team died at the very end but as soon as we got to the mission score screen, everyone received loot
Yep, this is my preferred method.
Phaethon0017
Member
Thanks for the info. The Pocket Infinity is still great imo. 8 rounds in PvP was a bit of a hassle anyway so I stopped using it before the patch. One round can kill at decent range, 3+ in 2 secs can kill or clear out a room.
MrS
Banned
Same here in UK, PSN also appears to be playing up as I can't see who's online.
Ruthless_Barbarian
Member
Yeah, first try the relic dropped on its own.
Destroying Atheon in 2 portal runs was awesome. Whole raid done in under 1 hour.
I think the next iron banner will be far more hardcore.
figadapaura
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Kor of Memory
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Sure this can work, but what you suggested above would work better for people more familiar with all the encounters.
What I suggested is something I would use more for people who've never done the raid before. It's more of a slow and steady, take your time approach. Plus, it prevents having to deter someone from having to worry about job reassignment halfway through.
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