Twilight Gap
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A roll that can only travel laterally which switches the camera to third person is a much more balanced maneuver than blink.
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Destiny The Taken King starring Bungie with special guest appearance by Game Informer
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A roll that can only travel laterally which switches the camera to third person is a much more balanced maneuver than blink.
Also: Defending confluxes from Vex sacrifices is a public event, and is used in two phases of the Vault of Glass (the first one, and at Gatekeeper). And the idea of the time/space portals is used in the campaign (final mission). TBH I think that's about the right balance as the raid needs to incorporate new mechanics of its own.
Except for that follow up melee it looks a lot harder to reliably aim at an enemy after that animation and with the angle you end up looking at. And since that class doesn't have QuickDraw, it won't be as offensively broken as Blink is.
It looks amazing defensively though.
Ok guys I have a few questions:
I haven't played Destiny since October last year. I was like level 16 or so. My main beef was that the game wanted me to grind grind grind to make progress and upgrading my equipment after level 20 sounded like I would need to run around collecting spin metal and green orbs and stuff. That did not sound fun at all so I dropped out. I should also note that I never liked the Crucible stuff that much.
I DID enjoy the gunplay. A lot! Big open areas invited sniping like Halo used to have years ago. You could clear out a ton of enemies from really far away and I really liked that! But, the number of missions seemed pretty low and I got turned off by grinding and a little bit how pretentious it kind of felt.
So if I wanted to get back into Destiny, would my problems from before be addressed? Would there still be the need to go collect all that shit on the planets? Would I still need to play Crucible because XP comes so much faster that way? Or would it be enough to simply play missions and enjoy a solid feeling of progress that way?
Also, what's the best way to buy the game now? I sold my disc version so I would need the entire package again.
Thanks in advance!
I haven't played Destiny since October last year. I was like level 16 or so. My main beef was that the game wanted me to grind grind grind to make progress and upgrading my equipment after level 20 sounded like I would need to run around collecting spin metal and green orbs and stuff. That did not sound fun at all so I dropped out. I should also note that I never liked the Crucible stuff that much.
I DID enjoy the gunplay. A lot! Big open areas invited sniping like Halo used to have years ago. You could clear out a ton of enemies from really far away and I really liked that! But, the number of missions seemed pretty low and I got turned off by grinding and a little bit how pretentious it kind of felt.
So if I wanted to get back into Destiny, would my problems from before be addressed? Would there still be the need to go collect all that shit on the planets? Would I still need to play Crucible because XP comes so much faster that way? Or would it be enough to simply play missions and enjoy a solid feeling of progress that way?
Also, what's the best way to buy the game now? I sold my disc version so I would need the entire package again.
Thanks in advance!
Kor of Memory
Member
Nah. Honestly, it looks a lot slower than I expected, and that makes me feel good about it. Plus, since it pulls the player out into 3rd person, it'll have some natural drawbacks to it.
Something I am sort of dissapointed about here is the lack of world usage in these new PvP maps. Going down the list we hae
- Earth
- Earth
- Mars
- Earth
- Reef
- Saturn
- Earth
- Mercury
Literally half the maps on Earth. Not 1 new map on the Moon or Venus.
The total tally puts this at:
9 maps on Earth
7 maps on Mars/Phobos
3 maps on Luna
3 maps on Venus
2 maps on Mercury
1 map on the Reef
1 map near Saturn
I mean, I get that the Reef and Saturn are newer locations and would naturally have fewer PvP maps, but why is Earth and Mars hogging all the glory? That's a pretty big gap there.
1. Level is no longer tied to fear. You'll level up by gaining XP. This still is a little grindy, as the best way to do it is by completing rather repetitive bounties.
2. New weapons and armor have waaaaay fewer upgrade nodes. Moreover, each of these requires fewer materials. Also, these materials are no longer locked behind planetary farming - you can just buy them with marks.
3. Best way to buy would be the Legendary edition. US$60 for base Destiny + TDB + HoW + Taken King.
Even the base campaign is getting slightly re worked. And you'll get a character boost to take one character to the level required for Taken King activities. It's a good moment to get back in.
Nice! That all sounds pretty appealing. We just got a dog so my hopes for an Xbone and Halo 5 are out for this year. I'm hoping I can scratch that itch by revisiting Destiny
Most of these systems have undergone big changes, and in general you'll find the grind greatly reduced. As an example:
Planetary mats have new sources. They drop for doing daily Heroic story missions and patrol bounties, among other places. If you are short and don't have them, you can buy 20 of any type for 10 Vanguard marks. They also reduced the number needed per weapon/armor node from 16 to 5. Most folks are drowning mats now (something likely to be re-balanced with TTK.)
There's still some grinding in the sense that progression through factions and leveling gear is made running content through many times (play Crucible, strikes, etc.) but the repetitiveness is being addressed in several ways. The first is just volume of content: Destiny shipped with 6 strikes (on PSN). With TTK and the other two DLC's in the mix, it has 13 (12 on Xbox), plus three variations of prior strikes. They're also working to make the new stuff hold up better to replays. For instance the new strikes have alternating branches, encounters and dialogue that are randomly chosen as you go, so they are less repetitive. They also feature some mechanics (what Bungie calls "raid-lite") so there is more strategy to the bosses than just dealing damage.
This is the general approach applied across all of TTK, from what we know so far.
BRocknRolla
Member
Did I misread it somewhere, or if you buy the digital collector's version do you get access to the existing DLC now? I can't seem to find that.
Kor of Memory
Member
We've seen screenshots of new Trials gear here and there, but nothing direct yet.
I also believe we heard somewhere that when TTK launches Iron Banner and Trials will go on a month-ish hiatus while everyone gets settled.
Crimson_Gold
Member
You do get access to the existing dlc now if you preorder now
That totally makes sense since it is considered endgame pvp. I'm just really happy to hear that it will stay relevant.
BRocknRolla
Member
Thanks!
Just that it's going away for a bit on launch, as well as IB.
You expected to rent an expansion pack for what's essentially an MMO? Really?
Ah, good call on those; not sure how I skipped em.
On second thought, I guess that leaves only the disappearing platforms and relic that were new, and that's probably OK. Maybe a relic PE would have been a good add.
The Last Wizard
Member
I feel dirty for wanting the buy this after selling the original cause of the letdown it was:/
Third Strike
Member
I already own a retail copy of Destiny, but none of the DLC. Is the Legendary Edition the best "solution" for me? Sorry if this has been brought up already in the topic.
Svartafaran
Member
Perfect time to jump in again
Kor of Memory
Member
Basically.
You can then trade in your old copy and maybe get a couple of bucks for it.
Or give it to a friend as an elaborate demo so they can try it out.
Mathematically, yes.
Buy the Amazon physical copy of TTK LE and trade in your vanilla Destiny disc. This should get you TTK and the 2 previous expansions for about $40 OOP, plus tax & shipping, assuming you're in the US.
Edit: Beaten by Kor. =\
LifEndz
Member
Same here. This should be in the OP.
Nothing confirmed. There's an icon for a weapon that looks strangely like a sword but we haven't had a look at that yet.
Svartafaran
Member
I will be watching these
Kor of Memory
Member
Not SUROS. A competitor of theirs called Omolon.
It all sounds really overwhelming for someone like me that only played the damn Alpha.
Can this be enjoyable if Im most of the time a lone wolf? Because it will be difficult for me to buy PS+ to play MP in the coming couple of months.
As in I will get my moneys worth by pure single player experience? I do plan on play MP and raids and all that but sometime later and not exclusively.
Can this be enjoyable if Im most of the time a lone wolf? Because it will be difficult for me to buy PS+ to play MP in the coming couple of months.
As in I will get my moneys worth by pure single player experience? I do plan on play MP and raids and all that but sometime later and not exclusively.
Probably not, nope.
NullPointer
Member
Nope.
The stars of the show: strikes, raids, pvp and arena aren't available without PS+/XBL (though you don't need PS+ on the PS3), so you'd be left with campaign missions (the weakest part of the game) and roaming the open world.
As many people that play Destiny will tell you, If your only doing SP and Solo content it's probably not worth it. I used to think the PvP was great but I just started playing again today and it's a laggy mess.
Although if you never played the game before, right now the solo content will be worth $60 but you will be missing out on Raids, Strikes, Public Events, the Crucible, PoE if you don't have Ps+. If you played the alpha, that's basically the whole game spread over planets. If you like just that part then it is definitely worth it.
And in HoW, they added a story mission that included disappearing platforms (not nearly as precise and vertical as what's in VoG, though), as well as a story mission that has you cracking into the first bit of VoG to introduce Oracles.
At this point the only brand new mechanic is the relic and the idea of being marked/cleansing. It would be interesting if a story mission essentially went full-bore MMO and had you play a support/healer role with AI partners while running relic. I played a fair bit of Conjurer/White Mage in FFXIV and several of the job story missions had you actually playing your class with AI buddies in a small-scale battle.
On the other hand, I'm a big proponent of having the raid specifically have brand-new mechanics - otherwise it's all just a greatest hits compilation. I had a VoG run today where I actually ran relic during Templar because my group was cool with it and no one else wanted it - and it was awesome because it was new and unexpected.
Hey GAF, im a day one player. Bought vanilla destiny on disc, and downloaded the dlcs. Now, it looks like im planning to get a second ps4 for in another room. Since i dont feel much for dragging a disc around the house, im planning to go all digital. I guess my best option is the digital legendary TTK? I do wonder if i will have to download everything again, not that that is much of an issue.
I don't know how multiple ps4s work, but I assume you can have everything running at the same time? Then yep, you should be just fine with the $40 TTK download. You don't need the $80 digital collector's edition since you already own the DLC.
You'll have to download it all again, since it works together with TTK.
Edit: Crap, saw you had bought original on disc. Then yes, like said below: I'd find a dirt-cheap used disc of original vanilla Destiny since all of your DLC will cross over. Hell, you might be able to work out a deal here where you get the disc for $10 from someone buying the physical TTK just for the DLC.
HiredN00bs
Member
You could just get a second disc after TTK comes out. They'll be super cheap.
Kamina
Golden Boy
As far as i know you can set up another PS4 as secomdary console and share your primary bought DLC with it. So you'd just need the base game, no DLC's.
Kamina
Golden Boy
TK is a month away, Check the revoews when ot is out and jump in if you like what you see.
Yeah, but the thing is that i dont want to have to move the disc around. Im not sure if the secondary ps4 will need the disc, my guess is that it will (hence my 'buying' the digital version)
Kor of Memory
Member
Updated the OP with the Twitch Schedule.
wild wild rice
Member
OK, read the OP (thanks Kor!) and it all sounds quite nice, probably gonna hop back in.
I'm glad to hear Bungie is attempting to address the lack of variety in scenarios, but is this strictly limited to strikes? And are strikes those things you need to be in a squad or whatever in order to play? Will variety be added to the missions outside the strikes?
And how were the expansions?
I'm not a PvP or clan/squad player in the slightest, so I'm coming from a solo/play with random rangers co op point of view.
I'm glad to hear Bungie is attempting to address the lack of variety in scenarios, but is this strictly limited to strikes? And are strikes those things you need to be in a squad or whatever in order to play? Will variety be added to the missions outside the strikes?
And how were the expansions?
I'm not a PvP or clan/squad player in the slightest, so I'm coming from a solo/play with random rangers co op point of view.
Kor of Memory
Member
We're not 100% clear on if the improvements are strike specific or not. We don't know if variety will be added to missions.
The expansions were very unique.
Dark Below was not great at the time. It's "story" is dreadfully short. The PvP maps weren't great. The raid was very interesting, but then people found out how to solo the entire thing.
House of Wolves was much much better. The first time Destiny felt like it has a solid story and world building. PvP maps were good/better. The only downside was the lack of a raid. An arena was put in place of a raid, which is a decent substitution. The arena is fun to play, but the rewards for it are generally terrible in comparison to everything else in the game. The Arena has a lower level matchmaking component to it, so you cant actually see some of that content as a "solo" player.
wild wild rice
Member
This excites me.
Kor of Memory
Member
That was pretty much nothing, unfortunately.
Just recaps on: There is a story, Light system went all mulligan, and the grind nothing it once was.