It's not an excuse but it should shape one's expectations, I'd hope.
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Deus Ex: Mankind Divided I Review Thread I I asked for this
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It's not an excuse but it should shape one's expectations, I'd hope.
Regginator
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Oh, phew. I seem to have read some reports that Ultra kinda botches the frame-rate, something with shadows and/or AA, maybe a patch could fix that. But as long as I can run it at High presets with around 40/45fps and some individual settings up or down, I'm satisfied.
In the UK it's routinely had a good £10-20 off on CDkeys.com. I got this for £22.99 I think.
Regginator
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Or wait a few more days until more reliable and expansive benchmarks are available and then make an informed decision. We don't even know if the console versions are flawless.
The first Human Revolution is actually a prequel to the hallowed original, so in terms of narrative & characters you'll be fine with playing that first.
The original is an all-time classic, and it utterly enchanted me at its release, but I suspect it's aged badly. It's probably worth playing with whatever mods people have come up with at some point just for historical value.
Laurentius
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Good thing I dont buy games for the story, a great story in a game is good, but I could careless, give me great gameplay first.
Ulysses 31
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Didn't Jim Sterling mention somewhere the game was shortened for a possible trilogy?
Dick Justice
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Jim Sterling mentioned in one of his videos that the game was having development troubles, and that the story was likely to be split into multiple games.
Lister
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Which is fine, assuming it's the result of ultra settings pushig the graphics envelope, and not ultra settings that need more optimization.
White Wolf
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correct, seems like 4x msaa and soft shadows are the offenders. they reportedly tank fps. as long as the other presets are decently optimized, i dont mind.
That's... interesting.
Maybe the smart thing to do is wait for that other game to come out, and go all in on Dishonored 2 this year. Then when DX5 comes out, play both MD and 5.
White Wolf
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sorry for being a grammar officer, but you COULDN'T care less.
more on topic, while i agree gameplay should have priority, i kinda also play deus ex for its rich worlds and stories. i hope the story still is fine.
Laurentius
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Shieeeeeeet.
It's frustrating how bad so many games are getting at endings; but it's understandable from a resource management point of view. A small fraction of players reach the end of any game. Like a few percent.
White Wolf
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not sure if it was sterling, but i do recall someone said something about "a mass effect-like trilogy"
It is. Because the cheesiness work.
EdibleExplosives
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Yeah, I forgot about that. Guess it could explain the abrupt ending.
DX1 is cheesy, yeah, but it also has an incredible philosophical side that blows away anything from Human Revolution.
Regginator
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Explain, but not excuse.
I'm hyped as all shit, but I would be very disappointed if the story is remotely as uninteresting as reviewers claim, even more so about its alleged abrupt ending. A few more days to experience it for myself.
So the story is meh, then? Good thing I don't care about game stories, then.
I guess they didn't make huge improvements to the gameplay overall, and it's more of a tightened sequel than a big stride. Shame, they had like five years. That being said, I still really like DX games, so this is still a no brainer for me.
I guess they didn't make huge improvements to the gameplay overall, and it's more of a tightened sequel than a big stride. Shame, they had like five years. That being said, I still really like DX games, so this is still a no brainer for me.
Turin Turambar
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Yep. First, it had an entertaining story. Not a quality story, but it was entertaining, that's important. HR? I can't remember it now, despite having played it several years more recently than DX1.
It has some eye rolling parts but as you say, the cheese factor makes it more endearing than stupid. The mechanical apartheid is serious and stupid.
Also, the key moments were well executed. Maybe it was because I was younger, but I didn't guess I was going to join what at the start were the 'terrorists'.
Robobandit
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ibn Saïd;214239480 said:
to be fair, contact hardening shadows are always expensive performance wise, as is msaa.
It looks like the "High" preset runs in line with peoples' expectations.
Ravensmash
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Honestly, as long as the world building is good and the journey itself is as satisfying as HR, then I'll probably be happy.
I don't recall being massively blown away by the main story in HR either, but it's the little things that I remember fondly.
Plus, if decent DLC is coming then at least we have more story to look forward to.
I don't recall being massively blown away by the main story in HR either, but it's the little things that I remember fondly.
Plus, if decent DLC is coming then at least we have more story to look forward to.
Ulysses 31
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Let's hope the DLC will continue the story and won't be some gap filler like Missing Link. >.>
Lister
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Hell, polygon right out states instability and issues with the console versions of the game, though this is obviously before the day one patch.
Laurentius
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Regginator
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Yeah, case in point. Let's hope the day one patch brings stability to all platforms!
Ravensmash
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I think it's because of how they're typically consumed.
A well thought out and richly written side quest will be played through to completion in a single sitting, the same can't be said for an entire main questline over 20+ hours.
For me, the main quest sometimes falls into the background a little bit - dependant on the game's structure.
I have to agree with you on that. After five years I'd expect more than just incremental upgrade, especially now that this is on a new generation of consoles. I'm excited to play this and I paid for it now that I know it's not a bust but would have been nice to be wowed by new "next-gen" features.
Laurentius
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FaintDeftone
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Man now I'm a little concerned over GTX 970 performance. I hope I don't regret getting this on PC.
GravityMan
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Positive scores for the most part, but lower than I expected. Seems like a common complaint is a lackluster main plot and an overall rushed product. I also think that several games over the past 5 years have raised the bar in the story and writing department. Mankind Divided apparently has not kept up (similar to Fallout 4), hence lower scores than Human Revolution. Standards are higher today.
That said, the strength of the Deus Ex franchise is its open-ended gameplay, and it seems like Mankind Divided does a good job there.
That said, the strength of the Deus Ex franchise is its open-ended gameplay, and it seems like Mankind Divided does a good job there.
Dick Justice
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White Wolf
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agreed, i hope the low, medium and high presets are much better optimised. you could argue that the ultra preset is for future hardware scaling.
it depends on the game, for example skyrim or witcher 3, i enjoyed their respective side quests more than the main story. but i think in a deus ex game, where a playthrough on average takes you around 25 hours, the main story should be the most memorable one.
yep that was it, thanks! in hindsight, and with what other reviewers are seeing, sterling seemed to make a lot of sense.
Laurentius
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What the fuck? Five years and only one hub? Is it the largest hub in history?
Laurentius
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Ulysses 31
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So how long is the game? Roughly as long as HR DC?
Regginator
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I've tried not to read too much, since I want to get in as fresh as possible, but there are at least two hubs that I know of though... P
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So it's like a tiny open world?
Retrofluxed
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Slightly off-topic, but I just received my key code from Greenman!
Laurentius
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